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Kay Brack Gallente Superior Unified Ruling Federation	Posted - 2008.07.17 11:03:00 - [61] Originally by: Patri Andari It has dawned on me that though this is a game, much of real life characteristics do come into play. Some people are miserable. They wallow in the grief and sorrow of those they overcome. Do not confuse this with childishness. It is, in fact, the nature of uncultivated man. You lost, but it was not the kind of loss that brought them joy. Move on and conquer your next goal. Complaining about their behavior might have the unintended result of giving them that joy they were refused. Nice post and pretty much on target Patri
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2008.07.17 15:44:00 - [62] at a guess it's because in eve it actually hurts to die. people losing stuff they've worked for tends to po them.
Woodwraith Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.07.18 03:23:00 - [63] Originally by: Dominious I lost my Raven to a couple of nanos fair and square. I didn't whine. Even thought it was a good fight. There are three lies in this quote. you opted to just roll over and die rather than fighting your way back to the gate or taking one of them down with you. this deserves hot flames, not respect.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.18 09:24:00 - [64] Originally by: Damarkin Originally by: Dominious "iios" There's your answer right there. I searched through the thread for this post before just answering the op with "Because iios is an *****" ------------ Originally by:** CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Krummi	Posted - 2008.07.18 10:10:00 - [65] I have been playing this game from the beginning and the maturity of the common player has fallen considerably over the years. One was able to do pvp and getting messages like "Good battle" or "Nicely done" afterwards even after losing. In the begining the average age for a EVE player was somewhere around 25-28 years but has obviously fallen to something like 20-21. And though people are 40 years old they can still act like 12 year olds. But I agree with many here that complaining about it in the forums does you no good and suiciding your ship to deny them a simple killmail, that obviously means the world to some people playing this game, and your loot, which you will lose anyway, is just not honorable. If you self destruct then you have no right in complaining about a few words. Just my opinion.
Requiescat HellCorp Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.18 11:00:00 - [66] pvp happened qqqqqqqqqqqqqq cora aren't immature btw ............pretty much /thread -+- let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town
Dominious New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.18 11:02:00 - [67] Originally by: Woodwraith Originally by: Dominious I lost my Raven to a couple of nanos fair and square. I didn't whine. Even thought it was a good fight. There are three lies in this quote. you opted to just roll over and die rather than fighting your way back to the gate or taking one of them down with you. this deserves hot flames, not respect. Kind sir, you can confirm with iiOs whether what I say is true or not. First of all, the fight was at a planet, not the gate. Second of all I launched drones and shot for as long as I could before I was eventually jammed. If your problem is with me self-destructing, I truly am sorry. But I consider it a legitimate tactic and part of the game. And third, I said nothing in local (or to anyone at all) so if you accuse me of whining, save it. Please refrain from calling me a liar before researching your facts.
Dominious New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.18 11:22:00 - [68] I'll reitirate that my issue isn't with PVP, but with the tantrums players throw nowadays even when they win . They lost nothing. I was about to type "GF" (for good fight) after I thought my pod was safe. But when I was greeted with his tantrum I got curious as to what may cause such feelings as I don't understand.
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.07.18 11:44:00 - [69] Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 18/07/2008 11:47:50 Originally by: Ferocious FeAr Deal with it, maybe next time take the death and deal with your inability to survive in a 0.0 environment. From the looks of it he handled the loss better than iiOs handled his 10km/s Machariel loss to a single Hydra Dominix. GJ iiOs, great pvp skills there. :) --- I smack just for myself.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.18 11:47:00 - [70] Originally by: Dominious I'll reitirate that my issue isn't with PVP, but with the tantrums players throw nowadays even when they win . They lost nothing. I was about to type "GF" (for good fight) after I thought my pod was safe. But when I was greeted with his tantrum I got curious as to what may cause such feelings as I don't understand. Well, self destructing is legitimate. However, please refrain from calling it a fight then. After self destructing there remains no evidence of a fight like a shiny killboard entry. It's comparable to those corps who do not post the losses on their killboards to look better. I would not smack you in local, but don't expect me or anybody else to give a 'gf' back to you...
