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Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:29:00 - [1] Edited by: Denton Juutan on 24/07/2008 06:31:35 The venture into an IPO is often hard to judge. Good or bad? Legit or False? Will I make money? These are questions you will never have to ask yourself once you buy into Bruce's Crossing. I have been doing business with Intrepid Crossing and Bruce for over 2 years now. I am blue flagged with each. I do not play sides. I merely supply their 0.0 stations with material, ranging from t2 mods to skills, and from ships to rigs. Times have never been better for money, but there is not enough time. Business is booming, and I have gathered a select few pilots to help me set up a cynosural field system so that we can carry vast amounts of equipment in a matter of moments. We have determined, (mainly Extreme-he is a genius at crunching numbers) that we must raise 35 billion isk to guarantee transportation of all the material. The profits pulled from buying this equipment in Empire and reselling it in 0.0 is needless to say flabbergasting. There are 10,000 shares that will sell for 3.5m a piece. To make this as fair as possible, we will NOT wait for all shares to be bought before we pay dividends. Once you buy shares, you will begin to recieve isk. There are two types of investments, the first being 45% of your investment back every second week, and the other being 20% back every week. When you want to purchase your shares, just specify the type: E: for 20% every week or EO: for 45% every other week Your selection will be logged and saved. Like I said business is booming, and profit is high. You can expect to be 80% above your initial investment within two months if you select EO. Thank you and good luck in all your future endeavors!
DirtyAmarr Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:34:00 - [2] 2b sent in game already.
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:41:00 - [3] Huh, what is this? You have been in the corp for 1 day. You don't even prove you prove you even do, what you say you do. I doubt anybody would invest in this, unless you provide more information.
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:42:00 - [4] A bought character I've never heard of offering no security or references and asking for 35B. Nice and scrungy but just in case I'll reserve 10B pending audit or Ricdic investing, whichever happens first. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Ricdics Corporate Placement Holding	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:43:00 - [5] lol i wouldnt touch this offering. 2 minutes of posting for 35b? That means a scam would earn him 583m per second
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Kwint Sommer A bought character I've never heard of offering no security or references and asking for 35B. Nice and scrungy but just in case I'll reserve 10B pending audit or Ricdic investing, whichever happens first. You seem to assume at least one of them will happen. For some reason, I doubt that!
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:47:00 - [7] Originally by: DirtyAmarr 2b sent in game already. Wow, 5 minutes after the first post someone has already sent 2 billion. This must be legit!!!!! What a weak-ass attempt to scam. Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 Originally by: DirtyAmarr 2b sent in game already. Wow, 5 minutes after the first post someone has already sent 2 billion. This must be legit!!!!! What a weak-ass attempt to scam. Damn, someone actually dared to make that point.
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:51:00 - [9] Originally by: LaVista Vista Damn, someone actually dared to make that point. Yeah, I know I am putting my reputation on the line with this one and it could come back to bite me in the ass, but I am calling scam..... that's my final answer. Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:54:00 - [10] Amarr had already bought before it went public, and Dark Shikari is another buddy of mine, he will do an audit after 1 month.
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:56:00 - [11] Originally by: Denton Juutan Amarr had already bought before it went public, and Dark Shikari is another buddy of mine, he will do an audit after 1 month. Wow, that one is new. "Dark Shikari is my buddy" Unless DS actually posts in the thread, I don't trust it. An audit is not worth anything, 1 month after you ran with the money.
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:59:00 - [12] Run away... If you buy, wait a week or wait 2 months, and see that it is legit when you start making iskies.
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 06:59:00 - [13] Honestly, I could care less who you say is going to invest or who thinks your offering is a good one. Your proposal is crap and you spent 5 minutes on it. Also, your math is wrong. Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
Ricdics Corporate Placement Holding	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Denton Juutan Dark Shikari is another buddy of mine, he will do an audit after 1 month. Fantastic, I have contacted DS by MSN and will hear back from him shortly.
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:01:00 - [15] 45% every two weeks is not wrong
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:02:00 - [16] I just wanna do some honest work and now the CSM are harassing me!
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:07:00 - [17] Ok, let me try and ask a simple question here. If you get the full 35billion investment, and every investor chooses option E: 20% every week, then you have to make 7 billion every week to pay investors. That works out to 28 billion every month. Now if every investor chooses option EO: 45% ever other week, then you have to make about 7.8 billion every week, or about 31.5 billion a month. So in short, your math is wrong somewhere or I am misunderstanding your proposal(which could be the case as it is crap anyways). Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:25:00 - [18] Originally by: Ricdics Originally by: Denton Juutan Dark Shikari is another buddy of mine, he will do an audit after 1 month. Fantastic, I have contacted DS by MSN and will hear back from him shortly. This should be interesting. Oh, LV, I hope you know that was sarcasm. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Oh, LV, I hope you know that was sarcasm. I just made the obvious to everybody, so that nobody saw it as a "stamp of approval".
