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Stork DK Minmatar The Wild Hunt Pure.	Posted - 2008.07.22 09:53:00 - [1] Right.. Seeing as the sticky threads are all locked (gj ccp ) i'm making a new one. Was gonna use the ranis as a solo ship and need some new ideas. Here's what i got so far. [Taranis, Solo] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Small Armor Repairer II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Nosferatu II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x2 If hunting ratters in 0.0 i think you could throw some resist rigs on to match the ratters damage. Ideas please. ___________ - Stork DK
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.22 10:07:00 - [2] There's basically 2 cookie cutters. [Taranis, Ion ranis] Overdrive Injector System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Remote Armor Repair System II /OFFLINE Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Warrior II x2 This is the neutron version: [Taranis, Neutron Ranis] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Nosferatu I /OFFLINE Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Hybrid Burst Aerator I Warrior II x2 The Ion version does more dps but it doesn't have the same range with null as the neutron has which is quite important in ceptor v ceptor combat.
mama guru Gallente Celestial Apocalypse The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.22 10:18:00 - [3] Edited by: mama guru on 22/07/2008 10:22:06 It's dificult to fit a good neutron setup, you should not give up on speed, dps or buffertank on any taranis setup unless you compensate with an equally valuble factor like tracking on superior range. As such Ions is your best option if you insist on fitting blasters, neutrons are simply to hard to fit and they require you to sacrifice either DPS, tank, or speed and tracking for no signifigant gains over Ions. If you want range you should concider 125mm II's 3x 125mm II MWD/Web/Disruptor (whatever your CPU allows) Overdrive II, magstab II, Damage Control II. 2x Hobgoblin II. Overall DPS is more important then tracking/speed since you should not release them till you have a ceptor Pinned down anyway, besides most ceptors either rely on a shield buffer or a structure buffer meaning EM/Thermal damage and the highest dps is what you should aim for. Those who say this setup lacks in damage needs to understand that the only Ceptor that can outdamage a Taranis these days with a setup that is not totally gimped is another Taranis. As such your only fear should be other taranises. EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Draeca The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.22 11:31:00 - [4] Edited by: Draeca on 22/07/2008 11:32:19 3x Light Neutron II, Offlined NOS or something between them MWD, Web, 24km point SAR II, DCU II, MAPC Two dronies. The best part is the reactions from the other inty pilots when they go pop in a matter of seconds.
Osric Wuscfrea Gallente PsyCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.07.22 11:53:00 - [5] Blasters put you inside web & neut range, both other which usually = podding. So you would have to be choosy about targets. A safer option is 3 x 125mmT2 and orbit at 16km. It will take time to pop target so you need to micro manage MWD usage as 3 rails & MWD will eat your cap. It really depends on who you are engaging and what they are flying, and obviously no-one can predict that... -- Rgds Mike Dead-Fish, Deep Sea Daddies...
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.22 12:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Osric Wuscfrea Blasters put you inside web & neut range, both other which usually = podding. So you would have to be choosy about targets. A safer option is 3 x 125mmT2 and orbit at 16km. It will take time to pop target so you need to micro manage MWD usage as 3 rails & MWD will eat your cap. It really depends on who you are engaging and what they are flying, and obviously no-one can predict that... Wtf does web range have to do with podding? --
Draeca The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Osric Wuscfrea A safer option is.. Who wants to fly safe you can fly a blasteranis! Suicidial mindset is what makes this little boat so friggin' fun to fly. Also, you're way too close to overheated webs @ 16km ___
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:41:00 - [8] Blasteranis are only good for Killing other ceptors - but its VERY good at it if flown well. I use mine for general tackling. Get fast lock and stuff, then bail once more people get a point on. Generally ill sit about 200km away and wait for a target to loose focus on me then warp in and melt some DPS. But if you dont like structure damage, don't bother with it. I've also had good results with the 125mm ranis, very nice rail platform. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Euriti There's basically 2 cookie cutters. [Taranis, Ion ranis] Overdrive Injector System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Remote Armor Repair System II /OFFLINE Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Warrior II x2 This is the neutron version: [Taranis, Neutron Ranis] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Nosferatu I /OFFLINE Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Hybrid Burst Aerator I Warrior II x2 The Ion version does more dps but it doesn't have the same range with null as the neutron has which is quite important in ceptor v ceptor combat. This is pretty much it. I personally prefer the Ion variety, I use Hobgoblin II's instead of Warrior II's and I don't bother rigging it because I lose one every few days. The neutron version I usually see people flying