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facialimpediment
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Posted - 2008.07.25 15:54:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Dionysus
With a few rigs, T2 overdrives and microwarpdrive and some implants, I can easily break 4km/sec with a vagabond. Then you can add gang bonuses, boosters, etc.
You do realize that very few HAC pilots actually use speed implants, right?
Right?
RIGHT?
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facialimpediment
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dionysus
Translation pt2: yelling "the sky is falling" without even seeing the changes is not very helpful. Some of the comments in here have been interesting and useful, others not so much. thats what "grain of salt" is all about. If you come back with a thought through and intelligent commentary on these proposals, then we can understand what and why you are making them. 1 line flippant comments are not very helpful.
A lot of people are yelling about the sky falling because it's pretty obvious that the dev team has never tried to solo-gank a ratter, nor actually experienced daily PvP of the sort that these changes potentially break. Killing a drake or a raven is about to become even more impossible due to a speed change, when an alternate fix that would've worked is adjusting the capacitor of HACs (such as the sacrilege) so that a ship can not use a MWD for a long period of time (such as a vagabond). I agree that speeds are pretty absurd right now, but completely breaking the way the game works without experiencing half of the stuff HAC pilots do doesn't make much sense. |
facialimpediment
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dionysus
Vagabond:
High: nothing
Med: 10mn microwarpdrive
Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2
Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2
Implants. full snake set.
No special named modules etc.
Ok let me repeat myself. I will repeat the lines so you understand it too.
NOT ALL HAC PILOTS FLY SNAKED-OUT PODS, THEY ARE THE MINORITY.
NOT ALL HAC PILOTS FLY SNAKED-OUT PODS, THEY ARE THE MINORITY.
NOT ALL HAC PILOTS FLY SNAKED-OUT PODS, THEY ARE THE MINORITY.
Can you at least provide statistics about the amount of snake sets sold and used, since you're so adamant about fitting HACs with them? |
facialimpediment
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil
So, since I can't get on SISI until that patch deploys, help me out here.
Say a max-skilled Vagabond, with 2 speed rigs and 3 lowslot speed modules. 10MN MWD II, with say the 10% bonus from gangskills and baseline no implants or hardwirings in - what would I get?
If you factor in the snake set and the t2 rigs like that CCP guy is, you get an empty wallet. |
facialimpediment
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: facialimpediment on 25/07/2008 16:13:16
Originally by: Entelechia
I, uhh...wow. I was pretty reasonable in my last post, but if CCP is really balancing things based on Snakes, that's really, really, really stupid.
As many, many people have pointed out: Most of us don't run snakes, because most of us won't pay 3bn for some implants. Hello, CCP, wake up. If snakes are the issue, nerf snakes, not everything else. Seriously, come on.
If CCP gathers anything from this thread, they need to gather that fact. Snake pilots are like 1% of all HAC pilots, but again I wouldn't know because hey no statistics on it.
And again, figuring anything out based on T2 rigs and a snake set is idiocy.
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facialimpediment
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: TheAdj
Originally by: CCP Dionysus
Originally by: Matrixcvd
SO did that 4km/s vaga not really have T2 lows but Republic fleet ODs? come on now tell us the truth, T2 polys with there 7& bonus... You can tell us you got that number right off EFT wiht all the best implants and fittings, barely broke 4km/s, and btw breaking 4km/s doesnt mean 4028m/s either.
Vagabond:
High: nothing
Med: 10mn microwarpdrive
Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2
Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2
Implants. full snake set.
No special named modules etc.
This has to be a troll, there's no way you're serious. "No special named modules"? Do you play the same game we do? You have t2 rigs and a FULL SNAKE SET. Do you seriously think the average player uses this currently? A current setup an average pilot has would have 2 T1 Polys and 2-3 Overdrives on a Vagabond, with no implants. Don't use for your "comparison testing" a T2 rigged, snaked character, which the average players also doesn't have.
He's right, you know.
Devs and GMs playing a completely different game than we are have no business "rebalancing" anything, especially using a snaked pod and t2 rigs as the baseline. |
facialimpediment
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:46:00 -
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You know, after all this discussion about speed in the CCP meeting, what about just axing snakes? Sure seems more prudent to me to screw over 1% of all HAC/inty users rather than screwing over 50% of all HAC/inty users.
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facialimpediment
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.26 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Carebear Caring
Worst dev blog ever, who ever thought of this should be fired tbqh
Personally, I'd prefer that whoever wrote the dev blog actually played the damn game.
Seriously.
That's not much to ask. |
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