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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.14 20:29:00 -
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 Originally by: dastommy79
The Northern alliances will sell each other out for a price. Dont know if this New Old Northern coalition is better. We'll see. The core Iron/MM/Razor i am sure will protect each other till the death or strategicly retreat together. Pure/Hydra/MH is a different story. They might be seen as expendible. All this crap is speculation though just like most horrible posts on caod.
I'll give an unusually honest answer ;)
We won't sell it eachother out. I can promise you that RZR will never sell out anyone from RA/RAWR/Pure./Hydra/MH nor IRON. We haven't so far and we won't. The same goes for the other ones. In fact if one looses it's space we will also as already demonstrated tried to find new or give up existing space for that entity. Most of you have fundamentally misunderstood the NC.
Also, it's nice to paint us as carebears or blobbers or whatever. It's easier when you get spanked that way. It's true we do blob but when we don't we will fight individually and outnumbered just like everyone else. The only thing different with us is we've made a commitment to stick with eachother for better or worse and the reason we've done it is we think medium/small sized and equal alliances with different flavours should have a place to flourish in EVE. It's just a different flavour to GBC or RSF. To paint us as carebears though is completely wrong. There's a few of EVE's top ten FC's here and the general skill level on a few of the membership alliances are definitely quite high too. I'm not saying we're the best, but so far for a few years we've proven to be good enough to beat almost everyone ;)
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.14 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Endeva
you say that about smash and roadkill also:)
No. I never did. In fact I repeatedly thought and said that peoke's rants and irrational ways we shouldn't have them as blue. It's true they played a major part in removing M.Pire and those guys from Branch and as such it sucked to not help them. Then again we grew apart all the time and there was more and more tension all the time after that.
The peoke reason is probably the only way we'll part ways tbh. If one of the NC members changes leadership and that guy/gal doesn't want this to continue or becomes extremely onesided or abusive then it'll probably not work but that's not a risk with the current leadership in the NC imho.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.14 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
since i got ya here fred0, can i ask ya a question? How come old northern tennants like destiny, Core and a whole bunch i am forgeting were never rewarded for their efforts against the MC offensive. 80% of that losing fight was fought by renters/tennants but they never seemed to get anything out of their efforts. Also Sparta who fought hard alongside D2 in fountain, cloudring and dek were going to be reset as soon as the MC offensive was finished.
Most of those made their own fortunes. Sparta switched sides for example. Destiny allied with TRI when TRI blue too, then they sided with TRI when it came to blows. Core I actually dunno. :) FLA I suppose just moved on when the going got tough, not particularly educated on their story tbfh.
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Also your previous renters in Branch that were forced out by insurgancy, were they not given their space back after the war? My observation is that you use smaller alliances for your greater good (iron/razor/MM) and do not reward them for their efforts. Atleast from what i have seen.
Yes, we always have and still have smaller alliance owning some stations in Branch. We try to help them develop into better and more useful allies with very few promises. We help them and they help us. INSRG started out as such an alliance for example. It's relations that are dynamic since they are abit of an unknown quantity.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.17 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Fred0
Most of those made their own fortunes. Sparta switched sides for example. ....
Yeah, sure. AFTER they fought hard with D2, AFTER they got steamrolled and NO ONE from the whole northern crew, especially not Razor helped then. Only after then when they were left all alone they switched sides.
And where were Razor and the north to rescue Iron when they go rolled up? If I don't remember wrong Iron chose to pack up their stuff instead of fighting (like Sparta did) and moved to the drone regions.
Nice try to spin the history Fred0, but too obvious.
Don't tell **** here, Razor and the whole north is same as every other 0.0 power block: BoB, Goons+TCF, RA+friends. Same sh*t everywhere. Maybe you really think you are a bright shining hero, but that is just crap, there is no difference at all.
You are extremely ****ing wrong on when we got rolled by MC. In fact you have absolutely zero clue and you wouldn't unless you're Koth or Ovaron or maybe a few select others. You have a grunts eye perspective forged in gossiping by bruised ego's. Me, Ovaron, Koth and Drantis talked daily and did what we thought was smartest. It didn't work out, no bones about that but to construct it into something else would just be wrong. Sparta and FLA btw were under D2's jurisdiction in Deklein.
And your second point is all about perspectives I guess. Forum warriors like yourself especially has different pov's depending on agenda.
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