doesnt have an OD2 like shown here but instead a magstab2. Otherwise these are your best blaster fits. If you want to fit rails: 3x 125mm Railgun II's/Prototype Rails (depending on your fitting skills) w/ Faction Iridium or some other long range hybrid ammo 1x MWD 1x Disruptor II 1x Small Cap Injector 1x MagStab II 1x OD II 1x Nanofiber II 2x Warrior II or Hobgoblin II Originally by: Maeltstome Blasteranis are only good for Killing other ceptors Go sit in the corner, think about what you have said and come back when you aren't going to say something so ******edly wrong. ----- http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.07.22 15:31:00 - [10] Originally by: Osric Wuscfrea Blasters put you inside web & neut range, both other which usually = podding. So you would have to be choosy about targets. A safer option is 3 x 125mmT2 and orbit at 16km. It will take time to pop target so you need to micro manage MWD usage as 3 rails & MWD will eat your cap. A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Osric Wuscfrea Blasters put you inside web & neut range, both other which usually = podding. So you would have to be choosy about targets. A safer option is 3 x 125mmT2 and orbit at 16km. It will take time to pop target so you need to micro manage MWD usage as 3 rails & MWD will eat your cap. A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. And a killboard search revails exactly how fail your opinion ois given your terrible PVP record and lack of flying like a taranis... ever. Rail-Ranis is very hard to fly, but works well. Blasteranis is a bit more straightforward if you can overheat. Don't believe everything you read on the forums about how a ship should be fitted, 9/10 experience is better. I fly my huginn completely differently that the forums tell me too, but it's still effective for my play style. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Ivy Lynneleo	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:39:00 - [12] Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 22/07/2008 16:42:25 Originally by: Maeltstome And a killboard search revails exactly how fail your opinion ois given your terrible PVP record and lack of flying like a taranis... ever. Well, my own search (since you suggested it) gave this: Spectre3353 I think he's a pretty experienced pilot and his Taranis has taken down cruisers solo. So stop flaming people and show us your own stats before criticizing people.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.22 16:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Ivy Lynneleo Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 22/07/2008 16:42:25 Originally by: Maeltstome And a killboard search revails exactly how fail your opinion ois given your terrible PVP record and lack of flying like a taranis... ever. Well, my own search (since you suggested it) gave this: Spectre3353 I think he's a pretty experienced pilot and his Taranis has taken down cruisers solo. So stop flaming people and show us your own stats before criticizing people. Burnnn... lol --
mama guru Gallente Celestial Apocalypse The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Osric Wuscfrea Blasters put you inside web & neut range, both other which usually = podding. So you would have to be choosy about targets. A safer option is 3 x 125mmT2 and orbit at 16km. It will take time to pop target so you need to micro manage MWD usage as 3 rails & MWD will eat your cap. A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. And a killboard search revails exactly how fail your opinion ois given your terrible PVP record and lack of flying like a taranis... ever. Rail-Ranis is very hard to fly, but works well. Blasteranis is a bit more straightforward if you can overheat. Don't believe everything you read on the forums about how a ship should be fitted, 9/10 experience is better. I fly my huginn completely differently that the forums tell me too, but it's still effective for my play style. The Rail taranis is exceptionally easy to fly in comparison to other setups. MWD,point+ web blablabla, by that time you're struggling to stay within 2km in your blaster setup. While a rail taranis is well into the targets armor. The only ceptor that is easier to pilot is the crow. EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:03:00 - [15] Originally by: Ivy Lynneleo Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 22/07/2008 16:42:25 Originally by: Maeltstome And a killboard search revails exactly how fail your opinion ois given your terrible PVP record and lack of flying like a taranis... ever. Well, my own search (since you suggested it) gave this: Spectre3353 I think he's a pretty experienced pilot and his Taranis has taken down cruisers solo. So stop flaming people and show us your own stats before criticizing people. I almost stood corrected tehre, realising he might be an alt. Then i realised the solo cruiser kill was an osprey with a mix of small and light guns, and a civilian shield booster. Other than that it's all T1 frig ganks in losec. please. I ahvent used a KB in ages (check other people for my stats if they post losses/kills) - but here's the last time i flew a rail ranis in a non-suicidal fight, You may also notice the punisher i flew, and that i'm possibly a decent frig pilot. 3on1 Zomg, i can solo a cruiser!!!11!!one!! God knows what happened to the caracal's KM. Looks messed up. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:04:00 - [16] Originally by: mama guru The Rail taranis is exceptionally easy to fly in comparison to other setups. MWD,point+ web blablabla, by that time you're struggling to stay within 2km in your blaster setup. While a rail taranis is well into the targets armor. The only ceptor that is easier to pilot is the crow. Cept your are slow and chew through cap. And the ranis has a weaker PG than the other 2 turret ceptors, meaning fitting long range guns gimps it more. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
