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MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:20:00 - [1] Edited by: MaDeX on 30/07/2008 00:24:14 (Recent proposed nerf's) Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr?
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:20:00 - [2] Edited by: MaDeX on 30/07/2008 00:24:14 (Recent proposed nerf's) Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr?
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:25:00 - [3] Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:25:00 - [4] Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Imran Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. I do not doubt that my friend, i'm not entirely a speed freak, I like to poddle along around 4-5k in my vaga, im just thinking for pvp situations - am i likely to loose the only ship worth having as a minnie race in pvp.
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:31:00 - [6] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Imran Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. I do not doubt that my friend, i'm not entirely a speed freak, I like to poddle along around 4-5k in my vaga, im just thinking for pvp situations - am i likely to loose the only ship worth having as a minnie race in pvp. I'm sure you'll be fine :) The one thing that keeps me coming back to the game is the ingenuity of the players as a whole. I am really sure the vaga will continue to be one the most versitile and fun ships in the game ^o^. Atleast we can replace the OD injections with some damage mods again ^.^ and take down the silly npc ravens a little bit faster >.< __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
Demented Fury Jita Garbage Collection LTD	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:31:00 - [7] ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship.
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Demented Fury ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship. oh yeah? the hardly worth fitting long range muninn? the short tank sleipnir? rapier having the biggest nerf and the huginn?
Imran Matari Akbar	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Demented Fury ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship. MORE TURRETS ON THE MOOOMIN PLZZ XD er an pg too __________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
Jimer Lins Gallente Pod Six Research	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:35:00 - [10] The Amarr are "auto win" now? When I first started this game they were made of fail according to everyone. The pendulum swings, it seems.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:35:00 - [11] Noobs like the OP who don't know how to fly Matari should have never have been in vagas to begin with. Also, all the cool people are just about done training for the Apoc ever since it was fixed. I fully expect you to leech the new cookie-cutter setups in a few months after we've killed you a few times. Whiner threads are the worst. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Vaal Erit Noobs like the OP who don't know how to fly Matari should have never have been in vagas to begin with. Also, all the cool people are just about done training for the Apoc ever since it was fixed. I fully expect you to leech the new cookie-cutter setups in a few months after we've killed you a few times. Whiner threads are the worst. Cheers for the input, make sure you close the door on the way out ta.
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.07.30 00:54:00 - [13] Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. ----------------------------
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. ----------------------------
Draeca The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:08:00 - [16] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Demented Fury ur bad if you think vaga is the only viable matar pvp ship. oh yeah? the hardly worth fitting long range muninn? the short tank sleipnir? rapier having the biggest nerf and the huginn? Minnies still got the most sexy sub-BS T1 boats, don't forget those. ___
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7
Morcam	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:48:00 - [18] Yes. The vaga is being nerfed beyond your wildest dreams. You will never be able to fly it again. The nerf is so bad, that it will now do .001 dps, and you will never be able to tank one shot. It's obvious that now the top speed with be approximately 12 m/s, and no matter what you fit, you have wasted all your isk on a useless hunk of junk. I also hope you have bought snake implants, since they are also being nerfed as well. If you bought snakes, they are now useless, and you spent billions of isk on what is now completely useless. Stop crying. You knew that it was coming, and you shouldn't have spent a lot of money on a ship you knew would get nerfed. If you DIDN'T see it coming, you are an idiot, please quit EvE. On a brighter note, I'd like to give the complementary "Your nano tears sustain me."
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:49:00 - [19] Auto-win Amarr? Wahahahaha
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.07.30 01:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 Well i see poly'd crows do 12km/s +. Corp mates vaga did 7km/s. His rapier could reach 10km/s.. when overloaded. ----------------------------
Athamai	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:24:00 - [21] Quote: my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 I'd send it back to the factory under warranty. Crow should do a lot more than that lol.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.30 04:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 Well i see poly'd crows do 12km/s +. Corp mates vaga did 7km/s. His rapier could reach 10km/s.. when overloaded. yea on tq they do 13 easy... but on the test server with the changes 6-7 is where they will be at....
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.07.30 06:06:00 - [23] yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.30 06:25:00 - [24] Im more *****y about losing my loopy scimitar :( Perma mwding , tanking, 4 weapons system AND tackle. I guess I gotta use it for what it was designed for again. :( -----------
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.07.30 07:22:00 - [25] Yes its had it, most humane thing you can do now is take it behind the barn and shoot it in the head, go on, I know its hard as hes been a loyal companion but you don't want to see him suffer right?
