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Aegrimonia Black Bands	Posted - 2008.07.27 22:37:00 - [1] Looks abit of a mess atm, what's the current situation over there? ------- 2hot4u
SlowMovingFisherman Minmatar I Eatz Ur Baconz	Posted - 2008.07.27 22:40:00 - [2] Drones = ghetto slums of eve, doesn't matter whats going on there.
Blood Thorn Minmatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.27 22:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. .... [url=http://kb.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39201] [/url]
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.07.27 23:43:00 - [4] Originally by: SlowMovingFisherman Drones = ghetto slums of eve, doesn't matter whats going on there. Those slumlords sure are raking in the dough though. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Bobby Atlas Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 02:41:00 - [5] Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. Try not to blow up anymore of your manufacturing POS's in the process. The drone lands are dead, there is no more pvp within miles - alliances like IRC are hemorrhaging PvP'ers and inhaling ******s to make up for it.
Graalum Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.28 02:45:00 - [6] Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. get out of my hel already.
Kanicume Enyorwif Cherrypoppinpodders	Posted - 2008.07.28 02:49:00 - [7] Originally by: Bobby Atlas Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 quote] Try not to blow up anymore of your manufacturing POS's in the process. The drone lands are dead, there is no more pvp within miles - alliances like IRC are hemorrhaging PvP'ers and inhaling ******s to make up for it. This. These guys are ripe for the picking and frankly im not surprised the pl hac gang didnt conquer there space. Just have Oldma bring out AWE's(Not IRC'S) Titan and he will no doubt aid the hostile fleet with multiple dd's on those intrepid infidels.
BackseatShortbus Can't Tie My Shoes	Posted - 2008.07.28 03:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Bobby Atlas Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. Try not to blow up anymore of your manufacturing POS's in the process. The drone lands are dead, there is no more pvp within miles - alliances like IRC are hemorrhaging PvP'ers and inhaling ******s to make up for it. still a funny guy, I lol'd All backseat of the bus and @#$%
Blood Thorn Minmatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.28 04:16:00 - [9] Edited by: Blood Thorn on 28/07/2008 04:17:41 Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. get out of my hel already. It's MY Bloody Hel Graalum! How's Empire Bobby-Boy? Concord keeping you safe? .... [url=http://kb.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39201] [/url]
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 04:35:00 - [10] go buy my crap in b-7 you rich turds!
Graalum Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.28 04:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 28/07/2008 04:17:41 Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. get out of my hel already. It's MY Bloody Hel Graalum! How's Empire Bobby-Boy? Concord keeping you safe? i dunno atlas is probably in better shape than irc tbh.
Blood Thorn Minmatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.28 05:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 28/07/2008 04:17:41 How's Empire Bobby-Boy? Concord keeping you safe? i dunno atlas is probably in better shape than irc tbh. That's a relief. Worrying whether they had enough milk money for their school lunches was keeping me up at night. .... [url=http://kb.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39201] [/url]
Bobby Atlas Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 06:02:00 - [13] Originally by: Blood Thorn Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 28/07/2008 04:17:41 How's Empire Bobby-Boy? Concord keeping you safe? i dunno atlas is probably in better shape than irc tbh. That's a relief. Worrying whether they had enough milk money for their school lunches was keeping me up at night. Let see, officer spawns, bounty rats, epic capital fights, new friends, plentiful pvp.... yup our milk money has run out - save us farham!