eXtas Atomic Battle Penguins	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:47:00 - [17] with lower skills the blaster ranis is beter, be it ions or neutrons aslong it got a dcu. but with close to maxed skills I would use a 125mm rail setup because then you dont need to get into 2-5km range because that can be really hard with close to 10km/s ceptors (at less then 5km aproch dont work properly and moves you at yber slow speed) but with this setup you can start doing damage from some range: 3x 125mm, offline mod gistii mwd, 20km point, named webber dcu, magstab, overdrive/tracking enhancer with am you get 8km range and still outdamage all ceptors but blaster ranis (keep them outside 5km) and you get the option to use lead that gives 15km ish optimal and still eat any ceptor alive. and dont use orbit on ceptors! use keep at range 7-13km. dont ever drop the webb! even if you dont plan to be in webb range you want to webb stuff back that gets you webbed. allso you can slow down a target if needed for other ppl to get on it. and train overloading! --------
Rennion	Posted - 2008.07.22 17:55:00 - [18] Been a while but something along the lines of: 3 * neutron mwd web point suitcase mapc magstab warriors lots of nanite paste Play around in eft, it does fit with some named mods I just cant remember which off the top of my head. People that don't like the blaster ranis lack the testicular fortitude to fly it properly and should train for a crow instead as it is more suited to a limp wristed playstyle. (just fly an ares if you in a gang, any type of ranis fit will get neuted off / popped by hac)
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.22 18:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Ivy Lynneleo Edited by: Ivy Lynneleo on 22/07/2008 16:42:25 Originally by: Maeltstome And a killboard search revails exactly how fail your opinion ois given your terrible PVP record and lack of flying like a taranis... ever. Well, my own search (since you suggested it) gave this: Spectre3353 I think he's a pretty experienced pilot and his Taranis has taken down cruisers solo. So stop flaming people and show us your own stats before criticizing people. I almost stood corrected tehre, realising he might be an alt. Then i realised the solo cruiser kill was an osprey with a mix of small and light guns, and a civilian shield booster. Other than that it's all T1 frig ganks in losec. please. I ahvent used a KB in ages (check other people for my stats if they post losses/kills) - but here's the last time i flew a rail ranis in a non-suicidal fight, You may also notice the punisher i flew, and that i'm possibly a decent frig pilot. 3on1 Zomg, i can solo a cruiser!!!11!!one!! God knows what happened to the caracal's KM. Looks messed up. I'm not really sure how I got dragged into this whole ****ed discussion. The quote that originally started this was NOT said by me, but by Osric Wuscfrea. You guys need to go back and follow the thread and who said what. And to the guy who is insulting my Taranis kills, I can't choose who shows up on my doorstep :) I attack almost everything I see regardless of whether or not they are flying a t1 frigate or a battlecruiser: Originally by:** Artemis Rose Originally by: Osric Wuscfrea Blasters put you inside web & neut range, both other which usually = podding. So you would have to be choosy about targets. A safer option is 3 x 125mmT2 and orbit at 16km. It will take time to pop target so you need to micro manage MWD usage as 3 rails & MWD will eat your cap. A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. ----- http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
mama guru Gallente Celestial Apocalypse The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.22 18:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: mama guru The Rail taranis is exceptionally easy to fly in comparison to other setups. MWD,point+ web blablabla, by that time you're struggling to stay within 2km in your blaster setup. While a rail taranis is well into the targets armor. The only ceptor that is easier to pilot is the crow. Cept your are slow and chew through cap. And the ranis has a weaker PG than the other 2 turret ceptors, meaning fitting long range guns gimps it more. 1: We are talking antimatter ammo usage within webrange, the rail taranis is designed to be able to take out any other ceptortype with little or no difficulty. I've yet to loose a duel in that ship with a rail fitting. 2: I'll have the same cap/speed as any blaster taranis so whats the difference. Secondly, 125mm II's take up 0.9 more powergrid per gun compared to ions(AWU V). 3: The point of fitting 125mm II's is to gain enough range to be able to do 150ish DPS anywhere within webbing range, not just 2km. The result of that is that you end up finishing pretty much every inty fight you get conciderably faster, even if you loose 40 dps from swapping those ions to 125mm II's. EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