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.18 11:57:00 - [71] Originally by: H Lecter Originally by: Dominious I'll reitirate that my issue isn't with PVP, but with the tantrums players throw nowadays even when they win . They lost nothing. I was about to type "GF" (for good fight) after I thought my pod was safe. But when I was greeted with his tantrum I got curious as to what may cause such feelings as I don't understand. Well, self destructing is legitimate. However, please refrain from calling it a fight then. After self destructing there remains no evidence of a fight like a shiny killboard entry. It's comparable to those corps who do not post the losses on their killboards to look better. I would not smack you in local, but don't expect me or anybody else to give a 'gf' back to you... thats your opinion. 2+ nanos against a single pve raven is hardly considered a fight for some as well. do you expect him to bend over and take it up the hole so you can input a "shiny new entry" on your killboard and call it pvp ? laughable
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.18 12:17:00 - [72] Originally by: Matrix Skye thats your opinion. 2+ nanos against a single pve raven is hardly considered a fight for some as well. do you expect him to bend over and take it up the hole so you can input a "shiny new entry" on your killboard and call it pvp ?laughable When you get caught, the ones catching you must have done something right and/or you must have done something wrong. Why not just stick to it, get blown up and STFU..? I would not call it a fair fight by any means, and I would not expect the OP to give a 'gf' comment in local. But blowing your ship up yourself may lead to certain negative reactions. The kb entry would show that he got abused, but at least it would exist... That being said, I lost ships to blobs myself. But I never ever even considered self destructing. I even upload my losses personally to my kb before it gets updated automatically just to see how negative the impact was. My kill/loss ratio would be quite awesome if I decided to happily commit suicide in each confrontation just because I think that 'It's not fair!'. My point was just that it's useless to whine about smacktalk when you upset someone by taking away his kill. The same applies to victim's smacktalk after getting blobbed. Just swallow it and go on...
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.07.18 12:26:00 - [73] Why the insults? The best reason, as I learned from the esteemed Homo Erectus in early Eve beta, is thus: Every human being has a finite amount of mental resources to divide among a handful of tasks. These tasks can be things like fighting, defending themselves, escaping, whatever. Getting people to hate you also consumes those mental resources, and while someone is insulting me back, or getting angry, or writing a GM petition... they aren't fighting, or defending, or fleeing. Their focus is not where it needs to be. They can make mistakes.
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:12:00 - [74] Edited by: Matrix Skye on 18/07/2008 13:14:45 Originally by: H Lecter My point was just that it's useless to whine about smacktalk when you upset someone by taking away his kill. The same applies to victim's smacktalk after getting blobbed. Just swallow it and go on... all i can tell you is BOO ****ing HOO! If i self destruct, live with it! sorry if you feel like i take your manhood away when i self destruct. NOT MY PROBLEM . Cry me a river elsewhere, cry baby.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:38:00 - [75] Originally by: Matrix Skye All I can say is BOO-****ing-HOO! If I self destruct, live with it. Sorry if you feel like I take your manhood away when I self destruct. NOT MY PROBLEM . Cry me a river elsewhere, cry baby. Just because you live your manhood destroying pixels through a video game killboard isn't MY problem
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.18 13:44:00 - [76] Oh man! That's brilliant, dood! That's L337! Man, that's original. Wow. I can't stop, what is you elite kiddies say these days? Ah yes, Rolling on the Floor Laughing. Awesome :) You got me good. You should be proud. Now go show your friends in school.
White Chasm Caldari Blood In Blood Out	Posted - 2008.07.18 17:42:00 - [77] Originally by: Itanis get out NO U _________________ Originally by: CCP Mitnal Although it's comforting to note that the majority of pirates will be remaining single for the foreseeable future.
Mik kyo D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.18 18:15:00 - [78] Posting in a stereotypical hydra thread.
