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Dentel
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:14:00 -
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and again a new neft to ruin the fun off playing. insteed off doing something about the lag hell no lets **** it up more. but i ques that is what ccp whant to get all poeple to leave the game. well done on that part. im out
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MilkyBar Kid
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:34:00 -
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Byeeeee
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. ---- Eve-Radio - Music For The Masses!
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Clueless Alt
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:59:00 -
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Your stuff, can I have it by contract?
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Joey1
Caldari Black Screen of Death HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.07.25 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Clueless Alt Your stuff, can I have it by contract?
Same pls -----------------------------------------------------
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Larkara
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dentel and again a new neft to ruin the fun off playing. insteed off doing something about the lag hell no lets **** it up more. but i ques that is what ccp whant to get all poeple to leave the game. well done on that part. im out
Make a valid argument with supporting data and indepth constructive points.
or just leave. and yea contract me your stuff.
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Ferocious FeAr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 25/07/2008 18:41:58 I would say can I have your stuff but you probably have shit assets going off that comment. I can't see how someone would even have something valuable.
Dot com.
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Ciara Daag
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.07.25 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Clueless Alt Your stuff, can I have it by contract?
Actually,he can keep his stuff,its all speed gear im sure,so its pretty worthless now.
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phalcoon
Caldari Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.07.26 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ciara Daag
Originally by: Clueless Alt Your stuff, can I have it by contract?
Actually,he can keep his stuff,its all speed gear im sure,so its pretty worthless now.
Now thats funny, but your probably right. After all i hear all thoes poly hacs are going to be droping in price in the near future. |
Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Joey1
Originally by: Clueless Alt Your stuff, can I have it by contract?
Same pls
33/33/33?
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Xorxarle
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.26 10:58:00 -
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In that case can I have the remaining 1%?
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verde bandit
Amarr Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2008.07.26 11:17:00 -
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It's not CCP ruining the game but players finding a niche CCP didn't expect players to exploit to such extends.
In that case, becoming pretty much invulnerable to any kind of backfire is unbalanced and needed to be fixed.
So carry on crying oceans. The speed issue was going to be nerf at a time or another. Deal with it .
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Diehard Si
UK1 Zero G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.07.26 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: verde bandit
In that case, becoming pretty much invulnerable to any kind of backfire is unbalanced and needed to be fixed.
So carry on crying oceans. The speed issue was going to be nerf at a time or another. Deal with it .
I'm sorry but that is complete rubbish.
No-one is invulnerable in a nano gang. I'm guessing you've never really PVP'd much otherwise you would probably grasp such issues. There are LOADS of counters to nano gangs.
Firstly a few rapiers always helps. But any gang not including a few of these and the odd falcon deserves to die really.
Secondly pilot skill is important, all it needs is a little thought and an overheated webber and it is VERY easy to get a web on and kill a nano hac.
Thirdly - remote repping BS's with sentry drones etc are very hard to kill unless really blobbed ( in which case they'd die anyway )
Fouth - Precision missiles on the right ships still hurt
Fifth - Get an FC who knows what he's doing.
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Napro
Caldari Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.26 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Diehard Si
Originally by: verde bandit
In that case, becoming pretty much invulnerable to any kind of backfire is unbalanced and needed to be fixed.
So carry on crying oceans. The speed issue was going to be nerf at a time or another. Deal with it .
I'm sorry but that is complete rubbish.
No-one is invulnerable in a nano gang. I'm guessing you've never really PVP'd much otherwise you would probably grasp such issues. There are LOADS of counters to nano gangs.
Firstly a few rapiers always helps. But any gang not including a few of these and the odd falcon deserves to die really.
Secondly pilot skill is important, all it needs is a little thought and an overheated webber and it is VERY easy to get a web on and kill a nano hac.
Thirdly - remote repping BS's with sentry drones etc are very hard to kill unless really blobbed ( in which case they'd die anyway )
Fouth - Precision missiles on the right ships still hurt
Fifth - Get an FC who knows what he's doing.
Yeah... we could do all these specializations to accomodate to your gameplay. Or you can accept that your I Win button is gone and accomodate everyone else's gameplay.