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:31:00 - [20] First of all, don't deal in absolutes! just say you chose EO and invest 35m (10 shares since u don't know math) 45% in 2 weeks gives you 15.75m next two weeks u get another 15.75m so in 1 month you have 90% back at 31.5 then two more weeks another 15.75m and once more to round out 2 months with another 15.75m So you have 63m total in 2 months. You started with 35m. That is 180% increase.
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Denton Juutan First of all, don't deal in absolutes! just say you chose EO and invest 35m (10 shares since u don't know math) 45% in 2 weeks gives you 15.75m next two weeks u get another 15.75m so in 1 month you have 90% back at 31.5 then two more weeks another 15.75m and once more to round out 2 months with another 15.75m So you have 63m total in 2 months. You started with 35m. That is 180% increase. My figures are in BILLIONS. Like as if I decided to buyout your entire investment offering for instance. My example was to show how much you have to make to pay back all the investors, not 1 investor that put in 35 million. Now, please try and answer my question again this time. Maybe provide some information as to how you plan on making 180% of 35 BILLION in 2 months. And that doesnt even include your share of the profits. Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:42:00 - [22] I am not going to give you another math class, and if you did buyout LOL then you shouldn't be worried about my operations in .0 because you have made your way in this game ask DS, I'm sure you are waiting for him to reply.
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:43:00 - [23] Something else that's bothered me. You say you've been doing business with BRUCE for over 2 years now, but according to the in-game information BRUCE has not been around for 2 years let alone over 2 years. Is this simply bugged information? Intrepid crossing is also less than 2 years old. Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:45:00 - [24] not 100% accurate in my original post, sry for that. members in those groups, not the whole of the two themselves.
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:48:00 - [25] Originally by: Denton Juutan I am not going to give you another math class, and if you did buyout LOL then you shouldn't be worried about my operations in .0 because you have made your way in this game ask DS, I'm sure you are waiting for him to reply. I don't know about AC but I wrote this off about 30 seconds after it was posted. I'm just sticking around on the vague hope that this thread will be redeemed by funny quotes from DS when he sees some freshly-bought alt trying to pull him into this terribly unoriginal and poorly planned scam. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Ambo Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Denton Juutan Times have never been better for money, but there is not enough time. Then how is having our money going to help? Quote: We have determined, (mainly Extreme-he is a genius at crunching numbers) that we must raise 35 billion isk to guarantee transportation of all the material. Why do you need 35 bil isk for transportation? Give me a breakdown of what it's actually for. Quote: There are two types of investments, the first being 45% of your investment back every second week, and the other being 20% back every week. So returns are fixed and you are able to make up to almost 16 bil isk every two weeks from 35 bil... right. What do you get out of this exactly? Conclusion: The only offering that's come through MD in the past year that I'm totally 100% happy to publicly call SCAM. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Denton Juutan I am not going to give you another math class, and if you did buyout LOL then you shouldn't be worried about my operations in .0 because you have made your way in this game ask DS, I'm sure you are waiting for him to reply. Thanks for missing my point yet again. You have not "given a math class" on how you are going to achieve such high returns. If every investor chooses option EO, then you are going to pay them 90% dividends on 35 BILLION isk (thats 31.5 billion in dividends for 1 month). And btw, I could buyout your entire offering right now so please don't think you know anything about me. I am not waiting on DS to reply as it isn't needed. You haven't provided any projections so I have to assume that whatever calculations you have made are wrong based on how much you are going to pay in dividends. And since you won't answer to that, I can only go on my assumptions. Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
Denton Juutan	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:52:00 - [28] Like I said earlier, try it and see. I will pay, that is all.
Amarr Citizen 155 Alternative Methods Research Group	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Kwint Sommer I don't know about AC but I wrote this off about 30 seconds after it was posted. I'm just sticking around on the vague hope that this thread will be redeemed by funny quotes from DS when he sees some freshly-bought alt trying to pull him into this terribly unoriginal and poorly planned scam. I did as well, but I like to watch them flop around on the dock while they suffocate. Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.07.24 07:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Denton Juutan You can expect to be 80% above your initial investment within two months Assuming reinvestment, that's the equivalent of 3,301% growth on your ISK annually. Without reinvestment it's 480% growth annually. Ignoring all the other scrungy things here, that is reason enough to call this a scam. Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals

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