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Kal'Kalagan Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.07.28 12:39:00 - [1] Well I'm at work and can't log into Eve to try myself, so please can those who are tersting the proposed changes on Sis today give us their opinions ...? Kal.
Tregaron Minmatar We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.28 12:42:00 - [2] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Well I'm at work and can't log into Eve to try myself, so please can those who are tersting the proposed changes on Sis today give us their opinions ...? Kal. Theres no new patch out on there so changes ain't out yet???
Akyla Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.07.28 12:43:00 - [3] Yeah, I'm also quite curious. Especially with respect to the use of afterburners in PvP now. Will an AB-Vagabond be scary? AB-assault ships? etc... ________________________________ All your honey are belong to us!
Kal'Kalagan Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.07.28 12:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Tregaron Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Well I'm at work and can't log into Eve to try myself, so please can those who are tersting the proposed changes on Sis today give us their opinions ...? Kal. Theres no new patch out on there so changes ain't out yet??? "We are fully aware that such complex changes can have unforeseen results, especially since such an agglomeration of them is difficult to test without the participation of a large number of players. Thus, we urge you to log onto Singularity (our test server) this Monday, July 28TH to give them a spin and spare us no feedback or thoughts on these issues. We're allocating a long time (a month or more) to oversee the changes because we are open to further tweaks, based on your suggestions."
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2008.07.28 12:44:00 - [5] server status could be patching now so people can play soonÖ All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
Tregaron Minmatar We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.28 12:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Akyla Yeah, I'm also quite curious. Especially with respect to the use of afterburners in PvP now. Will an AB-Vagabond be scary? AB-assault ships? etc... basicly the only thing you'll see diffrent with the vaga is you want be doing 13k m/s with faction fit and lg snakes but more like 8k m/s apart from that basic vaga should do 4k np :)
The Economist Logically Consistent	Posted - 2008.07.28 13:30:00 - [7] Edited by: The Economist on 28/07/2008 13:31:15 Originally by: Tregaron Originally by: Akyla Yeah, I'm also quite curious. Especially with respect to the use of afterburners in PvP now. Will an AB-Vagabond be scary? AB-assault ships? etc... basicly the only thing you'll see diffrent with the vaga is you want be doing 13k m/s with faction fit and lg snakes but more like 8k m/s apart from that basic vaga should do 4k np :) Vaga breaking 4k/s [which I guess means just 4.something] from CCP Dionysus: Vagabond: High: nothing Med: 10mn microwarpdrive Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2 Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2 *Implants. full snake set.* CSM: This so called council got elected by 5.7% of the player base! (12678 votes) Who the hell are they going to represent???
Drona Renta	Posted - 2008.07.28 13:35:00 - [8] Edited by: Drona Renta on 28/07/2008 13:36:00 Originally by: The Economist Edited by: The Economist on 28/07/2008 13:31:15 from CCP Dionysus: Vagabond: High: nothing Med: 10mn microwarpdrive Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2 Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2 *Implants. full snake set.* what that like a lost of 50% with that setting in EFT you get over 7km/s
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.28 13:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Drona Renta Edited by: Drona Renta on 28/07/2008 13:36:00 Originally by: The Economist Edited by: The Economist on 28/07/2008 13:31:15 from CCP Dionysus: Vagabond: High: nothing Med: 10mn microwarpdrive Low: Overdrive Injector System II x2 Rigs: Auxilliary thrusters II x2 *Implants. full snake set.* what that like a lost of 50% with that setting in EFT you get over 7km/s Old snakes, 56% ish velocity, new snakes, 25% ish velocity. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Meridius Dex Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.28 13:55:00 - [10] Yeah it seems that, post-balancing, the Vaga will still be the fastest ship in the game outside interceptors, due to it's slots and rigs. And the devs did indicate that was their goal: to maintain the same proportional speed differentials between these ships as before, but with the overall speeds brought to within the scope of certain game mechanics like drones and missiles. Thus, a nano Vaga will still be the fastest HAC in the game, but will not be a total I-WIN button in terms of it's near-unstoppable escapability. -- Meridius Dex -- Amarr = EVE on Hard setting
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.28 14:46:00 - [11] Ive just been on and its **ing big insane nerf Quick figures so far PRE NERF figures have no snakes in Post nerf figures have snakes in 1st Thoughts** Even without snakes on the main server, and using them on the test server the drop is HUGE. Worse then i was expecting. Also unexpected was the big drops for inty pilots. Fits use faction/ deadspace mwds, and nano/polycarb/overdrives CYNABAL PRE NERF --- POST NERF BASE: 431 --- 517 MWD :4966 --- 3302 HEAT:7233 --- 4694 ARES PRE NERF --- POST NERF BASE: 792 --- 922 MWD :9375 --- 6108 HEAT:13666 --- 8701 Very basic figures but hope it goes some way to showing the basic effect Cheers SKUNK
Xyleya moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.07.28 14:58:00 - [12] Vagabond with 10MN MWD and 3x OD II = 3500m/sec now on SiSi. No Implants, hardwirings or rigs taken into account. .
Kal'Kalagan Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:15:00 - [13] Cheers guys - keep the actualy reports coming. Has anyone got any test server pvp experiences to report?
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:19:00 - [14] Just a suggestion. Anyone remember the old non-nano fits the old HAC's used to fit? Can anyone try them, with only an AB instead of a MWD? -
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Le Skunk Ive just been on and its **ing big insane nerf Quick figures so far PRE NERF figures have no snakes in Post nerf figures have snakes in 1st Thoughts** Even without snakes on the main server, and using them on the test server the drop is HUGE. Worse then i was expecting. Also unexpected was the big drops for inty pilots. Fits use faction/ deadspace mwds, and nano/polycarb/overdrives CYNABAL PRE NERF --- POST NERF BASE: 431 --- 517 MWD :4966 --- 3302 HEAT:7233 --- 4694 ARES PRE NERF --- POST NERF BASE: 792 --- 922 MWD :9375 --- 6108 HEAT:13666 --- 8701 Very basic figures but hope it goes some way to showing the basic effect Cheers SKUNK OK, so numbers are lower. Does that actually mean you die instantly when skirmishing? -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
Ebodhisatva The Templars Knights	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:34:00 - [16] They dropped officer stasis webifier ranges down to 20km max (was 40km) officer stasis webifier amount down to 60% max (was 75%) faction domination stasis webifier down to 50% (was 90%) @ 15km All worth crap now.
Galliana Foresta Gallente Fleeting Moments of Insanity	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Ebodhisatva Marauder Kronos get 10% bonus instead of 2% per BS skill level. so a domination now does 75% instead of 99%. This is shit tbh. Why even have the web bonus if it doesn't stop ships enough to hit them with your wtfridiculouslyslowtrackingandlargesig425mmturrets? HIRING\|KB\|PRESS
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.28 18:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Just a suggestion. Anyone remember the old non-nano fits the old HAC's used to fit? Can anyone try them, with only an AB instead of a MWD? a slight adaption i EFT warriored from a past age and tech2'd modules where appropriate (not all where on market back then): [Zealot, Nerf] Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Stamped Heat Sink Stamped Heat Sink Warp Core Stabilizer I Warp Core Stabilizer I 10MN Afterburner II J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M ----------- Yup, before nano; Hac's had WCS, cloaks cost 80mil, and bob still had dev-spawned BPO's. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF

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