The Station THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.28 06:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Blood Thorn Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 28/07/2008 04:17:41 How's Empire Bobby-Boy? Concord keeping you safe? i dunno atlas is probably in better shape than irc tbh. That's a relief. Worrying whether they had enough milk money for their school lunches was keeping me up at night. STOP POSTING
Dalek Commander	Posted - 2008.07.28 12:48:00 - [15] Originally by: Bobby Atlas I would also go as far to say that you have absolutely no objective view point to offer as AWE only goal within IRC is is to use the rest of the alliance as a facilitator to AWE' own ambitions which are far and apart from those of the alliance body. You simply inhale new corps to replace those that leave due to AWE own ignorance and greed then play it off "we have not lost anyone, our numbers are still strong". When we all know the reality is, what few decent pvpers IRC had are already gone, leaving or bored out of there mind and will soon be gone. Bobby Atlas tears, oh so yummy!!11111one
Orange Faeces Minmatar xXDroneSwarmXx	Posted - 2008.07.28 13:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Bobby Atlas ... I would also go as far to say that you have absolutely no objective view point to offer as AWE only goal within IRC is is to use the rest of the alliance as a facilitator to AWE' own ambitions which are far and apart from those of the alliance body. You simply inhale new corps to replace those that leave due to AWE own ignorance and greed then play it off "we have not lost anyone, our numbers are still strong". When we all know the reality is, what few decent pvpers IRC had are already gone, leaving or bored out of there mind and will soon be gone. Wow... still running your mouth after all that fail... All we need in here now is some bs posts from dastomy... /me holds breath OF --- The Other Orange
bluebeyond MicroFunks	Posted - 2008.07.28 14:03:00 - [17] The whole of drone lands live in peace and quiet with not a sole around. Ratting all day and, well emmm do you lot PvP anymore? Or is it just sitting in D-I with a few moms and a titan on the gate and waiting for the next pod or nubship to come in? So all is blue and well atm. Well until Solar dragons and xxxxxXXXXXxxxxdeath need more space for there renters....
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 14:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Dalek Commander Bobby Atlas tears, oh so yummy!!11111one Yeah... We're crying so hard about killing that goon titan and moving to a better place on the map. (Thanks Goons!) IRC had nothing to do with us moving, so dont pat yourselves on the back too hard there moights. So I heard that IRC is furiously working on more supercaps for AWE c/d? Why dont you guys spread the wealth around? My sources tell me that the rest of the IRC laser treatement corps are pretty disgruntled also: http://www.simplehemorrhoidscure.com/irc-hemorrhoid.php
ICHBIN 5THCYLON	Posted - 2008.07.28 14:30:00 - [19] Comrades of the atlas alliance, please stop posting for your own good. Im a neutral observer, and the way it looks is like this: Atlas/chaos pew pew against IRC/ED for months, having a good time. ----- Atlas/chaos then decides they want to win, and bring in the atlas/chaos/roadkill/smash/fix/V/some-other-fail alliances-blob. ----- Atlas/chaos-blob really owns IRC/ED since they have about 3 times the numbers. ----- IRC/ED decides they dont want to loose their space so they call solar wing/XXDEATHXX and goons and say "HEY, we now got about the same numbers!" ----- Goons loose a titan to smash/roadkill and some atlas gets on the mail, titans are worth about 40b or something. ----- Atlas alliance are the first to surrender, WITHOUT EVEN FIGHTING, and running to empire. ----- IRC/ED/GOONS/RUSSIANS take about 15 stations, each station cost about 25m if im right? So goon group loose about 40b and atlas/smash/roadkill group loose about 15x28b, im not good at math but i really think the goon titan loss is nothing compared to about 15 stations. ----- In the end of the day, atlas are sitting in empire, after being the first to bail on their coalition and running away BEFORE THEY EVEN LOST A SINGLE STATION. And I say again, I never was involved in the IRC/ED vs ATLAS war, but have friends who were, so please atlas stop making yourself look even worse. You started the blobbing, you got blobbed back and you ran away when the shit got tough. Mad props for not loosing that many members after going back to empire though, but just stop with the forum warrioring, since you after all is another failed 0.0 alliance who instead of dying after loosing it space is doing lvl 4 missions in empire.... Cheers, and sorry about my spelling, english aint my primary language.