eXtas Atomic Battle Penguins	Posted - 2008.07.22 18:47:00 - [21] Originally by: mama guru Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: mama guru The Rail taranis is exceptionally easy to fly in comparison to other setups. MWD,point+ web blablabla, by that time you're struggling to stay within 2km in your blaster setup. While a rail taranis is well into the targets armor. The only ceptor that is easier to pilot is the crow. Cept your are slow and chew through cap. And the ranis has a weaker PG than the other 2 turret ceptors, meaning fitting long range guns gimps it more. 1: We are talking antimatter ammo usage within webrange, the rail taranis is designed to be able to take out any other ceptortype with little or no difficulty. I've yet to loose a duel in that ship with a rail fitting. 2: I'll have the same cap/speed as any blaster taranis so whats the difference. Secondly, 125mm II's take up 0.9 more powergrid per gun compared to ions(AWU V). 3: The point of fitting 125mm II's is to gain enough range to be able to do 150ish DPS anywhere within webbing range, not just 2km. The result of that is that you end up finishing pretty much every inty fight you get conciderably faster, even if you loose 40 dps from swapping those ions to 125mm II's. I agree with 1,2 and 3 :) --------
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.22 18:53:00 - [22] Originally by: mama guru Edited by: mama guru on 22/07/2008 18:48:03 Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: mama guru The Rail taranis is exceptionally easy to fly in comparison to other setups. MWD,point+ web blablabla, by that time you're struggling to stay within 2km in your blaster setup. While a rail taranis is well into the targets armor. The only ceptor that is easier to pilot is the crow. Cept your are slow and chew through cap. And the ranis has a weaker PG than the other 2 turret ceptors, meaning fitting long range guns gimps it more. 1: We are talking antimatter ammo usage within webrange, the rail taranis is designed to be able to take out any other ceptortype with little or no difficulty. I've yet to loose a duel in that ship with a rail fitting. 2: I'll have the same cap/speed as any blaster taranis so whats the difference. Secondly, 125mm II's take up 0.9 more powergrid per gun compared to ions(AWU V). 3: The point of fitting 125mm II's is to gain enough range to be able to do 150ish DPS anywhere within webbing range, not just 2km. The result of that is that you end up finishing pretty much every inty fight you get conciderably faster, even if you loose 40 dps from swapping those ions to 125mm II's. With that said the blasterranis is alot of fun to fly and a bit more challenging, which makes it more thrilling. But saying rails are pointless let alone worse is a testament to a lack of experience with the taranis. read up, i advocated the use of rails on a ranis ;) ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.07.22 19:01:00 - [23] Rail Tanaris isn't quite as good as a beam sader but pretty close. A beam crusader will rip this ship to shreds, but seeing as how most everyone loves to fit blasters I think I'll take my claw and enjoy outrunning and outgunning you. Highs: 125mm Rails II x3 with Spike (if you don't like the tracking on spike, use faction tungsten or iron or something) Drone Link Augmetor (hell why not, i suppose you could keep an offlined nos in there) Mids: MWD Scram Sensor Booster w/range script Lows: Whatever you want here, I prefer Nanofibre II x2 OD 5700 m/s with my skills, 5900 m/s all V with T2 modules, no rigs. Aux thrusters give 6500 m/s so I recommend rigging this ship. This was built more as an anti interceptor/frigate/AF ship, keep out of blaster/pulse/ac range and kill them without taking a scratch. Only weakness I see is against (duh) faster intys and a blaster taranis. Really anything that could hit you at 26 km out would be a problem, but you could push it to 30 and still kite those nasty HACs and cruisers. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.22 19:34:00 - [24] Edited by: Euriti on 22/07/2008 19:38:13 Originally by: Spectre3353 Originally by: Euriti There's basically 2 cookie cutters. [Taranis, Ion ranis] Overdrive Injector System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Remote Armor Repair System II /OFFLINE Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Warrior II x2 This is the neutron version: [Taranis, Neutron Ranis] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Nosferatu I /OFFLINE Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Hybrid Burst Aerator I Warrior II x2 The Ion version does more dps but it doesn't have the same range with null as the neutron has which is quite important in ceptor v ceptor combat. The neutron version I usually see people flying doesnt have an OD2 like shown here but instead a magstab2. Otherwise these are your best blaster fits. MAPC + DCU + Magstab 2 wouldn't fit even with best named point and x5/fleeting webs. Would fit with an IFFA but then I feel it's a bit too expensive.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.22 20:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Euriti MAPC + DCU + Magstab 2 wouldn't fit even with best named point and x5/fleeting webs. Would fit with an IFFA but then I feel it's a bit too expensive. Named MAPC? Named DC? I'm not sure exactly what the fit is but it would be pretty silly to fit Neutron's with no MagStab and a MAPC as the DPS is worse than Ion's with a MagStab and no MAPC. ----- http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
Tane Mahuta Slacker Industries	Posted - 2008.07.22 21:56:00 - [26] Edited by: Tane Mahuta on 22/07/2008 21:56:28 This is what I use: [Taranis, Blasteranis] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Nosferatu I /OFFLINE [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x2 244 dps and 3675 m/s with my skills, 255/3806 all level V. I use it primarily for solo/smalll gang work. Solo is obvious - get in close and hope they die first. Small gang often requires getting ditance once someone else gets a point then coming back in. For medium/larger gangs I prefer an Ares.
