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Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.07.29 17:39:00 - [31] Originally by: SuiJuris Edited by: SuiJuris on 29/07/2008 17:32:36 Originally by: BABARR Quote: Frigate fleets? Hey true, frig whith AB just going to be able to kill BS cause : "The 60% web is just a BIG JOKE" Thanks CCP for this big nerf of battleship and blasterboat (going to be fun to tackle a target whith a blasterBS who go at 700m/s whith a 60% web) Originally by: BABARR Quote: i also expect some megathron\phoon magic Don't dream, the web and MWD nerf simply kill the blasterboat. Whith a 60% web and large gun against a AB HAC you are now simply F UC KED. Or you are too slow and don't web enought to catch your target, Or the HAC come under 1000m and you don't have enought tracking to hit him well cause your web at 60% is just a BIG JOKE. The nerf wo come is not a Nano-nerf. It's a nerf to all user of close range setup, and mainly a nerf against BS. It's also a nerf against solo pvp, we are going to need to be 2 or 3 on a gate to catch a solo BS, cause whith the web at 60% it's easy to get back at the gate and jump. Your forgetting that Battleships can fit SmartBombs, and HAVE drone Bays.... Drone bays are troublesome but not insurmontable obstacles. Smartbombs however dictate the NEW minimum range for combat - 6km. Of course they don't do fantastic DPS per but 80 or so DPS is generally quite disuasive to most frigates. The Tankier AF's could survive at that range but only for as long as their cap holds out. Honestly It's nice to see the smartbombs having a use again. All I use them for is drone killing.
Ebodhisatva The Templars Knights	Posted - 2008.07.29 17:43:00 - [32] [VOTE] All AGAINST The Nano-Nerf [VOTE] All FOR The Nano-Nerf
Rika Arkenana Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.29 17:52:00 - [33] Nerfing the Webbers is one of the best things to come out of this patch. It brings back other smaller ships that have all but been forgotten.
Thorek Ironbrow Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:05:00 - [34] Edited by: Thorek Ironbrow on 29/07/2008 19:06:59 I personally would have tweaked the web differently. I would make the web so that the less mass the target ship has, the more effect the web takes on it. Holy shit, we're about to enter a Smartbomb age. Screw tracking, I'm up loading my Rokh for a Disco Party! ____________________________ Originally by: Elirel this thread is about serious Internet Spaceship stuff. [/
VJ Maverick Caldari Splinter Cell Alfa	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:13:00 - [35] I'm LOVING the new changes. They have breathed new life into close-range combat. With the old system, combat was so static - move into web range, web each each other and slug it out until one person dies. Now, close range maneuvering and sig radius actually count for something. Thanks , CCP! One question. Does anyone know if webs can still be stacked on a single target? Telling your girlfriend that you play EvE is like telling her about your herpes. Timing is everything.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:15:00 - [36] Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow I would make the web so that the less mass the target ship has, the more effect the web takes on it. WAIT WHAT? you want to make small ships useless? The proposed changes we have now are way over the top, some of them are plain stupid, but your suggestion is just wrong
Thorek Ironbrow Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:27:00 - [37] Originally by: P'uck Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow I would make the web so that the less mass the target ship has, the more effect the web takes on it. WAIT WHAT? you want to make small ships useless? The proposed changes we have now are way over the top, some of them are plain stupid, but your suggestion is just wrong It's just right and you know it... ____________________________ Originally by: Elirel this thread is about serious Internet Spaceship stuff. [/
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:30:00 - [38] No, it's not, and you should know that. We want small ships to be able to be used again, even in webrange. That's what CCP said, and even the people that dont want the proposed changes can agree on that. You're going in the opposite direction, you kill off small ships, and on top of that... fix nothing.
Thorek Ironbrow Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:40:00 - [39] Bugger! Rumbled! Back to lair, Number 2! ____________________________ Originally by: Elirel this thread is about serious Internet Spaceship stuff. [/
DarthJosh DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:01:00 - [40] Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow Bugger! Rumbled! Back to lair, Number 2! Im gonna boi this :) - Desusigs!
