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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:18:00 -
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Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations?
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
938
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:21:00 -
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WiS
Vote Issler Dainze for CSM7!
http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=470-á |
Sasha Khaine
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:21:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations?
It's hard to choose when you aren't very enthusiastic about either. But if I had to choose I'd say WiS and get it done properly :D
Welcome to EVE"The entire British empire was founded on cups of tea... and if you think I'm going to war without one, mate. You're sadly mistaken" |
Matrix Operator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:24:00 -
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Dust. Its more groundbreaking and has vastly more potential for the Eve Universe. It will also bring more meaning to 'War' which enhances gameplay more.
No contest really. |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:28:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations?
This is a difficult question to answer. What defines WiS? I can't easily compare that against Dust 514 which is almost a fully fleshed out product while WiS is still at the design stage. Is it the Captains' Quarters? Is it gambling, assassination, seedy brothels, black-market trading, EVE integration and all that? I can't tell what you think WiS is.
If WiS became a fully fledged game like Dust 514 with meaningful interaction with EVE Online and it had the type of publicity and support that Dust has, then WiS. Especially if they carry on with the player versus player competitive aspect of EVE in WiS.
If it is the way it is now, then Dust as it can bring in more revenue that can be used on other components of EVE Universe and it completments the |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command
Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:43:00 -
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DUST 514, for more or less exactly the same reasons as what Ai said above me.
http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514
http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1941
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Posted - 2012.03.19 00:38:00 -
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Dust will plague the game with console kiddies and WiS caters to insufferable roleplayers. I'd vote for CCP continuing on their current track of focusing on Eve.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.03.19 00:49:00 -
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If I had to pick the lesser of two evils, I'd pick Dirt 90210.
It will be obsolete when it arrives and lose the couple of players giving it a try after Call of BattleArma XI was released. CCP will finally realize it was a bad idea, fire a few hundred employees and focus on eve even more.
If they focus on spacebarbies, it ends up with an eve client cluttered with 1000$ jeans noone gives a damn about...
morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2012.03.19 01:09:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote: and WiS caters to insufferable roleplayers.
Well we already have socially impotent basement dwelling men pretending to be old ladies, so the roleplaying is already here and happening.
Personally I don't play shooters on a console so I'd be more inclined to pick an interactive station environment in which to spend my iskies. But objectively it's not a question that can be answered easily. Apples and oranges. Catering to two completely different demographics.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.03.19 01:16:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:But objectively it's not a question that can be answered easily. Apples and oranges. Catering to two completely different demographics.
Console kids vs dumbasses.
Apples and oranges indeed... |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.03.19 01:30:00 -
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Arsedestroyer wrote:
Console kids vs dumbasses.
Apples and oranges indeed...
Well - the console kids will at least leave the eve client largely unaffected after dirt died. The dumbass extensions will remain as dead weight - just as the nex store and CQ.
morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.19 01:40:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Dust will plague the game with console kiddies and WiS caters to insufferable roleplayers. I'd vote for CCP continuing on their current track of focusing on Eve.
Yes there is clearly so much crossover in the way Eve plays and the way Dust will play. Must be why so many CoD kids are rabid Risk fans as well. 
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Xyla Vulchanus
Havoc Violence and Chaos
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2012.03.19 02:01:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations?
Neither, as they are both going to absolutely suck. |
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
Glorious Revolution
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.19 03:52:00 -
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WiS!
But remember, WiS =/= NEX.
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Arakazzi
Epsilon Inc
STORM.
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Posted - 2012.03.19 04:04:00 -
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Xyla Vulchanus wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations?
Neither, as they are both going to absolutely suck.
Is there a way that WiS would work for you?
Or
Are you so set against the idea of controling an avatar in a station or world environment that anything CCP proposes you will reject out of hand? |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1055
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Posted - 2012.03.19 04:12:00 -
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This is quite hilarious question as dust is about to get released, WIS is not.
Guess where the focus is.
Get |
YuuKnow
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Posted - 2012.03.19 04:40:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Dust will plague the game with console kiddies and WiS caters to insufferable roleplayers. I'd vote for CCP continuing on their current track of focusing on Eve.
Because Eve's players act soo much more mature...and providing better immersion is bad why? You prefer minecraft? |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.19 04:54:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Dust will plague the game with console kiddies and WiS caters to insufferable roleplayers. I'd vote for CCP continuing on their current track of focusing on Eve. Because Eve's players act soo much more mature...and providing better immersion is bad why? You prefer minecraft?
because i fear god's wrath when the dudes start lisping and emoting each other in stations
wis: a cesspool of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, bunch of dudes emoting each other, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted. |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.19 04:57:00 -
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Could make Dust WIS, which is what I first thought was going to come to pass in regards to station interaction etc. and give the people who are craving manual flight some kind of a fps fix. Meanwhile those who don't can just play structure grinds still and vaporize everyone in it.
But that isn't the case, at this point given the choices, dust, because it's the closest to what I expected WIS to be among other things. I doubt roleplayers will find any love beyond a channel format anytime soon. This of course is a very negative outlook, I remain patient as always in the many years of promises.