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.07.30 07:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Leviathan9 Madex o/ Anyhow, i think the vaga should be fine, it just wont be going 7-8km/s + anymore, mroe like 4-5km/s which is still fast and at the speed still deadly, but alot more fragil to tackle frigs. Though you just prime those. If the vaga sucks, then well i dunno, you always got your phoon. was thinking more of a it goes 5-6km/s down to 3-4 km/s. everything stacking nerfs.... and hard Well a poly'd vaga with snakes could go 7km/s ish. But yeah my point is the ship will still be just as effective, you just need to think more tactically when flying one. my polyed crow with snakes did 6.6, so if a vaga can do 7 it did? jees you were doing something wrong.
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:18:00 - [27] the vaga will be and still is the most overpowreed ship in the game /ibtl
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:20:00 - [28] Originally by: Morcam Yes. The vaga is being nerfed beyond your wildest dreams. You will never be able to fly it again. The nerf is so bad, that it will now do .001 dps, and you will never be able to tank one shot. It's obvious that now the top speed with be approximately 12 m/s, and no matter what you fit, you have wasted all your isk on a useless hunk of junk. I also hope you have bought snake implants, since they are also being nerfed as well. If you bought snakes, they are now useless, and you spent billions of isk on what is now completely useless. Stop crying. You knew that it was coming, and you shouldn't have spent a lot of money on a ship you knew would get nerfed. If you DIDN'T see it coming, you are an idiot, please quit EvE. On a brighter note, I'd like to give the complementary "Your nano tears sustain me." You really should read a few posts ahead before you flame.. Ignoring this guy, i'm considering cross training now - any suggestions?
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:26:00 - [29] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want?????
Sweet Rosella	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want????? dps or a tank would be nice
Lily Cole	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:31:00 - [31] Also, they are only going to give it one midslot. Plus, it's only going to have 1 low slot. But it's getting a 125m3 drone bay. Though you're losing 2 highslots. Yeah, it's really taking a beating.
Sweet Rosella	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Lily Cole Also, they are only going to give it one midslot. Plus, it's only going to have 1 low slot. But it's getting a 125m3 drone bay. Though you're losing 2 highslots. Yeah, it's really taking a beating. lol
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:13:00 - [33] Edited by: Stab Wounds on 30/07/2008 09:13:59 Originally by: Sweet Rosella Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want????? dps or a tank would be nice [Vagabond, Vagabond] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Salvager I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 3000m/sec 12k of shields 620 DPS Yeah there's no problem with this ship
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:19:00 - [34] Originally by: MaDeX Edited by: MaDeX on 30/07/2008 00:24:14 (Recent proposed nerf's) Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? vaga is still very nice ship... fast (compared to others) ill probably start flying it again :D ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Vim Spook Division	Posted - 2008.07.30 09:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Stab Wounds 3000m/sec 12k of shields 620 DPS Yeah there's no problem with this ship Please, tell me how I'am supposed to hit anything with hail without having it webbed, oh thats -1xshield extender. Now tell me how I'am going to hit anything with a web and a scram abing around me... oh right, thats -1 another shield extender. I wonder what happend to my 12k of shields... My main concern is ofc my beloved thorax, the darling brutix and my doll ranis and somewhat my dear megat. I dont bother about flying 'nanos' to often, but I hate to see them go because the people who couldnt adapt, whined and gets to live.
Lt Angus Caldari Lt Angus Corp	Posted - 2008.07.30 11:28:00 - [36] Originally by: Stab Wounds Edited by: Stab Wounds on 30/07/2008 09:13:59 Originally by: Sweet Rosella Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want????? dps or a tank would be nice [Vagabond, Vagabond] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Salvager I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 3000m/sec 12k of shields 620 DPS Yeah there's no problem with this ship HAIL Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.30 11:33:00 - [37] Originally by: Stab Wounds Edited by: Stab Wounds on 30/07/2008 09:13:59 Originally by: Sweet Rosella Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want????? dps or a tank would be nice [Vagabond, Vagabond] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Salvager I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 3000m/sec 12k of shields 620 DPS Yeah there's no problem with this ship lol setup --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.30 12:48:00 - [38] Originally by: Stab Wounds Edited by: Stab Wounds on 30/07/2008 09:13:59 [Vagabond, Vagabond] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Salvager I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 3000m/sec 12k of shields 620 DPS Yeah there's no problem with this ship Lol...you get stabbed in the head? --------- If the Thorax was a car it would look like this
El Yatta Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.30 13:22:00 - [39] Originally by: Stab Wounds Edited by: Stab Wounds on 30/07/2008 09:13:59 Originally by: Sweet Rosella Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 yeah, the vagabond is supposed to be the fastest cruiser sized ship in game, so it was built for speed, it had that little edge w/ out the nerf, and even with the nerf it will still have that edge over other ships, just in smaller numbers this, it will be the fastest ship in the game still, what more do you want????? dps or a tank would be nice [Vagabond, Vagabond] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Salvager I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 3000m/sec 12k of shields 620 DPS Yeah there's no problem with this ship Bahahahhahaha, hail? Are you serious? Going into hail range with a vagabond? You're completely clueless, can we all just agree that State Protectorate are not allowed to post? That would make a lot more sense. _______________________________________________ Mercenary Forces
Prez21 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.30 13:33:00 - [40] After quite abit of testing on the test server the changes to speed are a joke, yes some speed mods needed nerfing but this is to much. Im seeing vagas on the test server getting popped with ease, i even soloed one in my ab jaguar ( the changes for AFs are one of few plus points) The scram changes would be ok on its own but with the changes in speed aswel, change the new scram from being a mod used for certain tatics into another must have mod on most ships. I wouldnt bother with the vaga at the min, minmatar have been shafted with these changes, but when i first started playing minmatar was seen as the worst race and was known as playing eve on hard mode, luckily ive trained amarr and gallente since.