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:10:00 - [41] wait a sec, did i miss the sarcasm or something like that
UGLYUGLY Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:35:00 - [42] Edited by: UGLYUGLY on 29/07/2008 22:35:55 The blaster boat issue. Most gallente ships are blessed with additional/utility mids slots. Fit a second web instead of that sensor booster. P.s. I love this new nerf, in all it's wonder =D
NateX The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:43:00 - [43] Introduction of the ECM age.... --
baron corrino Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.07.30 02:08:00 - [44] Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 29/07/2008 16:10:30 Originally by: Yaro yep...its going to be brilliant, nerf nanos as soon as possible, and the only thing you are going to see is BIG BLOB VS BIGGER BLOBS VS F>>>>G HUGE BLOBS. It will mean one thing, land in a blob and receive your free pod express to cloning facility ! Smaller alliances and smaller corps will be truly screwed, because they will not have even a single chance to pvp, because it will mean that blob vs blob. Bring a scout? Black Op's? Frigate fleets? It never used to be this way man. There was a time when eve didnt go this fast. We relied on our Guns and Tactics to win. -il add further, people that 'blob up' always are dumbed down in pvp, everyones alone in space at some point and if there caught by a capable solo pvp'er they will go down very easy because they are not battle hardenered from relying on there gang mates. There shaking from the rush, making mistakes and the other chaps done it a thousand times before. I agree, this is the time for pilot's to man up again. Hopefully, with this course of direction, reintroduction of AS, Destroyers being able to track their intended target, newer pilots to eve will be able to engage more in pvp. And not feel they have to 'blob up' to compete. The blob doesn't teach you how to be a better pilot, your just a cog in a mass clusterF@@k! like dear Kessah says. (hi Honeybunny.. long time no see <3) I have been around for about 5 years now, and I'll quote the one real truth of EvE... 'ADAPT OR DIE!' I'm even seriously reconsidering not leaving EvE for good in October when my Sub finishes. Fingers crossed tbfh.
Rumai Ning	Posted - 2008.07.30 06:07:00 - [45] O LAWD, CALDARI'S RANGE BONUS WILL BE USEFUL. WE ARR DOOMED I TELL YA.
Thorek Ironbrow Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.07.30 07:55:00 - [46] Originally by: DarthJosh Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow Bugger! Rumbled! Back to lair, Number 2! Im gonna boi this :) Lol what does that mean? ____________________________ Originally by: Elirel this thread is about serious Internet Spaceship stuff. [/
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:24:00 - [47] \o/
Tony Allizzar Phoibe Enterprises Ascendo-Tuum	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:50:00 - [48] I cant wait for the nerf, I had to give up PVP cuz i was sick of having a deck of nannos and a MWD bolted to every ship.undock, find a target, orbit, he who slower die god it made me sick. bored the hell out of me. Im hoping to a retern to good old tactics and inventive fittings.
Thorek Ironbrow Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:39:00 - [49] I'm hoping that Artillery and Railguns get boosted soon. And then stay boosted. ____________________________ Originally by: Elirel this thread is about serious Internet Spaceship stuff. [/
Annowyn Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:47:00 - [50] I endorse this product/service.
DarthJosh DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.30 11:54:00 - [51] Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow Originally by: DarthJosh Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow Bugger! Rumbled! Back to lair, Number 2! Im gonna bio this :) Lol what does that mean? fixed :p - Desusigs!
DarthJosh DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.30 11:55:00 - [52] Originally by: Tony Allizzar I cant wait for the nerf, I had to give up PVP cuz i was sick of having a deck of nannos and a MWD bolted to every ship.undock, find a target, orbit, he who slower die god it made me sick. bored the hell out of me. Im hoping to a retern to good old tactics and inventive fittings. aye mate, whats lovely bout these new changes is that they're broad and sweeping, which will definitely balance things out. and bring back the good ol` days :) - Desusigs!
