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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.07.23 08:59:00 -
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First, this is not a troll post or any sort of embellishment of any type for my side.
I am just curious. I've been in and out recently and am wondering which side are starting to rise to the top.
Here's the problem (and this is sort of what concerns me) is that the true way "to win" I guess is to capture the systems, right? So I guess if that is the only evidence we can see ingame, that would be good enough for me.
But statistically speaking, who is kicking who's ass?
/me runs from flames and forum warfare specialists
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.07.23 08:59:00 -
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First, this is not a troll post or any sort of embellishment of any type for my side.
I am just curious. I've been in and out recently and am wondering which side are starting to rise to the top.
Here's the problem (and this is sort of what concerns me) is that the true way "to win" I guess is to capture the systems, right? So I guess if that is the only evidence we can see ingame, that would be good enough for me.
But statistically speaking, who is kicking who's ass?
/me runs from flames and forum warfare specialists
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:15:00 -
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On the plexing & capturing end of this discussion, Caldari are without a doubt in the lead. But if you only count kills, Gallente is way ahead. Some squids will say that their losses are much cheaper because we all fly T2 and they don't, but that's not the truth and not an issue. Pure kills, we win. Plexing, they win...
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:20:00 -
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 Originally by: CrayC
To put it another way, Gallente good at PvP, Caldari good at modified missions.
Who would have guessed. 
As for who is winning, since so far there is nothing to gain from FW, we have to choose a metric ourselves, and everyone will simply pick the one which favours them, so we can't really say.
But if I had to say, I'd say Gallente, not so much for performance in the war, more simply for being Gallente.
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El'Tar
Caldari
Monkey Madness.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:30:00 -
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galente good at pvp?? *******!!!!
nano***s all of em, no skil
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: El'Tar
galente good at pvp?? *******!!!!
nano***s all of em, no skil
I haven't seen any nano ships, in our fleets or the squids'.
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: El'Tar
galente good at pvp?? *******!!!!
nano***s all of em, no skil
The closest thing to a nano I've seen in our fleets, was plex-speedtankers. But since they are Interceptors, it's not really nano... 
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Jackie Fisher
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: CrayC
On the plexing & capturing end of this discussion, Caldari are without a doubt in the lead. But if you only count kills, Gallente is way ahead. Some squids will say that their losses are much cheaper because we all fly T2 and they don't, but that's not the truth and not an issue. Pure kills, we win. Plexing, they win...
So a bit similar to Russia vs Germany in WW2 then. Plexing FTW! 
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jackie Fisher
So a bit similar to Russia vs Germany in WW2 then.
What?
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GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente
Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: CrayC
Originally by: Jackie Fisher
So a bit similar to Russia vs Germany in WW2 then.
What?
my brain is confused as you are 
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Hesod Adee
Militants of Xen
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Hesod Adee on 23/07/2008 10:09:20
Yes, the Caldari are winning at plexing, and I don't see that changing any time soon because most Gallente don't seem to care about plexing.
I'm not aware of any Caldari raids into Gallente high sec. But I am aware of multiple Gallente raids into Jita.
For some reason the Caldari anchored a research POS in Villasen using a militia corp. I don't understand why they didn't create a non-militia industry corp to do that. I was part of the group that took it down.
So what impressive combat acts have the Caldari pulled off ?
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hesod Adee
I'm not aware of any Caldari raids into Gallente high sec.
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So what impressive combat acts have the Caldari pulled off ?
They do blob into Villore now and then, but that's all... |
GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente
Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:22:00 -
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gallente like the idea of open PVP so there taking full advantage of it, the cladari and there plexing as they earn much more doing missiong for what they are doing now except have more risk
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Pociomundo
Gallente
Endless Destruction
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: El'Tar
galente good at pvp?? *******!!!!
nano***s all of em, no skil
Says Garmon seen in his Fleet Issue Stabber zooming round shooting Caldari for the Minmatar :P
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Steve Celeste
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hesod Adee
For some reason the Caldari anchored a research POS in Villasen using a militia corp. I don't understand why they didn't create a non-militia industry corp to do that. I was part of the group that took it down.
Yes, that was ******ed.
And then asking people in militia to come out and defend "the militia pos", and getting ****ed off when people cba with pos warfare.
