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Eternum Praetorian Tupperware Party	Posted - 2008.07.29 21:49:00 - [1] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 29/07/2008 21:50:01 In big blobs they are the first ones to die. In game, you don't really see that many of them (I have actually never seen one before). As far as I can tell they deal crap DPS and don't tank well at all, and yet they can really ruin the day of a fully fitted faction battleship with all the trimmings. Very compelling . . . The trade off seems to be 0 kills for yourself, and flying support with at least 1 or 2 friends. (maybe why no one flies them?) But for pure lethality factor they are way cheap and not terrible in the SP department to fit, especially if you already fly Caldari. So I would like to here from those of you you that have flown beside them. And MAINLY, I would love to hear about fitting one For I may be buying one any day now
Lord Regulus Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.07.29 21:59:00 - [2] Edited by: Lord Regulus on 29/07/2008 21:59:16 Basically, you just fit them like big Blackbirds. Lows: Signal Distortion Amplifiers, and maybe a Gravimetric Backup Array to boost your sensor strength. Mids: a Sensor Booster or two with Scan Resolution scripts, fill the rest with Multispectral ECM. Highs: whatever you want, because you ain't shootin' s***. Smartbombs are great for getting rid of drones. Hang around with a couple of gankboats and anything you can't kill outright will most likely run away.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:38:00 - [3] Edited by: P''uck on 29/07/2008 22:39:23 Originally by: Lord Regulus Highs: whatever you want, because you ain't shootin' s***. Smartbombs are great for getting rid of drones. Well, I don't fly scorps, but how about 1-2 large smarties for aforementioned ebil drones and a wee bit of neutage so you dont need to waste a jammer on that inty (no clue if that makes sense... ) you can always load FoFs, if you dont want to manage your highslots because youre occupied with jamming, but i dont know if thats a good idea when remote reps are involved. if it works these days, and they only shoot hostiles, well... 1 dps is better than 0 dps... and if you CAN be arsed to manage your highslots, ffs, just bring some regular cruises, every little bit can help sometimes
Lord Regulus Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:40:00 - [4] Originally by: P'uck Well, I don't fly scorps, but how about 1-2 large smarties for aforementioned ebil drones and a wee bit of neutage so you dont need to waste a jammer on that inty (no clue if that makes sense... ) you can always load FoFs, if you dont want to manage your highslots because youre occupied with jamming, but i dont know if thats a good idea when remote reps are involved. if it works these days, and they only shoot hostiles, well... 1 dps is better than 0 dps... and if you CAN be arsed to manage your highslots, ffs, just bring some regular cruises, every little bit can help sometimes ^^ Also true.
Xalib Zondo Cloak and Daggers HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:55:00 - [5] Edited by: Xalib Zondo on 29/07/2008 22:55:24 Quote: The trade off seems to be 0 kills for yourself Not strictly true as you will always get on the kill mails as lock as you lock and activate your ECM in time.
DubanFP Caldari Out of Order Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.07.29 23:01:00 - [6] Edited by: DubanFP on 29/07/2008 23:01:46 Because of the high insurance payout to cost if you shop smart they're very cheap and extremely powerful. Unfortunately as you said they're always the first ship to be primaried. They just die far too often to always be replaced. This is probebly why it gets so little use. _______________ CCP Atropos > I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.29 23:03:00 - [7] Originally by: DubanFP Because of the high insurance payout to cost if you shop smart they're very cheap and extremely powerful. Unfortunately as you said they're always the first ship to be primaried. They just die far too often to always be replaced. This is probebly why it gets so little use. Well, then I guess the scorp is the only ship that can be useful with a dual buffer tank
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.29 23:48:00 - [8] I don't fly a scorp in a fleet because as it was said above it tends to get primaried...however; in small remote repping gangs it can be very effctive. Also, its a great ship for 1 vs 1 if you know what your fighting, which is rare, but it does happen. -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
ThaDollaGenerale Endless Destruction	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:36:00 - [9] Bringing a scorp to a POS shoot when your gang is BS heavy is FANTASTIC. With me on a scorp on the shoot we were able to keep them from harrassing us too much.
Tai Paktu Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.07.30 02:31:00 - [10] Well piloted Scorps in good RR gangs can be godly. Trimarks, some 1600s, EANMs, etc. Put some torps and reps in the highs and you can soak up a tonne of damage before going down, all while hitting jams and doing damage.
