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Venomae
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.29 12:57:00 -
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I saw this mentioned in some of the "speed" threads and it looks like a pretty good idea. Everyone knows actions speak louder than words. So why cant the devs make a "guerilla" gang on Sisi (could be really small sized) and try to do the usual stuff with it in cooperation with few experienced players who will play the "other side". Actually show us how this is supposed to work. Show us you actually have some reasoning and arguments for this and not just "it felt like a good idea".
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The Blinded
GK inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 12:59:00 -
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Oh please god, make this happen.
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Vengal Seyhan
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:05:00 -
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Just remember the no podding rule, mkay? No matter how frustrated you are that they own you because they've had more time to understand the new system better. :D
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Ion Hound
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:10:00 -
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SIGNED |
Jeats Cheats
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:25:00 -
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I would love to see this happen
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Matrixcvd
Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Venomae I saw this mentioned in some of the "speed" threads and it looks like a pretty good idea. Everyone knows actions speak louder than words. So why cant the devs make a "guerilla" gang on Sisi (could be really small sized) and try to do the usual stuff with it in cooperation with few experienced players who will play the "other side". Actually show us how this is supposed to work. Show us you actually have some reasoning and arguments for this and not just "it felt like a good idea".
impossible! that means the dev's would need to know how this game is actually played to select a team to help investigate the play style... its sorta sad but hilariously ironic that the very people put in charge of protecting the integretity of the game have no clue and are about to destroy it
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Jufi Wekior
Arachnid Logistics
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Matrixcvd
Originally by: Venomae ...
impossible! that means the dev's would need to know how this game is actually played to select a team to help investigate the play style... its sorta sad but hilariously ironic that the very people put in charge of protecting the integretity of the game have no clue and are about to destroy it
Challenge them and prove you're right. Actions speak louder then words .
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:46:00 -
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/signed but have a FC fluent in nanogang work lead them. -
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Tomic
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:47:00 -
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this sounds like a great idea, I'd happily participate in this.
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Tomic
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.29 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari /signed but have a FC fluent in nanogang work lead them.
I'll get angel down and she'll do it :D
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.29 14:05:00 -
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I'm glad I'm not a dev. Because people who kept insulting my intelligence on these forums, especially the one's who make wholesale assumptions, would find themselves in tough spots. You can only insult someone's job so many times.
Its like telling a waitress that your meal sucks and you want a new order. You might feel like it's the 'right' thing to do, but when your food comes from that kitchen, you don't know what the hell happened to it.
Some people don't know when to hold their tongue, though. Oh, well. I'm almost hoping that this nerf hits live harder than it is on SiSi, simply because of all the smart*sses throwing insults on these boards. Won't teach you a lesson, no. Some people won't learn.
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.29 14:07:00 -
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By the way, isn't Guerrilla warfare about assaulting a force in a weak spot, in a manner that will guarantee victory while cause the utmost impact?
Practical example would be swooping in, destroying a battleship, then leaving. Seems that you can't test the 'fairness and balance' of the unfair fighting tactics of a hit-and-run assault group.
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Jafflek Haeton
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Posted - 2008.07.29 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jafflek Haeton on 29/07/2008 23:10:19
Originally by: Ruze I'm glad I'm not a dev. Because people who kept insulting my intelligence on these forums, especially the one's who make wholesale assumptions, would find themselves in tough spots. You can only insult someone's job so many times.
Its like telling a waitress that your meal sucks and you want a new order. You might feel like it's the 'right' thing to do, but when your food comes from that kitchen, you don't know what the hell happened to it.
Some people don't know when to hold their tongue, though. Oh, well. I'm almost hoping that this nerf hits live harder than it is on SiSi, simply because of all the smart*sses throwing insults on these boards. Won't teach you a lesson, no. Some people won't learn.
So you're saying we shouldn't be allowed to express an opinion on whether or not we like a change CCP is making to a game that only exists because we continue to pay for it, incase they spunk in our lunch?
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.29 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 29/07/2008 23:18:33
Originally by: Jafflek Haeton So you're saying we shouldn't be allowed to express an opinion on whether or not we like a change CCP is making to a game that only exists because we continue to pay for it, incase they spunk in our lunch?
Maybe that's what happening right now, some major lunchspunking
I for one would like to wholeheartedly express my apologies for everything remotely hostile I might have said, ever, about CCP. edit; no rickroll, I swear by my ISK.
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Sepheir Sepheron
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sepheir Sepheron on 30/07/2008 01:08:11
Originally by: Tomic
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari /signed but have a FC fluent in nanogang work lead them.
I'll get angel down and she'll do it :D
I killed Angel's nightmare when I was 6 months old, she's not a good pilot.
Otherwise, signed.
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CCP Tenitigo
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Posted - 2008.07.30 09:23:00 -
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I like this idea!
I'll see what can be done about getting something similar together :)
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.07.30 09:35:00 -
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I'd be happy to either proof fast ships can still work or nano ships no longer work (red, blue, i'm colour impaired anyways, drop me in any team) if this will be done.
As for the other side of this, this is obviously made to show nano ships are now broken beyond use, sadly the nano***s (and use the term to indicate the group that actually are nano***s, not just anyone going fast) don't see the damage they do. So while you might be able to show the devs what you want them to see, you will never see what the rest of us have seen.
