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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.07.31 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: Sidewayzracer
Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it.
no such thing as perma jamming only you being a completly unlucky tit 
yes there is...jam chance is a simple division problem. if the answer = 1..perma jam.
LOL ur an idiot. Plz actually learn how ecm works before you post, whine and be a general asshat whos posting made up loads of BS.
ecm is always chance based, can never =1. poudly annoying fc's since 2007
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.07.31 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it.
ahh yeah there is..
-fof -smartbombs
plz go away. And post with ur main so i can link u in eve and go pop u mining in low sec poudly annoying fc's since 2007
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.08.05 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it.
Aye they are overpowered plz nerf them.
I havnt even bothered training for a t2 ecm scorp to a falcon coz i know a nerf is imminent lol. But its needed poudly annoying fc's since 2007
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: tuxsmouf ship. During a battle of several ships, if your ship has a anti-jam strengh > 14, almost no falcon pilot will be able to perma jam you (for me it's 100% of the time).
Most bs's have over 14 jam strength. I know of many a time where perma-jamming a bs occurs. They simply put another ecm mudule against them if 1 fails lol
and think about how much weaker a gang of about 8 with a non-caldari recon is if it goes up agaisnt a similar size ganf but they have a falcon..The first one is almsot gaurenteed death.
tell me thats not overpowered. poudly annoying fc's since 2007
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.08.18 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: BiggestT on 18/08/2008 13:03:47
Originally by: Derek Sigres Nano whines are a great example - how many times have you actually fought a Vagabond going 12km/s? I KNOW it's possible to get a Vaga to go that fast but, let's face the music here - not MANY players have the billion isk or two required to pull it off.
This.. For example ill show u some typical vaga engagements ive had..
1 we killed in a blob 2 engaged me in a rater raven once, 1 escaped when backup came while one got ninja'd by a freindly hughin and popped 2 (noobs probably) were too silly to get out of range of my nueting scorp and were hence popped by drakes n cerbs (lol) 1 was a real bastard, we had a nine man gang and cldnt hit him for buckleys, we had webber ceptors, the works, all hed do is pop the ceptors and keep speed tanking us..he got away when dt struck..(we had no minmi recon )
While im all too happy to see that last situation dissapear from the possibilities in EVE, in all truth their not that overpowered, i think ppl just need to fight them more than once with a proper gang and then see if they get owned again before they whine..
Oh and dont nerf falcons (just so im not derailing hehe)
edit: typo
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.09.25 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Angelic Eviaran
Originally by: Dray CCP have just announced the new combat/ECM/speed overhaul, you're all saved, to summarize for you and save you reading the devblog the basic gist of the changes are as follows.
1. Fleets form up and face off. 2. Total number of nano boats, ecm boats, and regular standard fleet setups is calculated against the numbers of each side involved. 3. The numbers once calculated are used for no purpose. 4. The 2 fc's play tic tac toe to decide the outcome.
Please do me a favour f**k off, your constructive "I got owned in nano/ecm/im just sh1t at the game circumstances, are going to kill eve.
The game is only broken when there is no effective counter, this just in, there is an effective counter.
Youre so full of it. There is a good counter to falcons: FALCONS. There is also a good counter to nanos: NANOS. Guess what, nanos are getting nerfed. Catfish?
You have no idea, just coz ur silly little ship got jammed by a falcon DOES NOT mean its overpowered! Oh And the best counter for a curse is..another curse! Oh whaddya know seems a trend with the recons. Maybe that means its not so outrageous afterall  Awesome EVE history
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.09.26 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: BiggestT on 26/09/2008 08:18:22
Originally by: Sokratesz Oh god is this thread still alive. OP is so full of excrement its unfunny.
this. Its funny that all the whiners are ppl that have never flown ecm ships and dont know a thing about them. Oh unless they "claim" to have a falcon alt x) (in which case they wldnt be so vocal) Awesome EVE history
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: sdthujfg
Originally by: BiggestT
Oh unless they "claim" to have a falcon alt x) (in which case they wldnt be so vocal)
Not everyone is so thick headed and childish that they cant demand a nerf on something they can fly. You know half of eve flies these things, youre just a n00b that wouldnt be able to kill anything at all without your falcon alt. L2P mate.
I dont have a sinlge alt..check me on bob killboards if ive never killed anything then x) Im betting this is one of the ecm-nerf-activistas from earlier that we shut down, whos now made an alt to hide behind. You argue against people much more experienced and knowledgable than you for the sake of arguing.
Congratulations, due to your pathetic insults and lack of coherent arguments, ccp will likely side with us in thinking the falcon isnt the overpowered "iwin" button that every1 is saying it is.. Awesome EVE history
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev Edited by: Borat Sangdiev on 26/09/2008 14:45:00
Originally by: Sokratesz Quantity is not quality. You know that, too, and your propaganda campaign to get the falcon nerfed will fail.
The fact of the matter is that it's just not fun to fly the damned things and they are becoming a "mandatory" ship in fleets now. Talk to most veteran falcon/ecm ship pilots.
Wow that argument is moot. HIC's are mandoatory in fleet ops, shld they be nerfed too? Oh and all these nerf falcon posts are coming from idiots that mostly have never used ecm at all, and upon getting jammed one day, screamed NERF! Like the carebear-whiners in EVE do.
If they ACTUALLY tried to counter them ie fof (a cerb with fof and mwd can ruin a falcons day), snipers, eccm etc then you (and many other whiners) wldnt have been made to look such a fool. Awesome EVE history
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
You need to calm down. You've got your space panties in a knot. ECM needs to be adjusted, not eliminated.
Lol, nice burn i must admit.
While I think that falcons arent excactly overpowered, i do think that some re-adjustments could help ease the anger of many a jammed pilot, without completing skrewing/revamping ecm ships.
The best idea ive seen is ecm stacking on single targets, discouraging multiple-ecm on one ship, so the ship has a much higher chance of contributing to the fight if a jam misses, especially if they fit eccm..
It also means that falcons would still be effective in fleets by jamming only one target for each mod etc.
Though im happy with no change, this change beats the hell outta some other suggestions out there.. Awesome EVE history
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BiggestT
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Posted - 2008.09.28 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: sdthujfg
Originally by: baltec1 Just wondering, why has every falcon run away from my lone bomber over the last week if they are so overpowered?
I would also like to know why ECCM works in reducing a falcons effectivness vs my geddons while others in here get jammed constantly.
Equaly I would like to know what it is I am doing right because falcons dont impact me as much as others in this threadnought...
But most importantly. If I can counter falcons while you lot cant why can I not get a slowboat to kill a nano
Because you fail at eve.
You fail..just everything Awesome EVE history
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Posted - 2008.09.29 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lubomir Penev
Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
Personally I think ECCM should short the ECM ship - disable its locking for 20 seconds upon failer of jamming.
Felix for CSM! While I do favor personally ECM jamming mods (maybe just the offensive ones, maybe all active mods) instead of breaking locks I can't help but find your proposal hilarious.
This is redicoulous, why then shldnt Sensor boosters be able to do this against damps? Or a counter for nos? Or td's? LOL
CCP wont employ that. I personally prefer (if any) the change so that ecm stacks on single targets.. Awesome EVE history
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