Dryxonedes Sae Real Nice And Laidback Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:42:00 - [53] Yep, gotta agree this "nerf" seems to be looking good. With "reasonable" nav skills, and a set of 3% rogues, I can still push an Ishtar to 2204m/s. Considering in that fit it still bangs out 460 odd dps (ogre 2's), without gang skills, without snakes, without a command ship, that's MUCH more reasonable than the 3600'ish I can get on tranq at the moment. The above compounds in with making ranged specialist ships/characters actually useful again. Whine away nano-folk, I look forward to this with much anticipation. And for sure, I'll still polycarb up things if the shoe fits. ** Where's the problem? It's called natural selection - The bottom of the **ing food chain. -Denis Leary
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:53:00 - [54] Originally by: DarthJosh Edited by: DarthJosh on 29/07/2008 16:42:58 Originally by: BABARR Quote: you speak as if webbing an ishtar thats doing 8kms with a 90% to get it down to 800-1k speeds was any better! Yes, cause atm a MWd's BS going at more than 1km/s and a ishtar who go at 8km/s using a MWd so he have a big signature radius, if you web him, he die. oh my god ok, i'll entertain you some more. this is your argument parsed: Quote: if you web him then he die. endif did you ever try to web a nano pilot doing 8kms? or even 6kms? how many people did it take you to kill them? also, sidenote: at those speeds, sig radios is mostly rendered irrelevant. Yes. And not that many. If you get on top of them, they really can't go anywhere.
ILikeTastyPie Digital assassins	Posted - 2008.07.30 13:24:00 - [55] Wow guys you have 2 pages already! Keep it up!
Terraform Gallente Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.07.30 13:48:00 - [56] Originally by: UGLYUGLY Edited by: UGLYUGLY on 29/07/2008 22:35:55 The blaster boat issue. Most gallente ships are blessed with additional/utility mids slots. Fit a second web instead of that sensor booster. P.s. I love this new nerf, in all it's wonder =D or... fit an ab together with the MWd and activate if your mwd gets shut down, tadaaa, you're now flying FASTER than the other person
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:57:00 - [57] Originally by: DarthJosh Am i the only one excited to have pre-nano age tactics brought back ?:) Nope. I'm excited aswell. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage
Liang Nuren No Salvation	Posted - 2008.10.07 18:04:00 - [58] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: DarthJosh Am i the only one excited to have pre-nano age tactics brought back ?:) Nope. I'm excited aswell. I'm excited too! My Cruise and Torp Ravens are going to PWN YOUR MOFO FACE hahahaha And mY Drake is going to be unstoppable and all those stupid hac s that mae furn fo me are goignt o pay whiel I PWN THEM HAHAHA TSUPDID FOTMers!!!!!! Next I wtrain amarr so I pwn face moar! -Liang --
Dizeezer Velar Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.10.07 18:43:00 - [59] Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 07/10/2008 18:43:13 Originally by: BABARR Quote: i also expect some megathron\phoon magic Don't dream, the web and MWD nerf simply kill the blasterboat. Whith a 60% web and large gun against a AB HAC you are now simply F UC KED. Or you are too slow and don't web enought to catch your target, Or the HAC come under 1000m and you don't have enought tracking to hit him well cause your web at 60% is just a BIG JOKE. The nerf wo come is not a Nano-nerf. It's a nerf to all user of close range setup, and mainly a nerf against BS. It's also a nerf against solo pvp, we are going to need to be 2 or 3 on a gate to catch a solo BS, cause whith the web at 60% it's easy to get back at the gate and jump. boom, nail on the head. It's what i've been saying for some time. The web nerf is a SEVERE nerf to small gang pvp. Really, as hardcore as people say this game is, its hard enough to get a decent fight as its 80%+ at a freaking gate or station. People will be able to dock or jump out too easily, and yes to top it all off its a big nerf to blasterboats as well. Screw the web nerf.
slothe Caldari Murky Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.07 18:44:00 - [60] amen the whines of the nanofotms are music to my ears.

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