Like any of the profits from that pos will go into the militia, yea right...
Good to hear it got blown to pieces.
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MrChook
Heretic Research
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Pociomundo
Originally by: El'Tar
galente good at pvp?? *******!!!!
nano***s all of em, no skil
Says Garmon seen in his Fleet Issue Stabber zooming round shooting Caldari for the Minmatar :P
What's your point?
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:37:00 -
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Well, since there is no real effort from both sides to take systems (and rightly, as there are absolutely no rewards for doing so and it's most of the time utterly boring as only very few enemies actually come into your plex having a look), I'd say that noone is winning.
CCP will have to give out actual rewards for conquering systems or doing plexes AND will have to make the plexing aspect a bit more interesting.. every damn FW plex looks exactly the same.
Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 23/07/2008 11:16:11
But we're all having fun, and that's what counts.
Although, I think people are a bit too hung up on CCP handing them an objective. This is EVE, not WoW, come up with an objective yourselves. For instance, I know at least some people are quite interested in seeing certain popular Caldari lowsec systems flipped, rewards or no, because it is one of their main staging grounds. And I would hate to see certain Gallante systems flipped, because I used to live there.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:23:00 -
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To make it short: caldari win in game, gallente dominate on forums.
Gallentes kill lot's of caldari frigs and noobships, caldaris kill plenty of t2 or t2-fitted gallente ships, inflicting much more damge in isk.
Gallentes fight at wrong places, while caldaris conquer their systems:
so far it's 2:0 for caldaris, more gallente systems will fall to caldaris in near future.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:29:00 -
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To make it short: Gallente win in game, Caldari dominate on their inaccurate killboard.
Caldari kill lots of Gallente solos and noob gangs, Gallente kill Caldari fleets, inflicting much more damage in isk.
Caldari cap plexes, while Gallente actually get kills:
so far it's 2:0 for Gallente, more Caldari fleets will fall to the Gallente in near future.
Corrected spelling and content.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:30:00 -
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In the war against Gallente and Caldari, CCP wins, and both Caldari and Gallente lose.
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Stab Wounds
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
To make it short: caldari win in game, gallente dominate on forums.
Gallentes kill lot's of caldari frigs and noobships, caldaris kill plenty of t2 or t2-fitted gallente ships, inflicting much more damge in isk.
Gallentes fight at wrong places, while caldaris conquer their systems:
so far it's 2:0 for caldaris, more gallente systems will fall to caldaris in near future.
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fairimear
Gallente
S.A.S
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:48:00 -
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Caldari = Falcon *****s.
Makeing your npc hunters SS. |
stunna13
Caldari
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.23 12:08:00 -
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mini wins over both thats why i cross train FTW...
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Sweet Rosella
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Posted - 2008.07.23 12:09:00 -
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i would like to see caldri pilots help ammar in there space atm, amar are dying faster than flyies and its getting boaring down here
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Jones Bones
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.23 12:35:00 -
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LOL to the Caldari who said they only lose t1 frigs.
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Chinger
Caldari
Cold Fury Coalition
Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.23 12:46:00 -
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You are all wrong, for it is Chribba that is the real winner. The more ships destroyed, the higher the price of tritanium goes. Also, what type of sushi should I get?
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.07.23 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
I haven't seen any nano ships, in our fleets or the squids'.
I did:
http://www.gallente.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21158
Not that it matters anywhere. 
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
To make it short: caldari win in game, gallente dominate on forums.
Gallentes kill lot's of caldari frigs and noobships, caldaris kill plenty of t2 or t2-fitted gallente ships, inflicting much more damge in isk.
Gallentes fight at wrong places, while caldaris conquer their systems:
so far it's 2:0 for caldaris, more gallente systems will fall to caldaris in near future.
Gallente are winning in forums because we are not whining in forums.
Caldari are losing in game as evidenced by their whining in forums.
Therefor... Gallente are winning in forums and in game. Works for me!
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kessah
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.23 14:20:00 -
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I couldnt care less who is winning or better. Being blobbed by one side is more... desirable than both, besides gallente pilots drop better loot. Caldari run nubbin ships mostly.
Afaik, the Gallente are made up for the pvp the caldari are in high sec too worried to hit further than Tama.
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