Bobby Smyth 54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 15:05:00 - [20] If you want to know what is going on in the Drone regions feel free to drop me a convo. -------------------------------- Bobby Smyth Chief Diplomat - Thorn Alliance Chief Executive Officer - 54th Knights Templar
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 15:11:00 - [21] Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON Comrades of the atlas alliance, please stop posting for your own good. Im a neutral observer, and the way it looks is like this: Atlas/chaos pew pew against IRC/ED for months, having a good time. ----- Atlas/chaos then decides they want to win, and bring in the atlas/chaos/roadkill/smash/fix/V/some-other-fail alliances-blob. ----- Atlas/chaos-blob really owns IRC/ED since they have about 3 times the numbers. ----- IRC/ED decides they dont want to loose their space so they call solar wing/XXDEATHXX and goons and say "HEY, we now got about the same numbers!" ----- Goons loose a titan to smash/roadkill and some atlas gets on the mail, titans are worth about 40b or something. ----- Atlas alliance are the first to surrender, WITHOUT EVEN FIGHTING, and running to empire. ----- IRC/ED/GOONS/RUSSIANS take about 15 stations, each station cost about 25m if im right? So goon group loose about 40b and atlas/smash/roadkill group loose about 15x28b, im not good at math but i really think the goon titan loss is nothing compared to about 15 stations. ----- In the end of the day, atlas are sitting in empire, after being the first to bail on their coalition and running away BEFORE THEY EVEN LOST A SINGLE STATION. And I say again, I never was involved in the IRC/ED vs ATLAS war, but have friends who were, so please atlas stop making yourself look even worse. You started the blobbing, you got blobbed back and you ran away when the shit got tough. Mad props for not loosing that many members after going back to empire though, but just stop with the forum warrioring, since you after all is another failed 0.0 alliance who instead of dying after loosing it space is doing lvl 4 missions in empire.... Cheers, and sorry about my spelling, english aint my primary language. lol empire... I dont know where you guys get your info, your friends in IRC perhaps? Yeah pretty neutral there.. It was usually a pretty even fight at first, then we had to bring in lesser and lesser numbers to get them to "bring it" Soon the only way we could provoke a response was by dropping a tower (at first in outlying systems, then in their station systems themselves). We wanted a fight and thats it, no matter what your "friends" tell you. Or what spews from the goon propoganda machine. Some people started joking around about reselling the system to ED and I think thats where the takover rumor started. We were gunning for the xxdeath and the solar titans, the goon titan was a suprise. As for who was on the killmail, it was truncated or you would have seen the other 200 pilots on there as well. Your argument on the station losses may be accurate isk wise, but we TOOK most of those stations from others. They cost us nothing but the sov towers and the ammo we used to take them (from the ATLAS perspective anyway). Why diddnt we line up and die to the RED blob like good lemmings? Cause it diddnt make any sense to do so. We came out with the kills we wanted, our capital fleet intact. Moving most of our membership to a new area with bounty / faction / officer rats, with plenty of targets we dont have to coddle? Priceless! I'd take that "loss" anyday. /me strokes chelm's modified cap recharger. oh baby!
ICHBIN 5THCYLON	Posted - 2008.07.28 15:35:00 - [22] Edited by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON on 28/07/2008 15:37:22 Edited by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON on 28/07/2008 15:36:11 Originally by: TroNaaR Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON Comrades of the atlas alliance, please stop posting for your own good. lol empire... I dont know where you guys get your info, your friends in IRC perhaps? Yeah pretty neutral there.. It was usually a pretty even fight at first, then we had to bring in lesser and lesser numbers to get them to "bring it" Soon the only way we could provoke a response was by dropping a tower (at first in outlying systems, then in their station systems themselves). We wanted a fight and thats it, no matter what your "friends" tell you. Or what spews from the goon propoganda machine. Some people started joking around about reselling the system to ED and I think thats where the takover rumor started. We were gunning for the xxdeath and the solar titans, the goon titan was a suprise. As for who was on the killmail, it was truncated or you would have seen the other 200 pilots on there as well. Your argument on the station losses may be accurate isk wise, but we TOOK most of those stations from others. They cost us nothing but the sov towers and the ammo we used to take them (from the ATLAS perspective anyway). Why diddnt we line up and die to the RED blob like good lemmings? Cause it diddnt make any sense to do so. We came out with the kills we wanted, our capital fleet intact. Moving most of our membership to a new area with bounty / faction / officer rats, with plenty of targets we dont have to coddle? Priceless! I'd take that "loss" anyday. /me strokes chelm's modified cap recharger. oh baby! So what your saying is that IRC/ED stopped fighting after you brought the Roadkill/smash/atlas/chaos/fix/V/pets blob? what a suprise! And now you have abandoned your space and your friends, without even fighting (yes you pulled out as soon as goons/russians came, even though your coalitions had about the same numbers) and moved to empire/npc space, yea thats real good. And your cap fleet intact? HIGH FIVE! The only reason its intact was because you didnt dare to use it against a competent enemy, you, like the rest of the wannabe pvpers only want to use caps when you have a 100% chance of not loosing them. (your even pointing out that you are a carebeare because you got faction loot, "I dont care if I loose my space and the respect of both my former friends and enemies aslong as i got chelm's modified cap recharger!") So in the end of the day, all Im saying is you should stop forum warrioring. Atlas members was the loudest during the blobbing of IRC/ED systems, atlas were the ones who whined when IRC/ED didnt "bring it" (you even whined about it about it in your last post) Atlas members were the first to bail when IRC/ED-coalition dfd "bring it". Dont get me wrong, carebears are needed to keep the eve universe running, but carebears who lost all their space, bailed on their friends and basicly lost everything shouldnt be on the forum telling everyone that "omg omg IRC/ED sucks they dont have any pvpers left!"