Silva Krell	Posted - 2008.07.18 18:31:00 - [79] I know someone in a corp called 'die with honor' who always self destructs (if he gets the chance) when we pop his ships. It makes me laugh tbh. But really, why not just give people a km even if someone self destructs? This is only a game and if you lose take it like a man in a internet spaceship. ;)
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.18 18:41:00 - [80] Edited by: Matrix Skye on 18/07/2008 18:43:22 Originally by: Silva Krell I know someone in a corp called 'die with honor' who always self destructs (if he gets the chance) when we pop his ships. It makes me laugh tbh. But really, why not just give people a km even if someone self destructs? This is only a game and if you lose take it like a man in a internet spaceship. ;) So out of pitty give you the KM? Would you give me my un-sploded equipment back if I asked you nicely? Some of you really must be ******ed .
Lubimchik	Posted - 2008.07.18 19:00:00 - [81] Originally by: Dominious Tonight I was passing by through 0.0 on my Raven headed towards a Radar site I had just scanned down. Risky, I know. But hey, no guts no glory, right? :) Anyway, on the way I encounter Coracao Ardente (alliance Triumvirate). After evading them for a few seconds they catch up to me and pin me down. Ah well, "might as well go out on my terms" I think to myself and initiate self-destruct . BOOM! goes my ship, I warp my pod off. But then a pilot by the name of "iios" makes a comment on local: "***** cream". What gives? . They pinned me down. I lost my Raven to a couple of nanos fair and square. I didn't whine. Even thought it was a good fight. But because I self-destructed we resort to name-calling? I hear it all the time but just can't understand. They win but still resort to insults. Am I one of the few that finds this behavior a bit tasteless? The reason I ask this question is because it isn't the first time I'm insulted for not confronting a camp. And it isn't like I instigated or started it. Why the immature animosity? As someone who lives in 0.0 and pvps a shit ton I always hate finding a nice juicey ratting raven and it self desturcts however I never blame anyone but my self... I just think next time I need to bring more DPS. They are upset cause you denied them a KB post.. thats it really sense any alliance worth a salt gives its loot to the alliance and its not really personally kept. So their KB is one raven short.. they should have brought some more DPS or overloaded their guns! Blah screw em! You got the last laugh.. and a lighter wallet so it all worked out rather well.
Kusha'an Gallente RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.07.18 19:25:00 - [82] Originally by: H Lecter When you get caught, the ones catching you must have done something right and/or you must have done something wrong. Why not just stick to it, get blown up and STFU..? Rather self destruct than be captured and tortured! NEVAH SURRENDAH!!! ---- CCP, please implement a skill queue!
Atsuko Yamamoto Caldari The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.18 20:38:00 - [83] Originally by: Mik kyo Posting in a stereotypical hydra thread. It's not sterotypical until we get a TRI post in it. We're so symbiotic now...hugs ____________________________________ "MONKEY!!"-Gir
dust queen	Posted - 2008.07.18 21:36:00 - [84] Originally by: Dominious True. But I think the only 2 people that can come close to insulting my manhood (if that was in fact their intention) is my wife and my father, of which none have yet :). It's more curiosity as to what would make supposed "grown men" behave like this, if indeed they are adults. And I'm also beginning to see this behavior become more characteristic of Eve. judging by this quote, you appear to be playing a different game altogether. you must have left your e-peen on a different key ring when you logged on lemme try to say it in your language, spaceman EVE aint about pretty graphics and simulated combat between mutually respectful players. like everything else on the internet, it is pristine and beautiful in its dawning moments, but soon covered over in a thick layer of shit and garbage deposited from the river that flows around it. around these parts, your attack on your opponent's ego is as crucial as your attack on his ship. it can be well-planned and precisely executed, but it usually isn't. 99.999% of the time, it's a crude hackjob that betrays no finer qualities in the attacking party, and is typically parried in an equally clumsy fashion by a character of the same garish make. bottom line: par for the course. welcome to the internet.