Looks like the devs made that choice for you
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Jarvin Kell
Task Force Zener
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Napro
Originally by: Diehard Si
Originally by: verde bandit
In that case, becoming pretty much invulnerable to any kind of backfire is unbalanced and needed to be fixed.
So carry on crying oceans. The speed issue was going to be nerf at a time or another. Deal with it .
I'm sorry but that is complete rubbish.
No-one is invulnerable in a nano gang. I'm guessing you've never really PVP'd much otherwise you would probably grasp such issues. There are LOADS of counters to nano gangs.
Firstly a few rapiers always helps. But any gang not including a few of these and the odd falcon deserves to die really.
Secondly pilot skill is important, all it needs is a little thought and an overheated webber and it is VERY easy to get a web on and kill a nano hac.
Thirdly - remote repping BS's with sentry drones etc are very hard to kill unless really blobbed ( in which case they'd die anyway )
Fouth - Precision missiles on the right ships still hurt
Fifth - Get an FC who knows what he's doing.
Yeah... we could do all these specializations to accomodate to your gameplay. Or you can accept that your I Win button is gone and accomodate everyone else's gameplay.
Looks like the devs made that choice for you
First of all, you don't need ALL of those "specializations" to counter a nano gang.
Secondly it's pretty sad that people think removing options from the game improves it. That's the beauty of Eve...being able to do so many different things, and the number of ways to go about it.
Removing specialized roles from ships isn't good. Look at assault frigates--no real reason to fly one. Most HACS will be the same way.
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Vorce
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:54:00 -
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Am I too late for the assets giveaway? ----------
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Col Callahan
Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.07.28 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: MilkyBar Kid Byeeeee
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Same, bye bye "Wave"
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.07.28 20:15:00 -
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damn it was going to ask for his cash :P
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Revoluti0nx
White-Noise
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Posted - 2008.07.28 21:04:00 -
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Excuse me, but was that English? ---------------------------------------------------
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.07.28 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jarvin Kell
Removing specialized roles from ships isn't good. Look at assault frigates--no real reason to fly one. Most HACS will be the same way.
I'll give you that, but then most nano ships aren't specialized in speed. If we had a ship that had speed and agility bonuses, you can talk about a specialized ship and it would be sad to see it go. Interceptors are by nature fast, but they are not specialized in speed. HAC's should not be fast or they should have their name changed to LAC's (Light Assault Cruisers). A stealthbomber and covert ops battleship are specialized ships.
So in this case, no specialized ship get hurt, only the specialized setups.
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Jarvin Kell
Task Force Zener
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Posted - 2008.07.28 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Jarvin Kell
Removing specialized roles from ships isn't good. Look at assault frigates--no real reason to fly one. Most HACS will be the same way.
I'll give you that, but then most nano ships aren't specialized in speed. If we had a ship that had speed and agility bonuses, you can talk about a specialized ship and it would be sad to see it go. Interceptors are by nature fast, but they are not specialized in speed. HAC's should not be fast or they should have their name changed to LAC's (Light Assault Cruisers). A stealthbomber and covert ops battleship are specialized ships.
So in this case, no specialized ship get hurt, only the specialized setups.
I agree that speed wasn't the original role of a hac (for the most part). On the other hand what will their new role be? Somewhat increased mobility over a battlecruiser (with a much higher expense)?
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Tomic
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.28 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: verde bandit It's not CCP ruining the game but players finding a niche CCP didn't expect players to exploit to such extends.
In that case, becoming pretty much invulnerable to any kind of backfire is unbalanced and needed to be fixed.
So carry on crying oceans. The speed issue was going to be nerf at a time or another. Deal with it .
Why don't you go play WoW and we will stay here and play a real game.
Basically the carebears aren't good enough at eve to counter nanos so they whine until it gets nerfed. Go play WoW before you turn eve into the chinese cluster (WoW in space).
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Lamic Tarvalla
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Clueless Alt Your stuff, can I have it by contract?
Nope don't want it. They are probably all nano'd ships. Haven't you heard Nano's are a thing of the past?