Kal'Kalagan Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.07.28 15:46:00 - [23] IRC/ED/XDeathx/Solar & allies were equal'ish numbers to Smashkill/Atlas/Fix/V & allies. I doubt the numbers were exact of course but the fleet figths were fairly even. IRC and allies had more in the lwo euro timezones while Smashkill & allies had morein the late euro and US timezones. I think that fight could have lasted for some considerable time. However Goonswarm opened up a 2nd front in Geminate and Smashkill recalled their forces to defend. A wise decision as Geminate was the key to the Smashkill/Atlas jumpbridge network that resupplied all of their (and Fix/V's) forces throughtout the drone regions. Basically Geminate had to be defended at all costs. As a result dronr region posessions had to take second priority. Atlas/Fix/Veritas could have stayed and tried to make a fight of it on out own but our cap force was far inferior to the IRC/ED/Solar/xDeathx cap force without Smashkills assistance, it would have been expensive suicide to attempt a defense - we all knew this. So Fix/V/Atlas & co all pulled back to Geminate to assist Smashkill in the fight vs Goons. What followed though was a failiure cascade at leadership levels. Veritas for example found ourselves kicked from the intel channels, Roadkill admitted this was a mistake but had no one around for several days to add us back to the allowed list. Leadership level errors and inactivity such as this pretty much killed of the coalition and any chance of making a unfiied defense vs Goons.
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.28 15:57:00 - [24] Edited by: TroNaaR on 28/07/2008 15:59:24 Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON So what your saying is that IRC/ED stopped fighting after you brought the Roadkill/smash/atlas/chaos/fix/V/pets blob? what a suprise! That was before Fix and V genious. What I'm saying is that we had to take more and more steps to get them to fight. Cause most of the time we would engage with inferior numbers, and still win. Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON And now you have abandoned your space and your friends, without even fighting (yes you pulled out as soon as goons/russians came, even though your coalitions had about the same numbers) and moved to empire/npc space, yea thats real good. Our friends are right here with us. What friends are you speaking of exaclty? Everyone knows the drone regions suck, no one regrets moving except a few miners... Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON And your cap fleet intact? HIGH FIVE! The only reason its intact was because you didnt dare to use it against a competent enemy, you, like the rest of the wannabe pvpers only want to use caps when you have a 100% chance of not loosing them. Are you saying IRC Suck? man thats low. I always had great respect for IRC. (Especially farham). GUYS LETS GO LOSE ALL OUR CAPS FOR THIS LITTLE SHITTY CHUNK OF REALESTATE! YEAH! Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON (your even pointing out that you are a carebeare because you got faction loot, "I dont care if I loose my space and the respect of both my former friends and enemies aslong as i got chelm's modified cap recharger!") Uhh.. its Officer loot. And it just sold so I'm rich! woo (PS that means I dont have to surf the roids for like a year)((especially since I'm not allowed to rat in ATLAS space anymore)) . (Need Price Check on Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic Unit) Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON So in the end of the day, all Im saying is you should stop forum warrioring. Atlas members was the loudest during the blobbing of IRC/ED systems, atlas were the ones who whined when IRC/ED didnt "bring it" (you even whined about it about it in your last post) Atlas members were the first to bail when IRC/ED coalition indeed "bring it". Smash was the loudest. You were there, you should know. You never would have unleashed that Titan to our forces cause we would have shoved it back down your throat. I'm not whining. I know you guys miss us, and well... I wish we could say the same... Originally by: ICHBIN 5THCYLON Dont get me wrong, carebears are needed to keep the eve universe running, but carebears who lost all their space, bailed on their friends and basicly lost everything shouldnt be on the forum telling everyone that "omg omg IRC/ED sucks they dont have any pvpers left!" Man those carebears sure ****ed you up. Says alot really... <3