Darahk J'olonar Gallente Trans Eve Organization	Posted - 2008.07.30 13:33:00 - [41] Originally by: MaDeX Originally by: Imran Originally by: MaDeX Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? My god, before the advent of the age of NANOS IN EVE. The Vaga was still awesome and will always be awesome ship. The only difference will be that your survivability will not be based on the amount of isk you spend on speed mods but actually on your intelligence as a pilot. I do not doubt that my friend, i'm not entirely a speed freak, I like to poddle along around 4-5k in my vaga, im just thinking for pvp situations - am i likely to loose the only ship worth having as a minnie race in pvp. /sarcasm on Oooh yes... I don't know how you will survive in what will still remain the fastest cruiser class ship in game! /sarcasm off
MaDeX Retribution Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:11:00 - [42] Originally by: Prez21 After quite abit of testing on the test server the changes to speed are a joke, yes some speed mods needed nerfing but this is to much. Im seeing vagas on the test server getting popped with ease, i even soloed one in my ab jaguar ( the changes for AFs are one of few plus points) The scram changes would be ok on its own but with the changes in speed aswel, change the new scram from being a mod used for certain tatics into another must have mod on most ships. I wouldnt bother with the vaga at the min, minmatar have been shafted with these changes, but when i first started playing minmatar was seen as the worst race and was known as playing eve on hard mode, luckily ive trained amarr and gallente since. thanks mate, i'll train for something else :/
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:13:00 - [43] Originally by: MaDeX Edited by: MaDeX on 30/07/2008 00:24:14 (Recent proposed nerf's) Not quite sure how this will affect my beloved vaga, I have been true to minnie ships from year 1 (even tho im gallente) Any ideas if I should park her up for the last time and train the auto win amarr? Vaga is no where near parking. If you always chase the FOTM youll always end up in misery. Just pick a race you like and fly it, through good and bad times. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name
Borasao	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:39:00 - [44] Edited by: Borasao on 30/07/2008 15:42:25 Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Vaga is no where near parking. If you always chase the FOTM youll always end up in misery. Just pick a race you like and fly it, through good and bad times. True words. I cross-trained (and switched) to Amarr 1.5 years or so ago (when they were trashed on all the boards and were supposedly full of fail) just because I liked the idea behind the ships and they looked good. Of course, now they've been buffed and everybody wants to fly them. The sad thing is, many are flying them because of an overlooked rig that's soon to be 'fixed', I'm sure... and then we'll hear their lamentations on these boards again, I suppose, as yet-another-FOTM setup is 'fixed'. The sad thing is that they'll wonder why it happened again to them... I doubt they'll learn, though.
Mortuus Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.30 15:39:00 - [45] Has anyone tried something like 3x Gyro t2, 1x DCU t2, 1x Nanofiber t2 2x LSE t2, 1x 20km disrupter, 1x AB t2 5x 425mm t2, 1x HAM t2 I would even be tempted to swap the 24km for a 9km t2 and use it as an anti turret BS ship. Occassus Republica <3
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2008.07.30 17:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Jimer Lins The Amarr are "auto win" now? When I first started this game they were made of fail according to everyone. The pendulum swings, it seems. It is just the whiners that are all high, the amarr issues are all there, few mids(fixed by blobbing), cap use (passive buffertanks removes the need to use cap to tank), and little variation in ship types (hey, chunks of steel with guns works now, and apoc got a role) The resitance changes did even things out a bit, but also favored minmatar and drone users, something everyone tends to forget. So i really don't know why amarr is all "hot" on the forums right now... Support the introduction of well thought out Amarr solutions! I believe rats should avoid you if you have high standing with them.

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