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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.18 18:51:00 -
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I'm ok with 'untraining' skills at the same rate you train them at. If someone wants to spend time untraining instead of training, have at it. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2012.03.18 18:52:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:Quote:No. I have devoted myself to making mistakes that teach me how to be a better pilot. I reserve the right to face the consequences of my own actions. You have no right to take away said consequences. Yea, except you are being forced to live with the consequences of mistakes that CCP makes for you. Freedom of choosing your own choices is daunting isn't it. This is like asking to pick and choose what internal organs you have when you're born you know. Those skills are there initially to make your starting character able to make money in a variety of ways.
I will have to file a petition to Jehovah asking him why the frakk did he screw up my ability to resist all diseases and my ability to live forever and why he was such a douche to the people of this planet and then expects us to believe he is all caring.
Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:13:00 -
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I can't belive that somebody is asking this for real. |
stoicfaux
787
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:27:00 -
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Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:I can't belive that somebody is asking this for real.
He's trolling. The game is now to use pithy retorts, extreme/creative analogies, and for the OP to present logic that you know is wrong but somehow just can't formulate a counter-argument for.
Or we can go back to arguing rehashing the arguments about whether the removal of the learning skills with its attendant across the board increase in attributes was a good idea or not. I, for one, have no desire to continue arguing about learning skills.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5668
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:28:00 -
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Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:You seem to be very keen on trying to insist that psychological disorders are the reason you can not come up with an argument that has any common sense, logic or content. No, you provided that reason pretty much from the outset. I'm simply suggesting that game mechanics aren't the right way to go.
You are asking for something that makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. You're talking about consequences and mistakes that don't exist. Whether it's a disorder or not is for a professional to decide, but I can tell you that you're trying to solve a problem that does not exist except in your head. If it's just a matter of having a few strewn-about lvl II:s or lvl III:s, get them up to IV or V or whatever makes things right in your world to make it not GÇ£look awfulGÇ¥.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
769
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:37:00 -
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Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:Also it would be nice to remove noob mistakes that simply look awful on your skillsheet!
Might I suggest the following link:
http://www.camh.net/About_Addiction_Mental_Health/Mental_Health_Information/OCD/ocd_medications.html
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
13
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:42:00 -
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I know right? What does he expect?
"Well you're an extremely well rounded pvp character who has a solid killboard and can t2 fit t3s so I think you're right for us --- wait a second you have mining level 2 you noob! Get out of my sight carebear!"  |
Macrathleachlainn Lucian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:45:00 -
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Quote:You are asking for something that makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.
To you.
Quote:You're talking about consequences and mistakes that don't exist.
In your head.
Quote:Whether it's a disorder or not is for a professional to decide, but I can tell you that you're trying to solve a problem that does not exist except in your head.
In your mind.
Quote:If it's just a matter of having a few strewn-about lvl II:s or lvl III:s, get them up to IV or V or whatever makes things right in your world to make it not GÇ£look awfulGÇ¥.
In your perception.
Are you seriously that daft?
A simple destroy erase improve function that would take hardly any effort whatsoever that in the opinion of a plenty amount of people would neaten up the way a skillsheet looks.
Just train your obsessive compulsive disorder and get your cognitive behavioural therapy up to IV or V or whatever makes things right in your world to make it look "not awful.
Right back in your face you feeble-minded idiot.
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Macrathleachlainn Lucian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:49:00 -
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You know what CCP,
Just go ahead and toss this thread in your ideas and features cage where none of these idiots feel compelled to add their lowlife opinions without any content to something your most likely not going to change anyway. |
Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
769
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:50:00 -
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Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:Right back in your face you feeble-minded idiot. Making friends and influencing people.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5668
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:54:00 -
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Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:To you. In your head. In your mind. In your perception. That's the whole problem, isn't it: it's all in your head. So why not solve the problem there instead rather than burden the GMs with more frivolous petitions from random batches of butterfingered users?
Quote:A simple destroy erase improve function that would take hardly any effort whatsoever that in the opinion of a plenty amount of people would neaten up the way a skillsheet looks. Messing with the skill system and making it safe and balanced (and exploit free) is a fair amount of effort for something as pointless as a GÇ£neatGÇ¥ skill sheet. Why do you even need that? It makes zero difference to how your character works. This is the part you still fail to explain. Moreover, if you absolutely need a GÇ£neatGÇ¥ skill sheet to calm your nerves, there is already a method for that as previously indicated. What's wrong with that one?
Quote:Right back in your face you feeble-minded idiot. Yeah, you see, that doesn't quite work because I'm not the one asking the devs to waste time on something that doesn't serve any kind of purpose other than to assuage what so far can only be described as some deep-seated repulsion to uneven blocks of pixels.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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stoicfaux
787
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Posted - 2012.03.18 20:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:
A simple destroy erase improve function that would take hardly any effort whatsoever that in the opinion of a plenty amount of people would neaten up the way a skillsheet looks.
Messing with the skill system and making it safe and balanced (and exploit free) is a fair amount of effort for something as pointless as a GÇ£neatGÇ¥ skill sheet. Why do you even need that? It makes zero difference to how your character works.
Slippery Slope. If Eve has the ability to cleanly and safely remove skills, then Eve has the ability to do "skill respecs."
So is the OP just OCD (in the conversational, non-clinical sense) or is the OP angling for something bigger?
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5668
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Posted - 2012.03.18 20:10:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Slippery Slope. If Eve has the ability to cleanly and safely remove skills, then Eve has the ability to do "skill respecs." Not just that, but even on its own, it has issues.
Train every skill you need for the equipment you use, then ditch all the GÇ£lead-upGÇ¥ prereqs that aren't actually used or required for the equipment itself (eg. all those small / medium turret skills for large turrets). Bam! Cheap upper-tier T2-capable clone at a quarter the cost.
Quote:So is the OP just OCD (in the conversational, non-clinical sense) or is the OP angling for something bigger? Doesn't particularly matter.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Macrathleachlainn Lucian
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.03.18 20:23:00 -
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Quote:Not just that, but even on its own, it has issues.
Train every skill you need for the equipment you use, then ditch all the GÇ£lead-upGÇ¥ prereqs that aren't actually used or required for the equipment itself (eg. all those small / medium turret skills for large turrets). Bam! Cheap upper-tier T2-capable clone at a quarter the cost.
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Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.03.18 21:04:00 -
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Macrathleachlainn Lucian wrote:This is where EVE is the beautiful platform of planning ahead. If one day I needed a certain skill I would purchase it one day and inject it one day.
Thereby incurring precisely the disadvantage that Fredfredbug4 mentioned.  |
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