Dextrome	Posted - 2008.09.11 02:05:00 - [27] 3 x proto 125mm w/navy lead .4 short of fitting T2 gotta train awu 5 gist b mwd disruptor web OD II DC II Mag II poly x 2 6500 m/s with near max skill. Haven't flown it yet. Flying cheaper ones till i have more exp.
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.09.11 03:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Artemis Rose A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. Is this a challenge sir? A Rail fit Taranis wipes the floor with blaster fits (not the below fit). Originally by: Dextrome Haven't flown it yet. Flying cheaper ones till i have more exp. Don't. No DCU forfeits your rights to fit a MFS2, so go full speed. OD2x2, Nano2 MWD, whatever tackle gear 125mm2 x3 [cn iridium, antimatter, iron, spike] throw a collision and or burst rig on it if you want more dps. - FRIGANK
Artemis Rose Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.11 03:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal Originally by: Artemis Rose A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. Is this a challenge sir? A Rail fit Taranis wipes the floor with blaster fits (not the below fit). Compared to other long range ceptors, a rail taranis is still rather uninspiring. When you could be in a Pulse Crusader (or even a Crow), doing more damage, going faster and having better tracking (even with Scorch loaded), where exactly does a rail Taranis shine? Blasterfit it is an absolute DPS beast, but in its long range fit, you just get uninspiring results. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Johan Price	Posted - 2008.09.11 03:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal Originally by: Artemis Rose A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. Is this a challenge sir? A Rail fit Taranis wipes the floor with blaster fits (not the below fit). Compared to other long range ceptors, a rail taranis is still rather uninspiring. When you could be in a Pulse Crusader (or even a Crow), doing more damage, going faster and having better tracking (even with Scorch loaded), where exactly does a rail Taranis shine? Blasterfit it is an absolute DPS beast, but in its long range fit, you just get uninspiring results. I don't know why everybody thinks the rail ranis's damage is so pitiful. Sure it's not the 200+ of a blaster ranis but it's still a respectable 150+(1 magstab); second highest of any interceptor. Think of the rail ranis as similar to a pulse sader but with a web. Sure, it's a little slower but heat/cheap implants compensates for it more often than not. And unlike a sader which is pretty much dead if webbed by a blaster ranis, the rail ranis has a very good chance of surviving.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.09.11 04:06:00 - [31] Originally by: Johan Price Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal Originally by: Artemis Rose A rail taranis is made of one of the most pure sources of fail in the game. Is this a challenge sir? A Rail fit Taranis wipes the floor with blaster fits (not the below fit). Compared to other long range ceptors, a rail taranis is still rather uninspiring. When you could be in a Pulse Crusader (or even a Crow), doing more damage, going faster and having better tracking (even with Scorch loaded), where exactly does a rail Taranis shine? Blasterfit it is an absolute DPS beast, but in its long range fit, you just get uninspiring results. I don't know why everybody thinks the rail ranis's damage is so pitiful. Sure it's not the 200+ of a blaster ranis but it's still a respectable 150+(1 magstab); second highest of any interceptor. Think of the rail ranis as similar to a pulse sader but with a web. Sure, it's a little slower but heat/cheap implants compensates for it more often than not. And unlike a sader which is pretty much dead if webbed by a blaster ranis, the rail ranis has a very good chance of surviving. Meh, I'm not sure how viable it is to fit a railranis with a web. If you want to have any decent amount of speed/agility/cap stability like a longe range ceptor is supposed to have, you're going to have to fit a cap booster to keep the MWD running. There just isn't any space for cap power relays and the ship will run of cap very fast with the MWD going. What? You want to know my Railranis fit? Sure thing everyone!!!! 3x 125mm Prototype Railguns w/ Faction Ammo 1x Catalyzed Cold Gas MWD 1x Warp Disruptor 1x Small Cap Booster w/ 200's 1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer 1x Nanofiber 1x Overdrive 2x Warrior ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/ My Ransom Board: http://www.pcransomboard.com/
Johan Price	Posted - 2008.09.11 04:10:00 - [32] My fit is basically the same: Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Overdrive Injector System II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Warp Disruptor II 1MN MicroWarpdrive II 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Hobgoblin II x2 Either buy a cheap 1% cpu implant or drop the WD II for a named. You're right that the cap doesn't last too long, only 1min 13s with my skills but either I've killed what I've been fighting or I gtfo.