That said, to those who hate both, I don't care, you don't have to engage them. CCP may or may not listen to you, but given the state of Dust we know that's a go regardless if it fails, it's still there and it would be moronic to not place it somewhere else should it do so, and well we WIS fans have been waiting patiently, perhaps we'll get lucky through demise this time. I won't be holding my breath though, I came to EVE for the Thorax / Hyperion alone, everything else is fluff. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.03.19 08:21:00 -
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Lately I seen this game being plauged by those who cry out the loudest about the other aspects and being almost no better off than the ones they level thier accusations at.
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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2012.03.19 11:41:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations? This is a difficult question to answer. What defines WiS? I can't easily compare that against Dust 514 which is almost a fully fleshed out product while WiS is still at the design stage. Is it the Captains' Quarters? Is it gambling, assassination, seedy brothels, black-market trading, EVE integration and all that? I can't tell what you think WiS is. If WiS became a fully fledged game like Dust 514 with meaningful interaction with EVE Online and it had the type of publicity and support that Dust has, then WiS. Especially if they carry on with the player versus player competitive aspect of EVE in WiS. If it is the way it is now, then Dust as it can bring in more revenue that can be used on other components of EVE Universe and it completments the concept of EVE Online very well.
Pretty much this, a couple of years ago it seemed that CCP had a clear idea what they wanted to make WiS but that never came about and it seems now that they're still trying to figure out how to make it relevant to the game as a whole rather than just walking around showing off avatars in fancy NEX clothing.
When we saw the video they showed at fanfest there was some hope that it would enhance current gameplay with 'going off the grid', black market and access to things that weren't available so easily otherwise, adding an extra level to the game, but that didn't matarialise leaving us with CQ which does very little to add to the game.
I'm totally ambivalent to both right now, I don't own a console and don't care for FPS games and WiS hasn't delivered on the promise they projected 2 years ago so I'm happy just flying ships and playing the game I joined EVE for.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2012.03.19 12:40:00 -
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Thanks for all your comments.
I wanted to ask this question following a discussion with some of my corp/alliance mates last night. We were discussing Dust and and WiS and eventually arrived at a consensus that Dust will most likely have a short life due to the competitiveness of the console FPS market and that we have seen nothing to suggest any new groundbreaking gameplay.
Therefore most of us felt that, given the choice, we would prefer resources to be allocated to WiS as this would enhance the existing EVE experience if done right but ultimately FiS should be CCPGÇÖs main focus.
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Jet Aeon
Two Smoking Barrels
10
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:27:00 -
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Dust is what would be my choice!
While a completed WIS would be nice to see, I think it would get boring after a short while. I'm not sure what sort of long term satisfaction people expect to get from WIS. As for Dust, I think it's and interesting idea to mix the two different platforms and it should make for a much more interesting Eve with Dust game play influencing Eve strategy. |
AdamiaMaxima
Posthuman Society
Enclave.
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:40:00 -
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Walk in stations yeah? My reasons..
I HAVE a MONOCLE SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW IT OFF!
End of dicussion.
You cant outrun death forever, but you sure can make the people trying to kill you work for it.-á |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:44:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Simple question... In addition to CCP's current focus on EVE gameplay, if CCP only had the resources to dedicate to one other feature/product, would you choose Dust 514 or Walk in Stations? This is a difficult question to answer. What defines WiS? I can't easily compare that against Dust 514 which is almost a fully fleshed out product while WiS is still at the design stage. Is it the Captains' Quarters? Is it gambling, assassination, seedy brothels, black-market trading, EVE integration and all that? I can't tell what you think WiS is. If WiS became a fully fledged game like Dust 514 with meaningful interaction with EVE Online and it had the type of publicity and support that Dust has, then WiS. Especially if they carry on with the player versus player competitive aspect of EVE in WiS. If it is the way it is now, then Dust as it can bring in more revenue that can be used on other components of EVE Universe and it completments the concept of EVE Online very well.
This thread ended with the above comment.
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Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:32:00 -
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I'd go WiS, but that is kind of a no brainer, I don't own PS and I do own a PC.
Honestly I'd rather have crewed ships (aka Walking in Ships) than any of this crap. I think it would be awesome to have 15 man ships with gunners, engineers, etc.
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Qen Tye
The Varangian Guard.
United We Stand.
4
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Posted - 2012.03.19 15:03:00 -
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Bootleg Jack wrote:I'd go WiS, but that is kind of a no brainer, I don't own PS and I do own a PC.
Honestly I'd rather have crewed ships (aka Walking in Ships) than any of this crap. I think it would be awesome to have 15 man ships with gunners, engineers, etc.
/signed
Another console FPS which on top interact with EVE ? no thank you.
I have some skirts and boots to show off, so WiS for me. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.03.19 15:13:00 -
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AdamiaMaxima wrote:Walk in stations yeah? My reasons..
I HAVE a MONOCLE SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW IT OFF!
End of dicussion.
Your face was ok till it took a monocle to the eye
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
413
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Posted - 2012.03.19 15:55:00 -
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dust 514.
WiS is unusable alone in CQ let alone with 20-100 other people in an entire space station
maybe in 20 years when the average PC can handle it WiS will be revolutionary.
besides, dust was supposed to come out this summer. |
Barakkus
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:31:00 -
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I WANT TO PLAY DUST ON PC NAO! MAKE IT SO CCP!
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