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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 31/07/2008 15:05:23
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Sokratesz itt: lots of ignorance and idiots shouting NERF NERF NERF
now that less people will be fitting webs with the coming change, this frees up mids for eccm
Lol. Other way around. Less mids because now they have to fit twice as many webs. Where do you Caldari get this stuff?
Did it occur to mr. smartypants that i might have more characters than a caldari main? I can see people fitting ab + scrambler instead of disruptor + web + mwd on their ships because that combo offers a new perspective to pvp..and it clears up a mid.
Every single time ECM is discussed everyone acknowledges the existence of ECCM, yet at the same time blatantly refuses to fit it..what the hell is wrong with you?
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Blob loses to bigger blob.
Blob is overpowered.
Tank loses to more tank.
Tank is overpowered.
DPS loses to more DPS.
DPS is overpowered.
Nanos lose to more nanos.
Nanos are overpowered.
ECM loses to more ECM.
ECM is overpowered.
Etc.
repeat till game becomes wow
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Blob loses to bigger blob.
Blob is overpowered.
Tank loses to more tank.
Tank is overpowered.
DPS loses to more DPS.
DPS is overpowered.
Nanos lose to more nanos.
Nanos are overpowered.
ECM loses to more ECM.
ECM is overpowered.
Etc.
Actually you totally misunderstood me.
DPS specced fleet can easily die to ewar heavy fleet. A BS blobs can easily die to 20 bombers or ewar heavy fleet or a sniper fleet. Tank can easily die to some neuts and ranged fleet.
Nano fleets were only tackled and killed by bigger nano fleets effectively. That is the MOST effective way to KILL another nano fleet.
To counter an ECM heavy fleet you bring MORE ECM. To counter 5 falcons you bring 10. It is the BEST counter.
It is wrong.
to counter ten falcons all you need to do is fit a single eccm each..
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
LOL.../falls off chair.
what, are you too stupid to respond or too baffled to admit that eccm has uses too?
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
LOL.../falls off chair.
what, are you too stupid to respond or too baffled to admit that eccm has uses too?
I thought it's rather obvious i was baffled that you believed your own rhetoric.
do tell
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:18:00 -
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Great, just goes to show how serious you take the issue.
Ever tried fitting eccm? It works, and does so bloody well.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:23:00 -
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borat: stop posting already..apart from amusing us, you're not doing much good
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Borat Sangdiev Inappropriate language. ~Saint
reported..lets see if theyll ban you for that
lol wahh. /emowristslash
why dont you troll some more about it? doesnt seem like you have any other daily activities.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Out of topic, but I love your "1v1?" Sig, Sok
thank you, if you want a good sig, go to Nova Z, she's really good :)
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:37:00 -
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did borat get banned btw? he hasnt posted in a whopping 8 minutes now
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:11:00 -
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It's really sad to see people time and time again denying the fact that ECCM's actually work. They do, and they reduce jam chances to 50% of what they were. No single other mod in-game offers that sort of combat advantage.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Sokratesz It's really sad to see people time and time again denying the fact that ECCM's actually work. They do, and they reduce jam chances to 50% of what they were. No single other mod in-game offers that sort of combat advantage.
Why would I fit eccm on ALL my ships when I can get ONE falcon pilot with caldari jammers to nullifi several other falcons? THAT is really sad to see, that people are denying that fact. Really.
I'm not denying that. I'm merely saying that spending alot less ISK and alot less effort will net you similar results.
And a falcon has a pretty darn high sensor strength to begin with..(28pts), so unless you get veyr lucky you won't be 'shutting down' more than one of them unless you're loaded on racial jammers.
