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MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:20:00 - [1] Edited by: MaDeX on 30/07/2008 00:24:14 (Recent proposed nerf's) Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr?
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:20:00 - [2] Edited by: MaDeX on 30/07/2008 00:24:14 (Recent proposed nerf's) Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr?
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:25:00 - [3] Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:25:00 - [4] Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Imran Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. I do not doubt that my friend, i'm not entirely a speed freak, I like to poddle along around 4-5k in my vaga, im just thinking for pvp situations - am i likely to loose the only ship worth having as a minnie race in pvp.
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:31:00 - [6] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Imran Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. I do not doubt that my friend, i'm not entirely a speed freak, I like to poddle along around 4-5k in my vaga, im just thinking for pvp situations - am i likely to loose the only ship worth having as a minnie race in pvp. I'm sure you'll be fine :) The one thing that keeps me coming back to the game is the ingenuity of the players as a whole. I am really sure the vaga will continue to be one the most versitile and fun ships in the game ^o^. Atleast we can replace the OD injections with some damage mods again ^.^ and take down the silly npc ravens a little bit faster >.< __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
Demented Fury Jita Garbage Collection LTD	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:31:00 - [7] ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Demented Fury ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship. oh yeah? the hardly worth fitting long range muninn? the short tank sleipnir? rapier having the biggest nerf and the huginn?
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Demented Fury ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship. MORE TURRETS ON THE MOOOMIN PLZZ XD er an pg too __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
Jimer Lins Gallente Pod Six Research	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:35:00 - [10] The Amarr are "auto win" now? When I first started this game they were made of fail according to everyone. The pendulum swings, it seems.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:35:00 - [11] Noobs like the OP who don't know how to fly Matari should have never have been in vagas to begin with. Also, all the cool people are just about done training for the Apoc ever since it was fixed. I fully expect you to leech the new cookie-cutter setups in a few months after we've killed you a few times. Whiner threads are the worst. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Vaal Erit Noobs like the OP who don't know how to fly Matari should have never have been in vagas to begin with. Also, all the cool people are just about done training for the Apoc ever since it was fixed. I fully expect you to leech the new cookie-cutter setups in a few months after we've killed you a few times. Whiner threads are the worst. Cheers for the input, make sure you close the door on the way out ta.
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:54:00 - [13] Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. ----------------------------
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. ----------------------------
Draeca The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:08:00 - [16] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Demented Fury ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship. oh yeah? the hardly worth fitting long range muninn? the short tank sleipnir? rapier having the biggest nerf and the huginn? Minnies still got the most sexy sub-BS T1 boats, don't forget those. ___
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7
Morcam	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:48:00 - [18] Yes. The vaga is being nerfed beyond your wildest dreams. You will never be able to fly it again. The nerf is so bad, that it will now do .001 dps, and you will never be able to tank one shot. It's obvious that now the top speed with be approximately 12 m/s, and no matter what you fit, you have wasted all your isk on a useless hunk of junk. I also hope you have bought snake implants, since they are also being nerfed as well. If you bought snakes, they are now useless, and you spent billions of isk on what is now completely useless. Stop crying. You knew that it was coming, and you shouldn't have spent a lot of money on a ship you knew would get nerfed. If you DIDN'T see it coming, you are an idiot, please quit EvE. On a brighter note, I'd like to give the complementary "Your nano tears sustain me."
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:49:00 - [19] Auto-win Amarr? Wahahahaha
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 Well i see poly'd crows do 12km/s +. Corp mates vaga did 7km/s. His rapier could reach 10km/s.. when overloaded. ----------------------------
Athamai	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:24:00 - [21] Quote: my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 I'd send it back to the factory under warranty. Crow should do a lot more than that lol.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 Well i see poly'd crows do 12km/s +. Corp mates vaga did 7km/s. His rapier could reach 10km/s.. when overloaded. yea on tq they do 13 easy... but on the test server with the changes 6-7 is where they will be at....
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.30 06:06:00 - [23] yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.30 06:25:00 - [24] Im more *****y about losing my loopy scimitar :( Perma mwding , tanking, 4 weapons system AND tackle. I guess I gotta use it for what it was designed for again. :( -----------
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.07.30 07:22:00 - [25] Yes its had it, most humane thing you can do now is take it behind the barn and shoot it in the head, go on, I know its hard as hes been a loyal companion but you don't want to see him suffer right?
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.07.30 07:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 it did? jees you were doing something wrong.
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:18:00 - [27] the vaga will be and still is the most overpowreed ship in the game /ibtl
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:20:00 - [28] Originally by: Morcam Yes. The vaga is being nerfed beyond your wildest dreams. You will never be able to fly it again. The nerf is so bad, that it will now do .001 dps, and you will never be able to tank one shot. It's obvious that now the top speed with be approximately 12 m/s, and no matter what you fit, you have wasted all your isk on a useless hunk of junk. I also hope you have bought snake implants, since they are also being nerfed as well. If you bought snakes, they are now useless, and you spent billions of isk on what is now completely useless. Stop crying. You knew that it was coming, and you shouldn't have spent a lot of money on a ship you knew would get nerfed. If you DIDN'T see it coming, you are an idiot, please quit EvE. On a brighter note, I'd like to give the complementary "Your nano tears sustain me." You really should read a few posts ahead before you flame.. Ignoring this guy, i'm considering cross training now - any suggestions?
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:26:00 - [29] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want?????
Sweet Rosella	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want????? dps or a tank would be nice

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