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StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:15:00 - [1] wasnt shiva like meant to be out in may time? seems we are coming to the end of may to me STAN FACTA NON VERBA
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:18:00 - [2] It's already out didn't you notice? __________ Capacitor research
W1rlW1nd	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:19:00 - [3] StiZum you are not paying attention. Shiva is to come later.
Squirrel	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:20:00 - [4] Stizum is actually right.... it WAS due in may... but hell.. when have ccp EVER paid attention to previous deadlines.... the game itself was pushed back something like 8 months from their first date anyways.... but hey... arent we all glad ccp stills runs this instead of an actually competent company? _______________________________________________ Carfax > guys, please dont pvp here, it messes up the avoid pd kill zones autopilot option
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:26:00 - [5] Originally by: Squirrel Stizum is actually right.... it WAS due in may... but hell.. when have ccp EVER paid attention to previous deadlines.... the game itself was pushed back something like 8 months from their first date anyways.... but hey... arent we all glad ccp stills runs this instead of an actually competent company? yawn and let me guess... if you would be in charge you would make it better.... somehow this ranting about CCPs abilities gets soooooooooo old ---- Manfred Doomhammer Fleet Admiral CEO ShadowTec Inc.
Raymears Extremesurvival	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:27:00 - [6] ccp do a good job try playing daoc on euro servers or asherons call they are so badly handled its unreal
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Raymears Extremesurvival ccp do a good job try playing daoc on euro servers or asherons call they are so badly handled its unreal Unreal isn't badly handled. __________ Capacitor research
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:37:00 - [8] Stuzum is right, it was due may, apparently it will not come before Q3, so we have to wait 2 weeks for another castor patch. As you all allredy have seen, that patch will mostly center around pp related stuff I would rather have a big shiva patch, but we will have to wait allthough im getting very impatient Hopefully they will have sorted many of the smaller glitches ingame by that time. 1: bugged gang. 2: local chat bug. 3: clientside lag. fell free to put things you want to have fixed in here Anyway CCP keep going, your still the best game out there in my opinion. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
Obidios	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Dust Puppy Originally by: Raymears Extremesurvival ccp do a good job Unreal isn't badly handled. Then go play your Unreal.... Eve is nothing like Unreal, I agree with the above post. CCP is doing a fine job. If you can program, I would like to see you run Eve better... -----------------
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.05.26 22:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Obidios Originally by: Dust Puppy Originally by: Raymears Extremesurvival ccp do a good job Unreal isn't badly handled. Then go play your Unreal.... Eve is nothing like Unreal, I agree with the above post. CCP is doing a fine job. If you can program, I would like to see you run Eve better... I really don't think you got my post. __________ Capacitor research
Marias	Posted - 2004.05.26 23:29:00 - [11] Quote: arent we all glad ccp stills runs this instead of an actually competent company? Show me a software company that keeps its release dates, and I'll show you the frog that you've been licking. ----------------------------- To the lesser of two weevils!
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.05.26 23:38:00 - [12] Originally by: Marias Quote: arent we all glad ccp stills runs this instead of an actually competent company? Show me a software company that keeps its release dates, and I'll show you the frog that you've been licking. lmao, Come-back of the day award goes to you my friend. And so true as well. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Emlyn Telak	Posted - 2004.05.26 23:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Raymears Extremesurvival ccp do a good job try playing daoc on euro servers or asherons call they are so badly handled its unreal Dont take this out of context.. He isnt talking about the game unreal.. sigh
Frankinator	Posted - 2004.05.26 23:56:00 - [14] It's so awesome that half of all the threads have been about Shiva for the last two months. Please keep it up!
Tyrenical	Posted - 2004.05.27 00:11:00 - [15] just because every other software complany lies doesnt mean thats its ok for the eve devs to do the samething ............................................... Striking you. CEO of The Legitimate Businessmans Club
Ichabod Dirange	Posted - 2004.05.27 01:08:00 - [16] Have you ever in any field of development come across anything finishing on time or at the projected cost? It's all best case scenarios and wishful thinking to string investors along.
Zantei	Posted - 2004.05.27 02:04:00 - [17] Some pretty god-awful thinking going on here. "It's ok because everyone else is sub par when it comes to keeping to deadlines." /spit
Styrmir	Posted - 2004.05.27 02:06:00 - [18] Well, they have stated the new time of release due to more being included in Shiva than originally intended. CCP is keeping us informed which is a good thing, much more important than getting the package before it is ready Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum
Doppleganger	Posted - 2004.05.27 02:44:00 - [19] CCP will have Shiva out when its ready..... they are just lucky they work on a game for a living. I think ppl like myself are more tolerent on delayed schedules of releases. In my job if one of my projects is late I'm better off spending time looking for a new job since I will need one.
