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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.05.28 10:54:00 -
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I don't see how they can change their names =\
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.05.28 11:06:00 -
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what your saying is i need to SELL my isk on e-bay (with the risk of beeing banned!),
make the 10$, send it. then change my portrait.
its a LOT easier to leave teh first 2 steps, and will save some unfair play and bannings 
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I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.05.28 11:14:00 -
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You can also get a job!
"So, deadflip, why do you want to work for us?"
"Uhm, I need to change my char portrait"
"Huh?"
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.05.28 11:20:00 -
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mmmh... my barber bill just rose by 10$ a month 8(
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.05.28 11:25:00 -
[35]
 Originally by: meowcat
Edited by: meowcat on 28/05/2004 07:54:14
aaah
 Character X does a corp-thief job and steals hundreds of millions of isk
Character X sells the isk on ebay making a couple of hundred quid
Character X changes piccy and name and carries on playing with no repercussions
Charcter X, CCP benefit frtom the above
Every other player loses
You need to sort this problem out
a player can make more RL money than the fee costs and now they can get away with it
YOU MUST HAVE A TIME LIMIT OR RECORD THE NAME CHANGES AND HAVE THEM DISPLAYED IN THE CHARACTERS HISTORY
Have you noticed it's about the same amount of money a new account costs? Would be none or little incentitive to pay rl money for a name and char change when you can reprocess the char from login menu :)
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Styrmir
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Posted - 2004.05.28 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: cashman
Edited by: cashman on 27/05/2004 22:47:21
So, what are the new charge going to be then?
Quote:
I agree with the statements here about portrait swap price being too high.
I would say ingame money (isk) would be enough, just a really large amount maybe. Or maybe a choice between those (with a lowered amount of Ç).
Also a restriction should be made, eg once every 3 months like someone already proposed.
PS: Wouldn't it be a good idea to shut down this "service" untill price and such have been settled.
A large amount of isk would not be good since every player has to have equal chances of this.
I would say it is more likely that a relatively young character would want to change their name.
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Uuldahan
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Posted - 2004.05.28 13:24:00 -
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As others say, changes of portraits/names should stay IN game. Just allow us to modify them twice a year for some ISKs if you want to avoid abuse.
For my part, 15 euros/month + time consuming is far enough. And I won't add 1 more euro for any new game service...
EVE is a virtual word with virtual services and must stay VIRTUAL. Introducing RL cash just copy original RL differences between players. Wasn't the point of EVE to avoid this ?? But to create a world where all players have equal chances to do the same things.
RL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EVE !! STOP THIS STUPID TENDENCY !!! You're dividing your player base from their RL situation and it's a very bad thing 
Well, richer players have now access to an IN game service. What can I say then, I'm happy for us but I'm quite sad for me...
Changes of names is also a very bad idea, and if it's implemented should include a time limitation. Please consider the Bounties abuse...it will become a big mess.
And in a RP point of view, this change is very stupid.
Very bad changes. Worst changes ever I'd say
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.05.28 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
You can also get a job!
"So, deadflip, why do you want to work for us?"
"Uhm, I need to change my char portrait"
"Huh?"
but but i like having no job  . bsides, with school AND a job idd have none of the required 8 hours per day playing eve!
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I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
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Rekiem
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Posted - 2004.05.28 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Rekiem on 28/05/2004 13:34:51
Edited by: Rekiem on 28/05/2004 13:34:08
This is the way I see thos whole thing:
Dev1: Hey I found a new way to make more money out of our customers! Lets offer them a name and portrait change like they asked for!
Dev2: Hey thats a good idea.. but I don't see how this is going to get us more money.
Dev1: You see, all we have to do is make up some story that to make those change it takes time and since its an out of game option, we have to charge for it.
Dev2: Wow your a genius. I'm sure some of those online video games addict will be stupid enough to pay for such a simple thing. How much should we charge for this?
Dev1: I was thinking that we should offer a stupid price like 40.00$, that way, they will complain and ask us to lower it to something more decent.. like 10.00$. So if we accept this price, it will seems like were making a big sacrifice to make them happy and we'll look like the good guys you know..
Dev2: You're such a genius. This is a great idea.
Dev1: I'm going to start to work on this newfeature, I should be finished in 1 hour, see you later.
Dev2: See ya!
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Carpo Roolie
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Posted - 2004.05.28 13:37:00 -
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Name changes will NOT be possible!