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.09.11 13:04:00 - [33] ^ that's how i fit mine, only with the addition of damage rigs. The ship can be flown the same way you would fly a blasteranis. The difference is that when you get tackled by something (inlcuding b.ranis), you are doing full damage at all range. If you're faster than said ship (ie:heat) you can dictate range and take minimal damage while still beating your opponent in the face. For ships that you have trouble webbing, iridium & iron will help in a pinch. In addition to that, you can get cheap damage/rof/hull hp implants and make everything even more awesome. - FRIGANK
AlphaM You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.09.11 14:20:00 - [34] Originally by: mama guru Edited by: mama guru on 22/07/2008 18:48:03 Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: mama guru The Rail taranis is exceptionally easy to fly in comparison to other setups. MWD,point+ web blablabla, by that time you're struggling to stay within 2km in your blaster setup. While a rail taranis is well into the targets armor. The only ceptor that is easier to pilot is the crow. Cept your are slow and chew through cap. And the ranis has a weaker PG than the other 2 turret ceptors, meaning fitting long range guns gimps it more. 1: We are talking antimatter ammo usage within webrange, the rail taranis is designed to be able to take out any other ceptortype with little or no difficulty. I've yet to loose a duel in that ship with a rail fitting. 2: I'll have the same cap/speed as any blaster taranis so whats the difference. Secondly, 125mm II's take up 0.9 more powergrid per gun compared to ions(AWU V). 3: The point of fitting 125mm II's is to gain enough range to be able to do 150ish DPS anywhere within webbing range, not just 2km. The result of that is that you end up finishing pretty much every inty fight you get conciderably faster, even if you loose 40 dps from swapping those ions to 125mm II's. With that said the blasterranis is alot of fun to fly and a bit more challenging, which makes it more thrilling. But saying rails are pointless let alone worse is a testament to a lack of experience with the taranis. 40dps?, more like 90dps, The blasteranis is the inty i wanna be flying when i come across another inty, In any other situation rail ranis makes more sense, ( well if your worried about surviving :) )
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.09.11 14:41:00 - [35] Originally by: AlphaM 40dps?, more like 90dps, The blasteranis is the inty i wanna be flying when i come across another inty Do yourself a favor and open up eft and put up a dps graph between a rail and blaster fit. Up until ~3km the rail fit always out damages blasters but any competent rail pilot will be able to dictate range once you're both webbed and keep well out of the 2km death sphere. I know some people are thinking neutrons+null are the way to go, but at 6/7km you're barely in range. With rails+antimatter you are still doing max damage. - FRIGANK
Dr Sheepbringer	Posted - 2008.09.11 15:35:00 - [36] IF the blastranis gets into range...you melt. Simply you just melt. If keep away from it's range it might get a lucky shot and you will go "OMG!! IT SCRATCHED 101.9 damage! DISTANCE!!!" and then you will kill it from range. Simple. If you don't pay attention to overview...and let a neut get close...and let it web you...doomed. been there, done that. Got out on structure with a tank BC. I've seen a few times when a 2-3 ranis were used in fleets and they were fitted for gank. They didn't get primaried and the damage they dealt (and with the speed the did it) was amazing. They literally ripped the fleets in half before everyone understood to primary the god damn taranis's! Then a dessie took out all of them :D
AlphaM You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.09.11 15:50:00 - [37] Edited by: AlphaM on 11/09/2008 15:53:21 Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal Originally by: AlphaM 40dps?, more like 90dps, The blasteranis is the inty i wanna be flying when i come across another inty Do yourself a favor and open up eft and put up a dps graph between a rail and blaster fit. Up until ~3km the rail fit always out damages blasters but any competent rail pilot will be able to dictate range once you're both webbed and keep well out of the 2km death sphere. I know some people are thinking neutrons+null are the way to go, but at 6/7km you're barely in range. With rails+antimatter you are still doing max damage. Do yourself a favor, open eve and jump into a ship, Conservativly ships will be doing 4-4.5kms, Still confident you can maintain that 3km zone? I hope you are, I rely on inty pilots confidence to give me my window of opertunity edited to add, not being confronational, sounds like that after i read it, rail ranis has its place, im just a blasterfreak
