Originally by: Venomae

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I saw this mentioned in some of the "speed" threads and it looks like a pretty good idea.
Everyone knows actions speak louder than words. So why cant the devs make a "guerilla" gang on Sisi (could be really small sized) and try to do the usual stuff with it in cooperation with few experienced players who will play the "other side".
Actually show us how this is supposed to work. Show us you actually have some reasoning and arguments for this and not just "it felt like a good idea".

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Originally by: Matrixcvd

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Originally by: Venomae

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impossible! that means the dev's would need to know how this game is actually played to select a team to help investigate the play style... its sorta sad but hilariously ironic that the very people put in charge of protecting the integretity of the game have no clue and are about to destroy it

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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari

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/signed but have a FC fluent in nanogang work lead them.

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Originally by: Ruze

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I'm glad I'm not a dev. Because people who kept insulting my intelligence on these forums, especially the one's who make wholesale assumptions, would find themselves in tough spots. You can only insult someone's job so many times.

Its like telling a waitress that your meal sucks and you want a new order. You might feel like it's the 'right' thing to do, but when your food comes from that kitchen, you don't know what the hell happened to it.

Some people don't know when to hold their tongue, though. Oh, well. I'm almost hoping that this nerf hits live harder than it is on SiSi, simply because of all the smart*sses throwing insults on these boards. Won't teach you a lesson, no. Some people won't learn.

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Originally by: Jafflek Haeton

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So you're saying we shouldn't be allowed to express an opinion on whether or not we like a change CCP is making to a game that only exists because we continue to pay for it, incase they spunk in our lunch?

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Originally by: Tomic

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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari

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/signed but have a FC fluent in nanogang work lead them.

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I'll get angel down and she'll do it :D

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Originally by: Keitaro Baka

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Vagabonds doing 8km/s on a basic cheap set up is not balanced, they can now do 5km/s, deal with it.

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Originally by: Ruze

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I'm glad I'm not a dev. Because people who kept insulting my intelligence on these forums, especially the one's who make wholesale assumptions, would find themselves in tough spots. You can only insult someone's job so many times.

Its like telling a waitress that your meal sucks and you want a new order. You might feel like it's the 'right' thing to do, but when your food comes from that kitchen, you don't know what the hell happened to it.

Some people don't know when to hold their tongue, though. Oh, well. I'm almost hoping that this nerf hits live harder than it is on SiSi, simply because of all the smart*sses throwing insults on these boards. Won't teach you a lesson, no. Some people won't learn.

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Originally by: Keitaro Baka

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I'd be happy to either proof fast ships can still work or nano ships no longer work (red, blue, i'm colour impaired anyways, drop me in any team) if this will be done.

As for the other side of this, this is obviously made to show nano ships are now broken beyond use, sadly the nano***s (and use the term to indicate the group that actually are nano***s, not just anyone going fast) don't see the damage they do. So while you might be able to show the devs what you want them to see, you will never see what the rest of us have seen.

Vagabonds doing 8km/s on a basic cheap set up is not balanced, they can now do 5km/s, deal with it.

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Originally by: Mira O'karr

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i just canceled 4 accounts and set long skills training. if they get a grip before sisi changes go into tq i might renew.
if not i ll just do some thing else for a couple of months and check back later.

i really cant be arsed to do any more testing.

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Originally by: Bad Borris

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ppl need an armageddon month to assess the changes tbh.

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Originally by: Xofii

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This is being tested in small scale at sisi atm, need moar ppl though. First try, hac gang won. Second run with the groups reversed will soon commense.

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Originally by: Xofii

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This is being tested in small scale at sisi atm, need moar ppl though. First try, hac gang won. Second run with the groups reversed will soon commense.

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Originally by: Toman Jerich

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So when you say "HACs won", do you mean in terms of ISK lost?

If the defenders lose a couple of insured BS and BC, that costs a lot less than losing several HACs.

Can you provide some more details about the tests, like how many were on each side, what ships they were in, and what got blown up on each side?

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Originally by: Dark Flare

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Originally by: Keitaro Baka

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I'd be happy to either proof fast ships can still work or nano ships no longer work (red, blue, i'm colour impaired anyways, drop me in any team) if this will be done.

As for the other side of this, this is obviously made to show nano ships are now broken beyond use, sadly the nano***s (and use the term to indicate the group that actually are nano***s, not just anyone going fast) don't see the damage they do. So while you might be able to show the devs what you want them to see, you will never see what the rest of us have seen.

Vagabonds doing 8km/s on a basic cheap set up is not balanced, they can now do 5km/s, deal with it.

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WTS: Clue.

A cheap Vagabond does not do 8km/s. Polys, T2 MWD, T2 Overdrives will do 5.xkm/s.
All of EVE does not have snakes.

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