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.05.28 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 28/05/2004 14:25:07
Originally by: Rekiem
Edited by: Rekiem on 28/05/2004 13:34:51
Edited by: Rekiem on 28/05/2004 13:34:08
This is the way I see thos whole thing:
Dev1: Hey I found a new way to make more money out of our customers! Lets offer them a name and portrait change like they asked for!
Dev2: Hey thats a good idea.. but I don't see how this is going to get us more money.
Dev1: You see, all we have to do is make up some story that to make those change it takes time and since its an out of game option, we have to charge for it.
Dev2: Wow your a genius. I'm sure some of those online video games addict will be stupid enough to pay for such a simple thing. How much should we charge for this?
Dev1: I was thinking that we should offer a stupid price like 40.00$, that way, they will complain and ask us to lower it to something more decent.. like 10.00$. So if we accept this price, it will seems like were making a big sacrifice to make them happy and we'll look like the good guys you know..
Dev2: You're such a genius. This is a great idea.
Dev1: I'm going to start to work on this newfeature, I should be finished in 1 hour, see you later.
Dev2: See ya!
Why am i also feeling like CCP thinks we were born with a single brain cell dedicated to play EVE?
Point 1: I'm not going to pay for something like this. Its virtually free to do, takes no work on their side, as every feature they need is already in the game.
Point 2: I'm not going to pay for it, unless i can pay in USD, as 10 USD is substantially less than 10 EUR,
Point 3: I'm not going to pay for it, as for this money i can play for another month, and these features are nowhere near that in value.
Point 4: I'm not going to pay for it, as I dont really need these features. I would love to change my name to give it a better RPG feel, but thats not worth 20USD for me.
All in one, CCP can go an sc*w itself as far as im concerned. Maybe once they regain my trust by acting reasonably, releasing on time (and decent quality) or not making promises they cant hold, i'll consider giving them money above the bare minimum i have to give them for my accounts.
Maybe its just me, getting a bit bored with the game, and starting to be annoyed by smaller things because of that, but my internal 'respect for CCP' graph is just about to fall trough the zero line, into the negative.
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This post is nothing more than my personal opinion. It does not represent the official standpoint of Fountain Alliance, or the HUN Corporation in any way.
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Jake Pliskin
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Posted - 2004.05.28 14:29:00 -
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"We are going to add for the possibility of changing name also (once we have added the option showing all old names in the client so that this isn't used for identity hopping)."
Quoted from the DevBlog, so that seems to have the options covered
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.05.28 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Carpo Roolie
Name changes will NOT be possible!
oooh  LOOK who didn't read the DEV BLOG 
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.05.28 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Pliskin
"We are going to add for the possibility of changing name also (once we have added the option showing all old names in the client so that this isn't used for identity hopping)."
Quoted from the DevBlog, so that seems to have the options covered
They should simply show the account name next to the character name, as so many other games do. Bang, identity hopping and 50% of alt abuse solved in one move.
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This post is nothing more than my personal opinion. It does not represent the official standpoint of Fountain Alliance, or the HUN Corporation in any way.
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.05.28 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Galk on 28/05/2004 14:56:31
So what hellmar said yesterday in the comments page was a load of fudge then.
Something along the lines of we are charging X amount to keep it limited because we don't want every man and his dog doing it, because it is of vital importance.
24hrs later we have a 30 bucks reduction, and those words go out of the window.
I think it stinks anyway, nothing to do with the cost ect.... but changing peoples whole idents.
You kinda get to know people as they are ect...
I do like the ideas of changing decor thou, clothing ect...
Maybe then i can finaly get this visor off, open up the shirt a little and impress the ladies
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Levin Cavil
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Posted - 2004.05.28 15:10:00 -
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Why isn't this an ingame service? I can see the need to charge people to swap a character from one account to another, that is totally reasonable. What I don't understand is why you are charging real world money for what is essentially cosmetic surgery. Why not make the portrait change cost 10-100mil isk? Cost should be high to prevent abuse and there could be a time limit on it as well if you decide it is necessary. You could even loose attribute points if you have "plastic surgery" too many times or too often.
I can't see how this would be hard to encorporate into the game. Just have the game take the price from the character's wallet then send the player to the character screen where you create your inital avatar, allow the player to change it as they want while staying in the same skill/bloodline selection they made initally. Nothing new needs to be created here, all that needs done is that a button needs to be added to the medical bay. As soon as the player updates his portrait the database entry they had previously is simply overwritten. How hard is that to do?
