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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.29 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Xerox Easy fix, make war declaration a per-player flag.
A: Your corp gets war-decced by another corp. Immediately all members of your corp and theirs are flagged, individually, as being at war.
B: One of your corpies jumps to escape the war... no such luck, he still has the war flag for the duration of this war cycle (1 week), no matter where he goes or what corp he joins (this flag does not transfer to the new corp).
C: An unknown joins the corp that's at war with you is flagged as thus, and this flag remains with that individual even if they jump corp (as stated with B) for the remaining duration of the current war cycle.
This fixes many warfare loopholes.
THIS is a fantastic idea. OP idea supported, and props given to Mister Xerox for a nice addendum.

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slam34
4th Cavalry Space Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.29 20:46:00 -
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This issue is such a no-brainer that I am surprised the OP had to even ask for support. This tactic is practically THE text-book example of a clear-cut exploit.
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Red Raider
Airbourne Demons
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Posted - 2008.07.29 21:27:00 -
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The sad part is that now that this has been brought to into the light you will see this used like mad until CCP officially announces it as an exploit or resolves the issue.
A happy gamer isnt on the forums, they are playing the game unless they have an idea that they honestly think is helping out. |

Thorradin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.30 00:40:00 -
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Should have to stay in a corp for atleast 24 hours imo, except maybe npc corps.
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Nebercanezer
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Posted - 2008.07.30 03:03:00 -
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I completely agree, I wasn't online for the war, but from what i've heard its a total exploit, and rediculous.
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Caius Augustus
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Posted - 2008.07.30 07:27:00 -
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The suggestion of a per player war flag, perhaps as kills rights during a war, sounds like a pretty good solution to the situation. That way, you get to streamline the application process, allow for quick transfer of players from corp to corp, AND solve this issue with warring exploits.
That being said, I completely support the cause.
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Blancanieves
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:46:00 -
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I support the OP. -
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Steven 187
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:10:00 -
[38]
i agree with desert viper.
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bigpip
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:12:00 -
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I also completely agree with desert viper.
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Sonya Shaw
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:20:00 -
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I agree with desert viper, this is an exploit.
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LILJOE
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:22:00 -
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i agree this is an exploit.
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Jadekitten
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Posted - 2008.07.30 17:33:00 -
[42]
i agree total exploit.
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Ebisou
StoneFist Pilots
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Posted - 2008.07.30 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Fahtim Meidires
Got it. Add a step to the application process that forces pilots to be docked up to join a corporation:
1) pilots applies 2) CEO or director accepts application and sends offer 3) Pilot docks in a station and accepts offer, immediately joining corporation
I always wondered why this wasn't the process. It also allows pilots to send out multiple applications, wait a week, then pick the corporation they like best.
This is what I would like to see. The problem with this "exploit" is the complete surprise attack that can happen when an application is accepted and the guy next to you can become a war target at the time of his choosing.
Having to dock to accept the employment offer would definately fix this.
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Witch
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Posted - 2008.07.31 01:34:00 -
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I agree this is an exploit. If you choose to join a corp that is in a war you should be made to stay in that corp till war is over period. |

Fahtim Meidires
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.31 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ebisou
Originally by: Fahtim Meidires
Got it. Add a step to the application process that forces pilots to be docked up to join a corporation:
1) pilots applies 2) CEO or director accepts application and sends offer 3) Pilot docks in a station and accepts offer, immediately joining corporation
I always wondered why this wasn't the process. It also allows pilots to send out multiple applications, wait a week, then pick the corporation they like best.
This is what I would like to see. The problem with this "exploit" is the complete surprise attack that can happen when an application is accepted and the guy next to you can become a war target at the time of his choosing.
Having to dock to accept the employment offer would definately fix this.
Yes, it's much easier than changing an entire mechanic or warfare. It used to be implemented, so just put it back.
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Jack Gilligan
THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.31 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 31/07/2008 01:42:40 Support, as this is an obvious exploit. But honestly, the whole war mechanic itself needs to be looked at. It's completely broken and doesn't at all serve any purpose anymore, and is basically only used for griefing.
Wars should be between corps and/or alliances, have a beginning, a goal, and an end. For example, if you wardec a 0.0 alliance, you should have to show your face in their space once in awhile if you want to maintain the war, instead of sitting in empire like a coward.
--- My opinions are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my corp or alliance. |