Vagabonds doing 8km/s on a basic cheap set up is not balanced, they can now do 5km/s, deal with it.
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Shamharoth
Gallente Beach Boys BeachBoys
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:06:00 -
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Someone care enough to set up a jump bridge/cynojammer/capital support on SiSi? Because you just won't have a clue otherwise lol.
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WeightedCompanionCube
Aperture Science Enrichment Center
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:14:00 -
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Remember the "Guerillas" are the ones using top of the line equipment here like real world elite troops. Their "Regular Army" opponents will be using poor weapons like actual guerillas do.
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Tainted OrPHeN
Tainted Retribution
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:39:00 -
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/signed ---
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:48:00 -
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Someone fraps this, please. Zzz research towers Direrie NEW: Liekuri
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Drgnvale
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Drgnvale on 30/07/2008 11:50:45 Signed, I'm very interested in helping here.
Originally by: Keitaro Baka
Vagabonds doing 8km/s on a basic cheap set up is not balanced, they can now do 5km/s, deal with it.
This isn't the thread for this discussion, but I won't let this exaggeration go without being called out. Basic t2 RIGGED vagabonds (not cheap if you are using polys) fit sensibly on tq hit 5-6km/s depending on number of damage mods and which implants you have. Now they go ~3.5km/s on sisi (even adjusting for new optimal speed fit).
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Eloryan Persago
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:12:00 -
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Seems a good idea, you get a "Team A" together and tell us when we should make a "Team B"
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Matrixcvd
Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze I'm glad I'm not a dev. Because people who kept insulting my intelligence on these forums, especially the one's who make wholesale assumptions, would find themselves in tough spots. You can only insult someone's job so many times.
Its like telling a waitress that your meal sucks and you want a new order. You might feel like it's the 'right' thing to do, but when your food comes from that kitchen, you don't know what the hell happened to it.
Some people don't know when to hold their tongue, though. Oh, well. I'm almost hoping that this nerf hits live harder than it is on SiSi, simply because of all the smart*sses throwing insults on these boards. Won't teach you a lesson, no. Some people won't learn.
actually this senario is like going to your favorite restaurant to see they hired some ret3rd who dumped hot coffee, stabbed you with dirty silverware, and tried to bum 20 bucks off you before even seating your party...
If they nerf the game to the point of it not being fun for a vast majority of players, the joke will be on them, its their job and hopefully people will go hungry when thinking about "the giveth and taketh" comments next time.
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Entaran
Caldari Excession Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:27:00 -
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I failed the part where the "vast majority" of the game are nanopilots.
Infact, I think maybe the vast majority of the vocal minority are, but otherwise? No.
The -vast- majority of this game burn l4 missions and mine/refine/shoot npcs. 0.0 doesn't even equate to around 20% of the active playerbase i'd make a bet.
And with CCP reeling in over 1m a month USD from sub's I dont' think they overly care about 100 people leaving in protest. Go play wow or something, whine more.
Actually, on a side note, i was out ganking earlier today and Outbreak is already changing their gang setups to use less nano's. Why can't you?
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Pattern Clarc
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:32:00 -
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I'll humbly accept this mission
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Doctor Byttner
Fleeting Moments of Insanity
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:43:00 -
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I like this idea...
I am a near perfected Gallente Gankthron pilot but also have near perfect long range (220km) railgun Sniperthron abilities.
I would be very interested in testing the gankthron aspect specifically as it appears there could be a major shift in the tactics required to make this an effective tool of war.
I am particularly interested in examining the MWD accelerate / top speed / decelerate effects in gangwar. Specifically when it involved getting bumped by smaller ships which is troublesome enough as it currently stands but could be much worse with these changes...
I will bookmark this thread and follow it frequently.
Great idea. "Hell hath no fury like 3 women scorned... or mine."
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:45:00 -
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i just canceled 4 accounts and set long skills training. if they get a grip before sisi changes go into tq i might renew. if not i ll just do some thing else for a couple of months and check back later.
i really cant be arsed to do any more testing.
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Dark Flare
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Keitaro Baka I'd be happy to either proof fast ships can still work or nano ships no longer work (red, blue, i'm colour impaired anyways, drop me in any team) if this will be done.
As for the other side of this, this is obviously made to show nano ships are now broken beyond use, sadly the nano***s (and use the term to indicate the group that actually are nano***s, not just anyone going fast) don't see the damage they do. So while you might be able to show the devs what you want them to see, you will never see what the rest of us have seen.
Vagabonds doing 8km/s on a basic cheap set up is not balanced, they can now do 5km/s, deal with it.
WTS: Clue.
A cheap Vagabond does not do 8km/s. Polys, T2 MWD, T2 Overdrives will do 5.xkm/s. All of EVE does not have snakes.
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The Blinded
GK inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mira O'karr i just canceled 4 accounts and set long skills training. if they get a grip before sisi changes go into tq i might renew. if not i ll just do some thing else for a couple of months and check back later.
i really cant be arsed to do any more testing.
Noone cares. Either sign up for this or go cry into some other thread.
(too bad my char is too lame to sign up for this :/ )
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