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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 00:43:00 -
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I feel like you ripped me off now, I guess you seen that big amount of money and wanted to keep it, i don't blame you its a large amount of money, but I bought tickets for the full pot, I don't care how that pot is split it up the more prizes the merrier I just think all that pot should be used in round 28 like it originally said it would be.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 00:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Shevar
Originally by: sableye
I feel like you ripped me off now, I guess you seen that big amount of money and wanted to keep it, i don't blame you its a large amount of money, but I bought tickets for the full pot, I don't care how that pot is split it up the more prizes the merrier I just think all that pot should be used in round 28 like it originally said it would be.
They wouldnt want to keep it in corp or whatever, they want to use it to sponsor upcoming lotteries (for which you gotta buy seperate tickets, and they might start doing 15% adminstrative fees to the isk brought in from those lotteries through tiket sales). So its definatly not THAT ebil, the issue is that they shouldnt use the pot for upcoming lotteries because it was stated that it would be used for this lottery...
Yer I meant they are hopeing to generate large profits though off the back of the money, they are probably counting on taking in way more than 1.75 billion per lottery now (which is'nt hard to imagine given the pot) the excess each week will be effectivly thiers.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
@Geller
I'm sorry - Your math is so way of the mark, I'm not even going to try...
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the excess each week will be effectivly thiers
Huh?
That kinda makes it impossible to argue with you, if thats what you think. "We are here to scam you" seems to be the only thing on your mind.
BIG is making zero ISK on the lottery, we have actually *lost* ISK on it (by living up to our guarantee of a 50M ISK pot in the past)
We are doing this for the community - The *only* thing we get out of it, is some goodwill for actually bothering to run it.
And then I have to hear c.rap like that from you... At least go educate yourself a bit about the BIG Lottery before making accusations like that.
You are all moannig and *****ing about made up things.
Guess what - How about we simply pack up the lottery and let someone else run the damn thing.
Many have tried - No one have been able to stick with it.
They quickly find out the amount of work involved in it
2-3 weeks is the most I think I've seen other lotteries last.
Please realize you *have* a lottery in the first place.
</going to bed>
so say you make more than 1.75 billion each lottery just for example say you take in 4 billion again this time around, the next lottery will still be 1.75 billion pay out right? (which this money has already come from round 27) then say you get 4 billion in ticket sales that round , what happens to that 8 billion you made off the back of the round 27 money? now you might not make 4 billion each round but with large handouts you might.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
sableye : Take a really really wild guees at what would then happen.
I dare you to come up with something constructive.
You'll keep the money? the point is you have'nt stated what you will do with all the excess if there is any.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gaheris
Originally by: sableye
You'll keep the money? the point is you have'nt stated what you will do with all the excess if there is any.
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are you missing the point intentionally?
or did the fact TS stated in his original post that excess isk from each lottery would carry over into the next drawing, and so on until there was none left, completely elude your vision?
i really had no idea people could be this dim :(
but what happens if that does'nt happen and the excess keeps building each week, will they increase the prize value give out's? they have'nt stated this?
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Answer me this one question : How does this in any way change your chance of winning the first prize of 1 billion?
It does'nt but it affects my chance of winning a share of the full pot I paid my 1 million isk to win, I'm not that bothered anyway, just I don't think you should have taken the money then decided to change the rules, now if I want a share of the pot I originally paid to enter I have to pay to enter each lottery from here till the end of time...
anyway you'll still get my 5 million for the next lottery, as a billion is still a billion.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Geller
Originally by: Dobbick
Tornsoul,
I must applaud you for looking at the *sigh* BIG picture
I think you unintentionaly hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what they are doing - what is best for BIG. This isn't good for the community - its good for BIG Corp.
Care to back that up with nothing but statements?
Originally by: Geller
Originally by: Dobbick
Furthermore, since everyones 1 million isk gives them 7 chances to win something instead of just the 2 chances to win that were promised,
But it doesn't. It gives us 4 chances to win back about 45% of our money, and then somepeople who haven't paid into the pot get chances to win the other 55%. We initial tick buyers don't even get a chance at over half the money.
We are being scammed.
You as *one* ticket buyer would never even have gotten half the ISK - At most the first prize of 1 billion.
You are furthermore given 2 extra chances at winning 'something'.
I do not understand this obsessiveness with the full pot that no single person could get regardless of it's size.
Thus no single person is beeing cheated/scammed out of a potential larger prize.
So what is the problem. I do not get it.
Lets see here:
If we pay out one prize of 1 Billion, or
if we pay out two prizes of 1 Billion or
if we pay out three prizes of 1 billion or
if we pay out three 1 billion prizes and one 800M prize or..
The top prize is capped at 1 billion - You would *still* only be able to win 1 Billion ISK as top prize, regardless of the total sum of prizes paid out.
So what is it you are beeing cheated of that you would otherwise have gotten - I do not get it.
1 billion is max - No matter what.
You are even given 2 extra chances at winning, that you did not have before the rule changes.
the point is before the rule change we had a share of winning 3.5 billion now we have a share of winning 1.75 billion and our share will get worse as more tickets are bought since no further money will be added to the pot.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: sableye on 25/05/2004 18:50:49
To everyone who thinks the changes are great, please send me the sum of 1 million isk and I'll return to you 500,000 isk since you don't seem to mind someone else taking your isk.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.25 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: FraNtik
Edited by: FraNtik on 25/05/2004 13:27:31
Can you imagine what would happen if the pot is not splitted?
Some alt or noob player wins 4Billion isk (4,000,000,000 isk) in just one draw.
What then? Same people whinning about pot being splitted would whine about giving such *huge* amount to one *single* person 
And of course, the word SCAM would be written many times in this forum.
I've read this thread all the way through and I'm fairly certain I have'nt seen one complaint about the pot being splitted, just that its splitted over several rounds.
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