Stop trolling and turning everything personal.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.08.12 13:04:00 -
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If the number of falcons is small enough, they wont be able to do anything to a 20 man fleet that will be significant. If the number is large enough, they possibly could, which is when fitting an eccm on every ship is becoming very much worth it.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 06:04:00 -
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Oh god is this thread still alive. OP is so full of excrement its unfunny.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: sdthujfg
Originally by: BiggestT
Oh unless they "claim" to have a falcon alt x) (in which case they wldnt be so vocal)
Not everyone is so thick headed and childish that they cant demand a nerf on something they can fly. You know half of eve flies these things, youre just a n00b that wouldnt be able to kill anything at all without your falcon alt. L2P mate.
your tears, they are delicious. -10 for hiding behind an alt.
falcon is not overpowered, learn 'random' and 'eccm' plx
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 26/09/2008 09:49:57
Originally by: sdthujfg
Whats the matter tri boy? Afraid that after they nerf your easy mode nano i win buttons you wont be able to dominate with rr BS + falcon gangs? I know how your game time card run fleet/chars work. Go play tough in the special kids sandbox.
Also I like to hide behind an alt because the things I need to say to people like you doesnt look well coming out of my main. Dont blame me, youre the one forcing me to say thing like this.
Haha I totally won the bet that you would respond with something like that. Thanks!
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: sdthujfg
Originally by: Sokratesz
Haha i totally won the best that you would something like that. Thanks!
As I said, logic and sentences like that belong in the special kids sandbox.
Sorry I was laughing too hard at your incompetent bitterness to be able to type coherently.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: sdthujfg
Originally by: Sokratesz
Sorry I was laughing too hard at your incompetent bitterness to be able to type coherently.
Youre the bitter one. You know the nerfs are coming and when they come you can think about this discussion we had and think "wow was I wrong".
If they do come then it's because of some weird decision at CCP, not because of your whiny rants. Whether or not 'the nerfs' are 'coming' changes nothing about this 'discussion' (which to be honest doesn't deserve that name, its more of a collection of outcries from the incompetent).
TRI play the game our way, sometimes that's successful, sometimes it isn't. At least it beats crying on the forums because one is unable to see past the lengths of their noses.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: sdthujfg
Originally by: Kale Kold Falcons should definately be nerfed.
One Falcon can render an entire fleet useless at 200km range! That's UNBALANCED!!!
fixed.
The thought that there is actually another human being at the other end of this tube spewing complete ******ed-ness is hilarious.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: sdthujfg
Originally by: Sokratesz
The thought that there is actually another human being at the other end of this tube spewing complete ******ed-ness is hilarious.
cute. Now I know this is getting to you for real.
Nono it's spelled 'fo real', keep up with the times bro.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
Originally by: Sokratesz Oh god is this thread still alive. OP is so full of excrement its unfunny.
Oh am I? I hardly think so. If you just opened your eyes you'd see that this thread is 25+ pages long and that alot of people agree with me, or are you just that stupid?
I see 25 pages full of absolute garbage with a lot of people of questionable credibility disagreeing on many things, lots of trolling, whining, crying and altposting.
Nothing constructive.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:41:00 -
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Quantity is not quality. You know that, too, and your propaganda campaign to get the falcon nerfed will fail.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
The fact of the matter is that it's just not fun to fly the damned things and they are becoming a "mandatory" ship in fleets now. Talk to most veteran falcon/ecm ship pilots. Most will agree that they are sick of flying the damned things because FC's always demand it.
It's an OP I-win ship for small fleets, can't deny it. I have them in my gangs all the time. Maybe when you leave denial land you'll also realize this.
My alt (which i play more than my main tbh, because hes stuck in a single ship) flies falcons. Recon ships 5, most ECM support skills at 4/5. Can't say I ever get bored of flying it, because it's risky business. Paper thin, expensive, and chance based.
You should start thinking in solutions rather than in problems. You keep whining how bad it is and keep setting up strawman arguments to support your claims..how about you start to fly something that can actually counter them..like eccm, neuts, dampeners..the possibilities are endless, yet you keep mindlessly spouting 'zomg neeeeeerf'.
It's you that should get out of denial..you're stuck in your personal vendetta against this ship..and somehow you fail to see the other options that exist.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Borat Sangdiev
lol @ damps, neuts and tbfh eccm as being effective counters.
It's typical of people in denial to play down offered solutions on the simple grounds of them being 'ridiculous'. If you fail to counter them with current in-game available tools, you fail on the grounds of your own incompetence, not because they are overpowered.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.10.03 22:54:00 -
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