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.29 09:20:00 -
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Yawn. Can't we get this moved to GD or CAOD where it belongs with the rest of the cesspool? Nothing in here that's actually constructive, or game test feedback. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation or alliance, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2008.07.29 09:28:00 -
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I for one don't think the nano-nerf is a viable option as it is implemented. Instead, what CCP should've done is to sit down and think of new ways to combat the nano menace. This way, gamestyle doesn't change and people still have valid ways to combat ships, leaving the choice yet once more to the main element, fitting properly.
That's what i would say if i gave a crap
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Deverian Tarik
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dentel and again a new neft to ruin the fun off playing. insteed off doing something about the lag hell no lets **** it up more. but i ques that is what ccp whant to get all poeple to leave the game. well done on that part. im out
I don't think I've ever seen so many spelling mistakes in such a short post.
Well, apart from a Jenny Spitfire one, ofc.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.07.29 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dentel and again a new neft to ruin the fun off playing. insteed off doing something about the lag hell no lets **** it up more. but i ques that is what ccp whant to get all poeple to leave the game. well done on that part. im out
Obvious troll but eh who cares tbh.
The nano changes have been pretty well on target to reign in some of the moar obvious abuses of speed but on the other hand a few select ships that should be nano fit got it in the arse too. However most people seem to be in agreement over that bit of annoyance so I'm sure CCP will tweak the changes around a bit well before it will hit TQ. And no reason to ask for your stuff as you know your not going to quit.
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Upright
Amarr Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Associates
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Posted - 2008.07.29 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jarvin Kell
I agree that speed wasn't the original role of a hac (for the most part). On the other hand what will their new role be? Somewhat increased mobility over a battlecruiser (with a much higher expense)?
Yeap.
To people who say HACS were useful before the nanocraze... There wasnt Tier 2 BC's back then.
This 'patch' effectively made HACS the new AF's. Yeah they are good at what they do, but u can do better, with much less isk.
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Furb Killer
Gallente The first genesis Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.07.29 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 29/07/2008 09:45:39
Originally by: Diehard Si
Originally by: verde bandit
In that case, becoming pretty much invulnerable to any kind of backfire is unbalanced and needed to be fixed.
So carry on crying oceans. The speed issue was going to be nerf at a time or another. Deal with it .
I'm sorry but that is complete rubbish.
No-one is invulnerable in a nano gang. I'm guessing you've never really PVP'd much otherwise you would probably grasp such issues. There are LOADS of counters to nano gangs.
Firstly a few rapiers always helps. But any gang not including a few of these and the odd falcon deserves to die really.
Secondly pilot skill is important, all it needs is a little thought and an overheated webber and it is VERY easy to get a web on and kill a nano hac.
Thirdly - remote repping BS's with sentry drones etc are very hard to kill unless really blobbed ( in which case they'd die anyway )
Fouth - Precision missiles on the right ships still hurt
Fifth - Get an FC who knows what he's doing.
1. So we can counter nanos with nano rapiers, good to know.
2. Oh we can kill them when the nano pilot is an idiot, also great help.
3. That is a way to survive nanos, not to kill them.
4. See point 3.
Btw, this patch will make AFs usefull again
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Lily Cole
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Posted - 2008.07.29 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Nanonoob bait...
We've known for ages that when people say "counter" with respect to anything except nano, they mean kill it. When nanonoobs say counter, they mean, make me run away, but never ever kill.
We know it, deep down they know it, and now it is obvious CCP know it.
That nanonoobs are still beating the same tired drum that didn't even sound right the day it was first beat is just lol. |
Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.07.29 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tomic
Originally by: verde bandit It's not CCP ruining the game but players finding a niche CCP didn't expect players to exploit to such extends.
In that case, becoming pretty much invulnerable to any kind of backfire is unbalanced and needed to be fixed.
So carry on crying oceans. The speed issue was going to be nerf at a time or another. Deal with it .
Why don't you go play WoW and we will stay here and play a real game.
Basically the carebears aren't good enough at eve to counter nanos so they whine until it gets nerfed. Go play WoW before you turn eve into the chinese cluster (WoW in space).
So it is okay for ships to outrun, and therefore, be immune to missiles?
The only counter to nano is to nano. Unless you consider forcing a nano to flee as a "counter."
This Pandemic Legion has cried more the past few days than any carebears I have seen, How about you idiots stfu and adapt? Go back to gatecamping Amamake if you can't hack it.
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