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.11 16:39:00 - [38] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer IF the blastranis gets into range...you melt. Simply you just melt. If keep away from it's range it might get a lucky shot and you will go "OMG!! IT SCRATCHED 101.9 damage! DISTANCE!!!" and then you will kill it from range. Simple. If you don't pay attention to overview...and let a neut get close...and let it web you...doomed. been there, done that. Got out on structure with a tank BC. I've seen a few times when a 2-3 ranis were used in fleets and they were fitted for gank. They didn't get primaried and the damage they dealt (and with the speed the did it) was amazing. They literally ripped the fleets in half before everyone understood to primary the god damn taranis's! Then a dessie took out all of them :D Mmmm, they can do nasty damage. Personally, I'm prone to ignoring primary calls (unless it's something paperthin with high DPS or a blackbird/scorp or something) when in a high-tracking solid range ship (like falloff rigged AC Hurricane) and murdering any ceptors which come close. If it's a blaster Taranis, it has the shittiest ratio of EHP / damage, always worth killing it. Takes like 5 seconds, and you remove 250 DPS pouring in. Lot of people don't realize it. Don't understand how any BC pilot (or competently fit cruiser) would have a issue with a neutron taranis coming close, though - MWD away, keep him webbed, and just murder it with a combination of guns +drones. Hard to speedtank with 5.5x sig size Then again, nearly killed a Hurricane in a Rifter because he didn't know that trick (he tried running away in low armour then figured out that when he's MWD-ing away he's melting me) Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2008.09.11 17:54:00 - [39] I will often fly a gank fit Taranis when I go picking a fight in LoSec belts. [Taranis, Thoranis] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Null S Light Ion Blaster II, Null S Light Ion Blaster II, Null S [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hobgoblin II x2 It flies just like a gank Thorax: MWD in, orbit tight with the MWD off, melt faces. The fitting is very tight CPU-wise (0.25 CPU left over), so the choice of named gear is important. It is paper thin so you have to pick your fights, but if you get the drop on someone in a belt you can easily melt a T1 cruiser. It's also slow for a 'ceptor (3.6km/s straight line) so any other 'ceptor or reasonably fast ship would murder this fit by dictating range or simply fly off, which is why picking your fights is so important. Missile ships also tend to give it problems as well, but I have taken down a few Caracals with this setup although I typically leave the fight in structure. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.09.11 18:21:00 - [40] Originally by: AlphaM Do yourself a favor, open eve and jump into a ship, Conservativly ships will be doing 4-4.5kms, Still confident you can maintain that 3km zone? I hope you are, I rely on inty pilots confidence to give me my window of opertunity edited to add, not being confronational, sounds like that after i read it, rail ranis has its place, im just a blasterfreak I have only lost 1 dps fit rail taranis to a blaster taranis, and I have killed numerous. I'm fairly confident in my ability that I can keep said target at bay. - FRIGANK
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Tri Optimum Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.09.12 05:30:00 - [41] Originally by: Spectre3353 Meh, I'm not sure hot viable it is to fit a railranis with a web. If you want to have any decent amount of speed/agility/cap stability like a longe range ceptor is supposed to have, you're going to have to fit a cap booster to keep the MWD running. tbh - a railranis is NOT a longrange ceptor. it's med range (8-13km) ... if i want to fly a longrange ship for gallente i'll take an ares. the only advantage your setup has is speed, considering that the taranis is one of the slower and more sluggish ceptors to begin with, i'd rather boost its strengths (damage/EHP) ... remember - a DC almost doubles your EHP. it shouldn't be flown like the glorified tackler that an ares is, but more like a blasteranis whose range is beefed up to make full use of webrange. ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
atrophocy Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.12 12:14:00 - [42] Rail ranis is ok. you can get 16k optimal + 6 falloff with iridium [good for yer cap], makes a fairly decent tackler and can duel other inties at medium range. As for the good old gank ranis, a double magstab ion setup will get you 240+ dps, wheras the neutrons are harder to fit [can really only squeeze on one magstab] and net 220ish dps, not to mention slower tracking. This is what i run for solo blaster ranis: Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Warp Prohibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Offline small remote rep Hobgoblin II x2
steveid Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.09.13 14:46:00 - [43] I fly the taranis pretty much exclusively and have done for over a year so take from that what you will. The only other guy in this thread that I know does is prometheous so i'd be inclined to listen to him also. How you fly will ofc always dictate your setup, but personally i fly solo in hostile space looking for ceptor kills and I have three setups: [Taranis, rail speed] Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II X 2 Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Cap Recharger II 125mm Railgun II X 3 Auxiliary Thrusters I X 2 Warrior II x2 [Taranis, pvp extender] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I X 2 Damage Control II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Light Ion Blaster II X 3 Prototype Cloaking Device I Auxiliary Thrusters I X 2 Hobgoblin II x2 [Taranis, cookie cutter] Small Armor Repairer II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Stasis Webifier II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Ion Blaster II X 3 Prototype Cloaking Device I Auxiliary Thrusters I X 2 Hobgoblin II x2 Out of the three I almost always fly the duel web ranis, and note that i dont normally fit disrupters. I've found for the most part your target expects to be scrammed and so the web is more effective. As with all ceptor fits heat is ESSENTIAL.