Termour
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Posted - 2008.07.31 04:18:00 -
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i also support this
needs to be an exploit
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Silent Deviant
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Posted - 2008.07.31 04:34:00 -
[48]
All though this subject was covered two days earlier> http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=833233 This thread is getting more attention, so I will post here in agreement that this is an exploit and needs to be fixed. The 24 hour waiting time for joining and leaving a corp gets my vote. This will prevent quick easy kills and the quick kill avoiding that is going on. |

Red Calypso
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Posted - 2008.07.31 07:44:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Red Calypso on 31/07/2008 07:44:47 I too agree that this should be considered an exploit and that it needs to be resolved.
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Dasfry
Demio's Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.31 18:25:00 -
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This fix is way way ez.
Simply make so u can't be fully accepted until your docked.
The accepting corp could "accept" your application but it won't go into effect until you dock.
Problem solved. *********** Dasfry, CEO Demios Corporation
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.31 18:45:00 -
[51]
WHichever Gm you talked to must have been daft.
Leaving a corp to avoid wardec and rejoining later is a bannable offense, and thats clearly what he's doing.
Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
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Hottie McGee
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.31 19:33:00 -
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i agree with the thread title, i didn't read the text 
even if they can leave the corp, but remain a target until the wardec is over, i don't see a problem with that.
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tazmania2
Southern Pride
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:56:00 -
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i agree this needs to be fixed right away
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Desert Viper
StoneFist Pilots
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Posted - 2008.08.07 01:58:00 -
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bump bump ----------------------------------------------- Alone i am only a man, but together, we are a force unstopable |

Desert Viper
StoneFist Pilots
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Posted - 2008.08.07 02:00:00 -
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bump ----------------------------------------------- Alone i am only a man, but together, we are a force unstopable |

Fortune Taker
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Posted - 2008.08.10 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: Fortune Taker on 10/08/2008 04:48:35 I support this to the fullest extent
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WishBlade
League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.08.10 08:47:00 -
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Edited by: WishBlade on 10/08/2008 08:52:43 I totally agree with this. I mean, I have switched out of a warring corp myself due to logistics, or diplomatic reasons regarding the main corp, but using it as war tactics to evade, and counter is an exploit.
Originally by: Mister Xerox Easy fix, make war declaration a per-player flag.
A: Your corp gets war-decced by another corp. Immediately all members of your corp and theirs are flagged, individually, as being at war.
B: One of your corpies jumps to escape the war... no such luck, he still has the war flag for the duration of this war cycle (1 week), no matter where he goes or what corp he joins (this flag does not transfer to the new corp).
C: An unknown joins the corp that's at war with you is flagged as thus, and this flag remains with that individual even if they jump corp (as stated with B) for the remaining duration of the current war cycle.
This fixes many warfare loopholes.
This is a bit too drastic, seeing as the same mechanic works for corps leaving alainces at war, where they engage a 24 hour end period during which they are still at war. This could be implemented towards characters doing so. it would be, as with corps, a "surrendering act by the player" Aweseomenessness |

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.08.10 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Solanthus LightBringer This is using game mechanics in a way that is not intended. This is an exploit.
Agreed. Ask to get this bumped to a senior GM as the GM you've been in contact with is incorrect. This is an exploit by the very definition of the word that CCP uses.
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Methos Lathandurr
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Posted - 2008.08.13 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Methos Lathandurr on 13/08/2008 01:49:59 Edited by: Methos Lathandurr on 13/08/2008 01:49:08 I totally support this.
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Esten Lathandurr
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Posted - 2008.08.13 01:50:00 -
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Totally support this. (Sorry forget to hit support topic)
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