Jim Raynor Caldari Shinra	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:11:00 - [11] most people just fly falcons now, otherwise scorpions would be popular still falcon just does everything scorpion can do + open a cyno/covert cloak, so most times when people fly a scorpion you get told WTF go train for falcon stoopid. ------ I'll make a sig later.
d3vo The Space BorderLine United For 0rder	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Jim Raynor most people just fly falcons now, otherwise scorpions would be popular still falcon just does everything scorpion can do + open a cyno/covert cloak, so most times when people fly a scorpion you get told WTF go train for falcon stoopid. If you look at it the other way, the Scorpion has more survivability, a bit of dps, and more jammers. __________ \(^.^)/
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:24:00 - [13] Originally by: d3vo If you look at it the other way, the Scorpion has more survivability Only if actually being shot at, and I think the falcon is a LOT better at avoiding that.
Jim Raynor Caldari Shinra	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:26:00 - [14] Originally by: d3vo Originally by: Jim Raynor most people just fly falcons now, otherwise scorpions would be popular still falcon just does everything scorpion can do + open a cyno/covert cloak, so most times when people fly a scorpion you get told WTF go train for falcon stoopid. If you look at it the other way, the Scorpion has more survivability, a bit of dps, and more jammers. only thing you can do when getting hit on a jamming ship is run for your life, which a falcon does better, DPS is a non-issue since neither scorpion or falcon can mount any kind of serious offense, and yes it has 1 more jammer, not a huge deal.. covert cloak and cyno is why people fly falcons it completely outweighs any slight advantage the scorpion would otherwise have.. tbh I think the scorp could use some love, o well. ------ I'll make a sig later.
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.07.30 05:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Xalib Zondo Edited by: Xalib Zondo on 29/07/2008 22:55:24 Quote: The trade off seems to be 0 kills for yourself Not strictly true as you will always get on the kill mails as lock as you lock and activate your ECM in time. You will get on killmails, and you have weapons as well. You will help your gang a lot and a few scorpions can turn the tide by jamming 2-3 ships each. Its not good for your fleet if you all care about is killmails. Originally by: Jim Raynor most people just fly falcons now, otherwise scorpions would be popular still falcon just does everything scorpion can do + open a cyno/covert cloak, so most times when people fly a scorpion you get told WTF go train for falcon stoopid. Scorpion has more HP and also is MUCH cheaper and easier to produce than a Falcon. Sure, maybe not the world's most perfect, but hell, for something that will take a lot of heat, its nice when it costs 8 mil to replace. __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.30 06:09:00 - [16] Edited by: Soporo on 30/07/2008 06:10:00 What some of the others said. Cheap. Effective in it's role. Lots of mids to play with if you plate it and want to lolsolo/bait/leroy. A decicated good rr'er (Basilisk) will make you a serious and persistent pain in the ass. Not to mention, people seem to get into it earlier compared to the Falcon.
Mahke Carrion Crows	Posted - 2008.07.30 06:44:00 - [17] Edited by: Mahke on 30/07/2008 06:44:17 At least three SDAs in lows At least four racials (you want the range and greater effectiveness) in the mids, MWD if you're not in a stationary fleet (ie. gatecamp) (this is not for combat, but for burning back to gate, out to optimal, and the 10-second align), sensor booster. After you have this base it's all really a matter of taste with no right or wrong. If you're doing armor RR'ing you might want to replace some of the SDA's, but, havent tried that so don't know. Also, fit all t1/named, no rigs. You will be primary. You will die. You will die quickly. You will die almost all the time. Losing t2 gear that much will get very pricey fast, and a good part of what makes the scorpion so great anyway is how it can remain effective with the cheap gear it calls for. If you want a ship that dies less and fits more expensive/effective gear, look into a falcon.