Aneu Angellus Caldari Revival.	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:02:00 - [25] Drones are dying, people are crying, but how about you? ________________ REVIVAL
smurfslayor Minmatar SUBLIME L.L.C. SUBLIME CREATIONS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:02:00 - [26] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan IRC/ED/XDeathx/Solar & allies were equal'ish numbers to Smashkill/Atlas/Fix/V & allies. I doubt the numbers were exact of course but the fleet figths were fairly even. IRC and allies had more in the lwo euro timezones while Smashkill & allies had morein the late euro and US timezones. I think that fight could have lasted for some considerable time. However Goonswarm opened up a 2nd front in Geminate and Smashkill recalled their forces to defend. A wise decision as Geminate was the key to the Smashkill/Atlas jumpbridge network that resupplied all of their (and Fix/V's) forces throughtout the drone regions. Basically Geminate had to be defended at all costs. As a result dronr region posessions had to take second priority. Atlas/Fix/Veritas could have stayed and tried to make a fight of it on out own but our cap force was far inferior to the IRC/ED/Solar/xDeathx cap force without Smashkills assistance, it would have been expensive suicide to attempt a defense - we all knew this. So Fix/V/Atlas & co all pulled back to Geminate to assist Smashkill in the fight vs Goons. What followed though was a failiure cascade at leadership levels. Veritas for example found ourselves kicked from the intel channels, Roadkill admitted this was a mistake but had no one around for several days to add us back to the allowed list. Leadership level errors and inactivity such as this pretty much killed of the coalition and any chance of making a unfiied defense vs Goons. sounds about right to me tbh
Faekurias Black Legion Command	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:03:00 - [27] Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. In difference to using DD's from ibises. -----------------------------------
Farham Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:37:00 - [28] Revisionist history is always fun. Drone regions are fine. They are just in post 9 month war clean up and reorg. Any larger alliance needs a small set of downtime to steer the big ship.
Blood Thorn Minmatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:58:00 - [29] Originally by: Faekurias Originally by: Blood Thorn Edited by: Blood Thorn on 27/07/2008 22:45:25 Everytime we turn around, rogue drones are respawning. In the belts, on the gates, sometimes even off the stations. No matter how hard folks work at eradicating them, they keep coming back. We have begun using DDT (Dooms Days from Titans) in an attempt to keep the numbers down, but only time will tell if we are successful. Thank you for your kind thoughts and prayers for our well being. In difference to using DD's from ibises. LOL, I know. I was trying to be clever with the DDT reference. Lesson learned. .... [url=http://kb.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39201] [/url]
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:13:00 - [30] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan IRC/ED/XDeathx/Solar & allies were equal'ish numbers to Smashkill/Atlas/Fix/V & allies. I doubt the numbers were exact of course but the fleet figths were fairly even Anyone that was there (and that can use the Alliance ranking) knows there was no equal numbers. Fleet fights were even (not exactly our blame here), and it's true we were more concentrated on the defensive end (hey, we were less)... But they were more before FIX and V joined them, they were more after they joined, and they were more after FIX left (only then, they were all in Geminate) As for corps leaving IRC... what corps? I honestly don't remember any corp leaving IRC in the last months. As for losing members, unless I've missed it, I saw no great amount of people leaving (at least, I see the same people on the Vent channels, and new people too)

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