Ancy Denaries Caldari Under Heavy Fire	Posted - 2008.07.19 09:48:00 - [85] Originally by: dust queen Originally by: Dominious True. But I think the only 2 people that can come close to insulting my manhood (if that was in fact their intention) is my wife and my father, of which none have yet :). It's more curiosity as to what would make supposed "grown men" behave like this, if indeed they are adults. And I'm also beginning to see this behavior become more characteristic of Eve. judging by this quote, you appear to be playing a different game altogether. you must have left your e-peen on a different key ring when you logged on lemme try to say it in your language, spaceman EVE aint about pretty graphics and simulated combat between mutually respectful players. like everything else on the internet, it is pristine and beautiful in its dawning moments, but soon covered over in a thick layer of shit and garbage deposited from the river that flows around it. around these parts, your attack on your opponent's ego is as crucial as your attack on his ship. it can be well-planned and precisely executed, but it usually isn't. 99.999% of the time, it's a crude hackjob that betrays no finer qualities in the attacking party, and is typically parried in an equally clumsy fashion by a character of the same garish make. bottom line: par for the course. welcome to the internet. Something about this post made me smile. I can't really say what it is...my English is still training to lvl 2 :(
AnonyTerrorNinja Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport	Posted - 2008.07.22 12:56:00 - [86] AnonyTerrorNinja personally approves of suiciding one's ship where you're definitely not getting out alive, but they're taking their sweet time killing you. Denies them a killmail + loot. Pirating Code of Honour, article 4, paragraph 13, item 3: Thou shalt not return home bearing less than a handfull of carebear tears. Method of acquisition at the hunter's own discretion. 0.0 PVPers can be carebears, too - or they wouldn't whine about a self-destruct. --- Incognito - Fierce - Deadly - IFD (Intergallactic Federation of Dummies) aka ATN Ikari Dimji > I mustn't run away... I MUSTN'T RUN AWAY... I MUSTN'T RUN AWA- ooh, skittles! :D
AnonyTerrorNinja Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:00:00 - [87] Originally by: Krummi I have been playing this game from the beginning and the maturity of the common player has fallen considerably over the years. One was able to do pvp and getting messages like "Good battle" or "Nicely done" afterwards even after losing. In the begining the average age for a EVE player was somewhere around 25-28 years but has obviously fallen to something like 20-21. And though people are 40 years old they can still act like 12 year olds. But I agree with many here that complaining about it in the forums does you no good and suiciding your ship to deny them a simple killmail, that obviously means the world to some people playing this game, and your loot, which you will lose anyway, is just not honorable. If you self destruct then you have no right in complaining about a few words. Just my opinion. This is the kind of mentality they are most comfortable with. Remember, you're on the internet. grin As for 'honourable', keep in mind, if they're going to take half a server cycle to kill him, he has every right to deny them their killmail and loot. What if they permajammed him? It's not exactly an honourable fight if you COMPLETELY deny him the ability to fight back (keep in mind not all ships have missile hardpoints to make use of something such as FOF missiles). If they want the killmail+loot that badly, they have two minutes to bring in the wtfbbqdpspwnmobile and shred him a new one before his self-destruct cycle completes. --- Incognito - Fierce - Deadly - IFD (Intergallactic Federation of Dummies) aka ATN Ikari Dimji > I mustn't run away... I MUSTN'T RUN AWAY... I MUSTN'T RUN AWA- ooh, skittles! :D
Boobiencia	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:01:00 - [88] i used to owe iios:( 2bad some ass got hold of him, good char
Lord Moridin Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:02:00 - [89] I think you desereved some insults. Self destruction is just low style. Keep your banner up next time and die with dignity.
Matrix Skye Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:09:00 - [90] Originally by: Lord Moridin I think you desereved some insults. Self destruction is just low style. Keep your banner up next time and die with dignity. please explain how using a game mechanic exactly as it is intended cause for ad hominem attacks. and if self destruct is "low style", how is a mob of nanos against a pve ship not considered low style to you?

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