MooKids	Posted - 2004.05.27 02:55:00 - [20] It comes down the the question of do you want it now and buggy/unbalanced, or later and ready? -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Doppleganger	Posted - 2004.05.27 03:03:00 - [21] Edited by: Doppleganger on 27/05/2004 03:05:36 Originally by: MooKids It comes down the the question of do you want it now and buggy/unbalanced, or later and ready? Shouldn't that be "now buggy/unbalanced, or later buggy/unbalanced?" -just kidding- I prefer later and ready.
MooKids	Posted - 2004.05.27 03:07:00 - [22] Originally by: Doppleganger Originally by: MooKids It comes down the the question of do you want it now and buggy/unbalanced, or later and ready? Shouldn't that be "now buggy/unbalanced, or later buggy/unbalanced?" Well, there are different degrees of buggy/unbalanced. For example, I've had to deal with annoying bugs, like in E&B beta where chat kept spamming, to really ***ed off bugs like in Anarchy Online where my damn Slayerdriod would hump the table and not attack. if anything, I would prefer that they fix the big things right away and get them out early. This also reminds me of playing Planetside, where one day the devs found out why the Vanu were sucking because one of their guns actually did no damage at all! -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.*
StoreSlem	Posted - 2004.05.27 04:56:00 - [23] Originally by: Emlyn Telak Originally by: Raymears Extremesurvival ccp do a good job try playing daoc on euro servers or asherons call they are so badly handled its unreal Dont take this out of context.. He isnt talking about the game unreal.. sigh lol... it wasn't really funny at first, but now...
XuevranLed	Posted - 2004.05.27 05:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Squirrel arent we all glad ccp stills runs this instead of an actually competent company? Another MMORPG company? Competent? ahahahahahahahaha
Yamato	Posted - 2004.05.27 06:22:00 - [25] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii wasnt shiva like meant to be out in may time? seems we are coming to the end of may to me WTF, read all the stickies in the forums. I'm so unlucky that if I was to fall into a barrel of nipples I'd come out sucking my thumb.
Shauna	Posted - 2004.05.27 06:50:00 - [26] Originally by: Squirrel Stizum is actually right.... it WAS due in may... but hell.. when have ccp EVER paid attention to previous deadlines.... the game itself was pushed back something like 8 months from their first date anyways.... but hey... arent we all glad ccp stills runs this instead of an actually competent company? Ok... so I for one am really happy they delayed the release towards the end. Some of the stuff in beta wouldn't have worked in retail (anyone remember those !&!#@ docking rings?). I've been pretty impressed with the direction CCP's taken things... the game does keep getting better and better.
Severus Trajan	Posted - 2004.05.27 06:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Tyrenical just because every other software complany lies doesnt mean thats its ok for the eve devs to do the samething For ---- sake: Updated release plan != a lie How old are you people? Have you ever held a real job? Never mind, I suspect I already know the answer. As a service to mankind I offer the old but oh so appropriate cluepon.
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.05.27 12:09:00 - [28] first CCP will NERF combat as it is, so well be very very ****ed. and then like dogs once they release a good patch well all join and ask our friends to come also. then they repeat it till they get loads of players --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
AbraKadaver	Posted - 2004.05.27 12:25:00 - [29] When was the last time a game's company actually kept to their schedule? As long as its useable when it comes out, its all cool. ..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
Lazarus Longinus	Posted - 2004.05.27 12:39:00 - [30] No game company has ever kept to schedule. To give the best example of a life time. Team Fortress 2, has been delayed approximately a year, maybe more, lol. When people moan about the FREE content update that was promised in may but unfortunately not ready, it makes you wonder about the thought process of said people. Single track comes to mind, it seems to me that they believe that CCP spends ALL their time with Shiva and therefore it should've been out yesterday when its so clearly not the case. To help you track deficient people, running a game like this consists of several concurrent and never ending projects. They are (but aren't limited to) Storyline Content Balance Event Hardware (often refered to as technology enhancement) Bug Hunting Patching Community Management Now a lot of games can't even handle all of these, EnB for example had almost no form of community management, it was so non-existant that the official forums were run by someone else. Anarchy Online, well .... you didn't have to look far for a bug or dozen, everythign from people trapped in tables to guns that waste entire clips of ammo without actually firing and as for content, well, we need only look at UO which requires you to spend another ú30 to install another gig of stuff so that your sword-carrying,plate-mail wearing, magic-hurling character could look exaclty the same as the previous content purchase but now you could go somewhere else to get PK'd by someone and his buddies camping at the only gate into this new land. CCP has managed to do all of these and is doing it well, sure it seems a bad job to those of you don't understand but they are doing a tremendous job of it, heck its the first time I've EVER seen someone with the role of Community Manager actually knowing where the community exists. So next time, before you complain about how CCP is not keeping their promises remember. It's not so bad, you could have EA running this game : D --------------------------------------------- I'm the root of all thats evil yeah, but you can call me Cooki3 Some people couldn't get a clue, if they were in the middle of a clue field, in the middle of clue mating season, doused in clue pheromones, in a clue suit, shouting "Clooo! Clooo!" whilst beating themselves with a clue stick

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