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.05.28 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 28/05/2004 15:23:25
Hmm Damn both options are expensive.
I dont like the background and the clothes in my pic... 
$10 seems a but much for changing just those.
Originally by: csebal
Point 2: I'm not going to pay for it, unless i can pay in USD, as 10 USD is substantially less than 10 EUR,
Actually 10 USD is about 8 Euro.
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Andvari
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Posted - 2004.05.28 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
...and you needing to bring a lvl 3 agent to 9.0 (or some other high number)
No.
Forcing me spend two months of constant missions just to change my portrait is worse than having to spend $10 to change it.
My biggest gripe right now? I have to have a free character slot open to change the picture. As all of my character slots are occupied, I am effectively blocked from taking advantage of this new feature. I would rather pay $10 (though it really really should be ingame ISK and ingame changed) and when I login next, have a button next to my character in the character select screen that takes me to the face generation of my race/gender/bloodline.
Then hit submit and the face change is complete.
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Andvari
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Posted - 2004.05.28 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Barth3zzzNL
Originally by: csebal
Point 2: I'm not going to pay for it, unless i can pay in USD, as 10 USD is substantially less than 10 EUR,
Actually 10 USD is about 8 Euro.
The funny thing about CCP is that they charge the same number of currency regardless of exchange rate values.
For example, to start a new account, it's $19.99 USD if you live in the US, or Ç19.99 EUR if you live in any country that uses the Euro, or ú19.99 GBP if you live in England, etc. etc. Even there there is a pretty big difference between the values of these currencies.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.05.28 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Deadflip2 on 28/05/2004 16:30:28
ccp logics:
basics:
1+1=3, obvious.
51*125=-42, the 1 looks like a -, cool.
41/9=0, deviding is always 0 right?
Now for eve:
Wife+kids=wßnking,
wßnking+option to make money=exploit every way.
in other words:
-42^2 = -312...
you see?
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"this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me.
I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
OMG im a pretzel!!! |
meowcat
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Posted - 2004.05.28 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Deadflip2
Edited by: Deadflip2 on 28/05/2004 16:30:28
ccp logics:
basics:
1+1=3, obvious.
51*125=-42, the 1 looks like a -, cool.
41/9=0, deviding is always 0 right?
Now for eve:
Wife+kids=wßnking,
wßnking+option to make money=exploit every way.
in other words:
-42^2 = -312...
you see?
my psychiatrist says he wants a word with you
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2004.05.28 17:01:00 -
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What about people who use gametimecards?
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Bella Verde
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Posted - 2004.05.28 18:13:00 -
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I was just checking it out, to see how it worked, but secure-eve is down, and has been for a while.
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Still Hunter
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Posted - 2004.05.28 18:48:00 -
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doesnt seem to work right.
the origianl didnt change, the character i was changing from, changed to the original!!
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kieron
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Posted - 2004.05.28 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Still Hunter
doesnt seem to work right.
the origianl didnt change, the character i was changing from, changed to the original!!
If there is a problem, send in a petition for assistance. If the GMs are unable to assist, send me an e-mail and I'll do what I can to assist.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.05.28 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 28/05/2004 20:14:23
Originally by: Andvari
The funny thing about CCP is that they charge the same number of currency regardless of exchange rate values.
For example, to start a new account, it's $19.99 USD if you live in the US, or Ç19.99 EUR if you live in any country that uses the Euro, or ú19.99 GBP if you live in England, etc. etc. Even there there is a pretty big difference between the values of these currencies.
OMG youre right...
Originally by: My Profile
Subscription Type: 1 Month, Ç14.95
WTF? Thats a ****load of money
Nice rip off...
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.05.28 20:37:00 -
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Hahahaha yeah, you EU members like to brag about how strong the Euro is compared to the dollar, but it means that I pay less for this game than you! 
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.05.28 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 28/05/2004 20:54:53
Originally by: Del Narveux
Hahahaha yeah, you EU members like to brag about how strong the Euro is compared to the dollar, but it means that I pay less for this game than you!
Well arent you special...
The Euro being strong doesnt force CCP to charge us extra in any way.
Hell for as far as i know theyre the only ones doing this.
Bah....
Edit: And the Euro still owns your ass 
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Nemesis I
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Posted - 2004.05.28 21:03:00 -
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Europe enforces CCP to charge VAT thus the difference.
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.05.28 22:13:00 -
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CCP is located in Europe right? Didnt all our damn countries become part of the EU so we could have a better flowing economy and other political bs like that?
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