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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:05:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Nenyu
There have to be some safeguards that any respectable bank would put into place.
'The SCC is responsible for regulating and monitoring all trade transactions that take place on space stations. It has agents on all stations that record the transactions and they also offer courier and escrow services to make trade smooth.'
So if I understand the OPs point, essentially, you're saying that the SCC is failing in it's duty of care to it's customers.
Can I suggest that you raise the issue with DED and ask them to look into the matter? Perhaps a class action could be taken against the SCC directors if the DED fail to investigate fully. I'm sure Eman Autrech (SCC CFO) would take that seriously. He might even institute a new interface which stops people with an IQ of < 3 from using contracts 
Rabies is unexpected
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TemporaryUser
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:59:00 -
[32]
wts contract security add-on
price: 130.000.000,00 ISK (after u send me isk i send u download link with installing instructions)
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.25 12:10:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Nenyu
So, i was looking through the contracts today and saw that virtually every single 'want to buy' contract was a scam. They all say "450 million" in the title, but then they are really only offering 425k (AND NO, I did not fall victim to a scam, nor have i ever). Many of the sell orders are scams too by trying to pass off a regular T1 as a faction ship etc. It is incredibly sad that half or more of all the contracts I saw were scams. There have to be some safeguards that any respectable bank would put into place.
I just feel bad for the cold hearless malice that this would have to take to try to scam poor harmless noobs. In eve, we like our noobs, becuase without them, we are not. Please ccp, put some safguards into place to protect our noob base from all the terrible and souless scammers out there. Thanks
(and please dont flame, call me a fluffy stuffed bear, or ask if you can have my stuff or my character or anything that belongs to my person) Thanks!
The contract scams are easy to spot. Open the contract and look at the contents and look at the monetary value which the player has no control over. Titles mean nothing, you can mostly ignore them anyway.
You want that we go back to the Escrow system? Now there was a really good way to scam players and the whole reason it was changed.
The Escrow system was changed to contracts to make it far easier to spot scams and dumbed down the game to the level of a 10 year old. Don't ask for Eve to be dumbed down to the level of a 3 year old.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.07.25 12:19:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Nenyu
They all say "450 million" in the title […]
Wait, what‽ People actually read the titles? Why? They contain no information of value. 
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Cynical Attitude
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:46:00 -
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It would not be too difficult to assign a "fair value" to every item in the game - many items already have one.
This could then be used in two ways to reduce contract scamming -
1. An extra warning when accepting a contract if the asking price is widely different from the "fair value", and/or
2. (My preferred option) the price to set up a contract should include a factor based on the difference between the asking price and the "fair price", meaning it costs more to set up a scam contract than a normal one.
Personally, I just ignore all contracts from scammers - I doubt I'm missing anything important.
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Orogaldeo
Amarr
Star Horizons
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:49:00 -
[36]
Dear troll.
No, i will have your stuff anyway
and Yes, CCP will implement something to help the scammer with the contracts
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Vyt
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Posted - 2008.07.25 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Seniste
If you fall for one of these scams, theres no one to blame but yourself. If you sign a contract to sell a car for 350$ in person, and then whine that "This isn't fair!  "... there is no "Moron" clause to law. You sign a legally binding agreement. If you sign said agreement without actually reading it...
Thats not actually true. If the person were to then not sell the car and was taken to court, the person buying the car would have to prove that there was "consideration" or the contract is not binding. And it can be hard to prove considerationw hen the value and price are ridiculously off.
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Xaen
Caldari
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 19:49:00 -
[38]
I don't have a problem with people trying to scam via contracts.
What's annoying is when you can't find legitimate ones for all the scam spam.
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Hieronimus Rex
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Posted - 2008.07.25 20:20:00 -
[39]
The solution to this is not making some half-baked scam prevention rules, but rather to increase the length of the ignore list for contracts. Currently I think its only like 100, which is far far far too low. If you increase it you can block anyone who puts up a scam contract.
Also I've had no trouble finding no-scam bs BPCs. Those are all legit. Pretty much anything a noob wouldn't buy (READ: Not a CNR) will have plenty of legit contracts.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2008.07.25 20:22:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Nenyu
So, i was looking through the contracts today and saw that virtually every single 'want to buy' contract was a scam. They all say "450 million" in the title, but then they are really only offering 425k (AND NO, I did not fall victim to a scam, nor have i ever). Many of the sell orders are scams too by trying to pass off a regular T1 as a faction ship etc. It is incredibly sad that half or more of all the contracts I saw were scams. There have to be some safeguards that any respectable bank would put into place.
I just feel bad for the cold hearless malice that this would have to take to try to scam poor harmless noobs. In eve, we like our noobs, becuase without them, we are not. Please ccp, put some safguards into place to protect our noob base from all the terrible and souless scammers out there. Thanks
(and please dont flame, call me a fluffy stuffed bear, or ask if you can have my stuff or my character or anything that belongs to my person) Thanks!
you want CCP to protect you from your own idiocy? Sorry, the only way for anyone to accomplish that is for YOU to kill yourself. CCP shouldnt change the game to pander to idiots.
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Redhouse
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Posted - 2008.07.26 00:28:00 -
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A built in reputation system would be nice. Like a +/- rating system on each contract. Of course you'd accutaly have to accept a contract to get a vote for that to work.
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GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente
Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.07.26 00:31:00 -
[42]
i haven't personally done it
but i don't mind becoming a wealth distribution officer
steal from the rich and give to the more intelligent
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