Thorek Ironbrow Caldari Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2008.07.30 07:48:00 - [18] The great thing is, if you're good at your job, and there isn't too many opponents, your weapon is your tank. ____________________________ Originally by: Elirel this thread is about serious Internet Spaceship stuff. [/
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:43:00 - [19] Originally by: Lord Regulus Basically, you just fit them like big Blackbirds. Wrong ECM on the mids with some Basic tackle and a cap booster, a LAR II on the lows with SDA II's. Nos and Neuts (1 nuet then nos, kills tacklers and feeds you cap for ECM / Repper) on the highs. Drone things to death if you have the skills - its around 200DPS... which is better than nothing. The scorpion has the HP and Cap to survive longer than the blackbird and falcon - in small gang fights it can jam damage dealers and use battleship modules to cripple smaller ships - in RR gangs it can be effective also but it requires a bit of teamwork, unlike the loljammer170km falcon which basically requires suicide gank ships with 1 decent pilot in the falcon only. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Kano Sekor Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:45:00 - [20] Surprise everyone and fit an extrem shield buffer tank and then all of the sudden they realise they primaried the wrong ship and you have a tempest with shitload of surprise ecm and everyone is like "OMGWTF?! unorthodox tactics nERF!!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:58:00 - [21] Originally by: Kano Sekor surprise ecm Is that like surprise secks? ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Kano Sekor Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:29:00 - [22] Edited by: Kano Sekor on 30/07/2008 09:29:08 Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Kano Sekor surprise ecm Is that like surprise secks? Its like normal ecm just more unexpected. Example: Pilot-"OMGWFT THAT MAELSTROM IS PERMJAMMING ME!" Maelstrom pilot-"SURPRISE!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:34:00 - [23] Originally by: Kano Sekor Edited by: Kano Sekor on 30/07/2008 09:29:08 Originally by: Maeltstome Originally by: Kano Sekor surprise ecm Is that like surprise secks? Its like normal ecm just more unexpected. Example: Pilot-"OMGWFT THAT MAELSTROM IS PERMJAMMING ME!" Maelstrom pilot-"SURPRISE!" lol wut
Xalib Zondo Cloak and Daggers HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Kano Sekor Edited by: Kano Sekor on 30/07/2008 08:46:44 Surprise everyone and fit an extrem shield buffer tank and then all of the sudden they realise they primaried the wrong ship and you have a maelstrom with shitload of surprise ecm and everyone is like "OMGWTF?! unorthodox tactics nERF!!" I love out of the box thinking, and it made me laugh too, cheers
Akyla Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Kano Sekor Surprise everyone and fit an extrem shield buffer tank and then all of the sudden they realise they primaried the wrong ship and you have a maelstrom with shitload of surprise ecm and everyone is like "OMGWTF?! unorthodox tactics nERF!!" At least worth it to see the look on their faces! :D I endorse such thinking. ________________________________ All your honey are belong to us!
Eternum Praetorian Tupperware Party	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:57:00 - [26] After researching it a bit and giving it some thought, it seems to me that the scorpion is allot more versatile then I first thought. Thanks for all the replies . . . My thoughts at the moment: The Falcon (I feel) is a little to expensive for something that will go pop so easily. I know its better at avoiding fire, but I prefer a platform that can hold its own longer in small fleet engagements once everything hits the fan and it didn't quite go the way you imagined it. I also LOVE the idea of occasionally tanking the heck out of the thing and throwing people a real curve ball every now and again (thanks for the idea! hehehe) I suspect that a scorpion with maxed out skills may be better for PVP then the average person is giving them credit for. It just takes unorthodox tactics which might add more thrill and excitement to the game. And Mainly . . . it is also a good start if one might be planing to fly a Widow (black opts ship) which I am. I cant imagine a ship that would be more fun to fly, and the possibilities seem limitless in its role. A scorpion will be very good practice . . .
Dreadmuppet Four	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:58:00 - [27] [Scorpion, ecm] Gravimetric Backup Array II 'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I 'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I Damage Control II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Large YF-12a Smartbomb Large YF-12a Smartbomb Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Particle Dispersion Augmentor I Particle Dispersion Augmentor I [empty rig slot] gang with remote boosting
D'Argentus	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:41:00 - [28] Never use T2 ECM mods, including distortion amps. If you can afford it use meta 4 as it provides the same benefits as T2 but uses less cap and typically less CPU. Cap is typically an issue when running smart bombs and heavy neuts. Albeit, you will rarely run into fitting issues on a Scorpion.
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:56:00 - [29] Originally by: D'Argentus Never use T2 ECM mods, including distortion amps. If you can afford it use meta 4 as it provides the same benefits as T2 but uses less cap and typically less CPU. Cap is typically an issue when running smart bombs and heavy neuts. Albeit, you will rarely run into fitting issues on a Scorpion. T2 ECM are fine on Falcons and Scorps. neither are cap limited. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
KD.Fluffy Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:22:00 - [30] I used to fly a scorpian and scored many kills in it supporting my gang... my fit which worked so well for me was: highs : 3x siege launchers. 3x smartbombs mids: 7x jammers: I usually flew with 5 multis and 2 racials depending on what I was expecting to fight, 1x heavy cap booster : cap booster to keep smarties and jammers running even if I am getting nossed or neuted, saved me many times. lows: 2x 1600mm plate, 2x signal distortion amplifiers. Only weakness in this really is its vulnerable to other ecm ships jamming you first bc of the lack of a sensor booster. My gang had that covered though and that was never a problem for me. Its a great ship, I flew it b4 the torp buff and ecm buff too, so I imagine its even better now

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