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.09.13 15:48:00 - [44] Originally by: steveid I fly the taranis pretty much exclusively and have done for over a year so take from that what you will. The only other guy in this thread that I know does is prometheous so i'd be inclined to listen to him also. How you fly will ofc always dictate your setup, but personally i fly solo in hostile space looking for ceptor kills and I have three setups: [Taranis, rail speed] Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II X 2 Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Cap Recharger II 125mm Railgun II X 3 Auxiliary Thrusters I X 2 Warrior II x2 [Taranis, pvp extender] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I X 2 Damage Control II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Light Ion Blaster II X 3 Prototype Cloaking Device I Auxiliary Thrusters I X 2 Hobgoblin II x2 [Taranis, cookie cutter] Small Armor Repairer II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Stasis Webifier II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Ion Blaster II X 3 Prototype Cloaking Device I Auxiliary Thrusters I X 2 Hobgoblin II x2 Out of the three I almost always fly the duel web ranis, and note that i dont normally fit disrupters. I've found for the most part your target expects to be scrammed and so the web is more effective. As with all ceptor fits heat is ESSENTIAL. Very interesting fits. I'm not sure I really understand the use of fitting a SAR on a Taranis though. I can't imagine it would make much of a difference in a ceptor fight. I really like that shield tank idea... probably confuses the hell out of your opponents and probably leads to a nice tank between that and the damage controlled structure. ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/ My Ransom Board: http://www.pcransomboard.com/
steveid Viziam	Posted - 2008.09.20 22:36:00 - [45] right i've EFT'd around after hearing about the rail setup and I think I have one that I like .. fitting three up now to test for a few weeks. Mag Field Stab II Damage Control II Gistii B-Type Fleeting X 2 125mm Railgun II X 2 75mm Gatling Rail II offline mod Aux Thrusters I X 2 Hobgoblin II x2 Now i hate mixing guns and dont use mixed guns on any other ship but meh what can you do. Does around 175dps compared to 185 of my ion ranis and more importantly does that at a much greater range, still sticking with the double web even tho it does over 5km/s. Gonna give it a go and see what happens.
steveid Viziam	Posted - 2008.09.20 22:37:00 - [46] right i've EFT'd around after hearing about the rail setup and I think I have one that I like .. fitting three up now to test for a few weeks. Mag Field Stab II Damage Control II Gistii B-Type Fleeting X 2 125mm Railgun II X 2 75mm Gatling Rail II offline mod Aux Thrusters I X 2 Hobgoblin II x2 Now i hate mixing guns and dont use mixed guns on any other ship but meh what can you do. Does around 175dps compared to 185 of my ion ranis and more importantly does that at a much greater range, still sticking with the double web even tho it does over 5km/s. Gonna give it a go and see what happens.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.09.20 23:27:00 - [47] Originally by: steveid right i've EFT'd around after hearing about the rail setup and I think I have one that I like .. fitting three up now to test for a few weeks. Mag Field Stab II Damage Control II Gistii B-Type Fleeting X 2 125mm Railgun II X 2 75mm Gatling Rail II offline mod Aux Thrusters I X 2 Hobgoblin II x2 Now i hate mixing guns and dont use mixed guns on any other ship but meh what can you do. Does around 175dps compared to 185 of my ion ranis and more importantly does that at a much greater range, still sticking with the double web even tho it does over 5km/s. Gonna give it a go and see what happens. Honestly, that fit doesn't look so hot. 75mm rails have such a short range, even with perfect gunnery skills I can't see them being worth using as you can't hit for any amount of decent damage from outside of web range. You should find a way to squeeze on three 125mm rails. If you're fighting in a ranged ceptor, why waste a slot on the damage control? You could be using that slot to up your dps or improve your speed/agility on a ship where when you start getting hit, you flee, not tank. Lastly, "Fleeting X"? Do you mean the webs? Why would you fit a web (let alone two) on a ranged interceptor when fitting space is already so valuable? Not intending to be rude or put you down, just seems like a really ineffective fit :) ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/ My Ransom Board: http://www.pcransomboard.com/
steveid Viziam	Posted - 2008.09.20 23:54:00 - [48] its not a ranged fit at all, its meant to be up close and personal, hence the duel web. the reason I would chose to use rails over blasters in this case is simply the amount of damage you would do while getting into ion range would outway the extra damage ions do. Your hitting for full damage at 4.5km instead of 0.9km and only do 5 - 10% less damage than ions. I'm of the opinion that ranged combat in a cepto vs ceptor fight is a difficult thing to do in a ranis due to its comparatively sucky speed, better to pin them down and kill with superior damage imo.

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