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Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:49:00 - [151] Why are we talking to this alt Riddari ? (could you remind me) JF Public Forum
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:49:00 - [152] Originally by: Jade Constantine Yawn, here we go ... its denial time. (and people wonder why its a bad idea to publish kill totals). sigh Fountain and curse liked to put up FRAPS or screenshots. In the last 24 hours I have killed: Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Trooper(thorax) Guardian Initiate(thorax) Guardian Initiate(thorax) Guardian Initiate(thorax) Guardian Initiate(thorax) Guardian Initiate(thorax) Guardian Initiate(thorax) Guardian Executor(Dominix) Guardian Executor(Dominix) Guardian Executor(Dominix) Those bounties alone are more then enough to buy every single ship you've downed at mineral cost.(excluding BB since that was a group kill) Onward interceptor w***ing!
Riddari	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:50:00 - [153] Originally by: Tainer Originally by: Riddari Originally by: Tainer Well, I for one would like to apologize for everything bad I've ever said or thought about Jade/JF. Those numbers are impressive, and no one ever lies on the Internet, do they? We don't. That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time. I guess the count's up by one, now, huh? Honestly the amount of trolls (alts or mains doesn't matter) is growing by the minute. We take on 100-1 odds, I don't think we mind very much if it's 110-1 odds. ¼©¼ a history
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:52:00 - [154] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 31/05/2004 14:06:08 Edited by: KIAEddZ on 31/05/2004 13:56:20 Congratz on your kill list Jade, lolol. You go "girl" JF are noobs in battle, common knowledge. Although it seems a couple of them have grown some balls and decided to fight, although they really need to learn how not to give ships away noob style. Luckily, or more to the point, as usual, you managed to get some support fom some big guys, As for your respect, it isnt worth the database its stored on. I can't think of a persons opinion I value less. www.bitter.com for you Jade, you were kicked from the NVA, because your mouth writes cheques, your ass can't cash. Always has done, always will do. And others have always and will always pay the heavy price for your cowardly actions. This is my final post to you. Have some fun with it. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Riddari	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:52:00 - [155] Originally by: Jade Constantine Why are we talking to this alt Riddari ? (could you remind me) I was just about to stop, it's been a while since I last had to stand up for my name and so I had some troll-battling-surplus. ¼©¼ a history
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:54:00 - [156] Originally by: Jade Constantine Why are we talking to this alt Riddari ? (could you remind me) I was hoping for more a challenge, but you are sadly lacking dear Jade.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:56:00 - [157] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 31/05/2004 13:58:03 I can't believe that Kelly muppet equates killing a load of npc drones with combat kills against an alliance that outnumbers us 100-1. I'm still kinda dazed. What's next? PA will start publishing lists of its Gurrista Raven's downed on its kill sheet? This is the reality of fighting the PA "Kelly". Taken 5mins after I downed an enemy crow. I'm willing to bet those drones you killed didn't have so many battleship friends in the next system - lol. JF Public Forum
Tainer	Posted - 2004.05.31 13:59:00 - [158] Originally by: Jade Constantine Why are we talking to this alt Riddari ? (could you remind me) Hey, everybody, free source code for your very own JadeBot!!! Dim I as Integer For I = 1 to NumberOfWaysToSuckUpToJade If Message.Content <> AcceptedPosts(I) Then Message.Post("Your an alt and we don't listen to alts .") End If
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:03:00 - [159] Quote: As for your respect, it isnt worth the database its stored on. I can't think of a persons whos opinion I value least. www.bitter.com for you Jade, you were kicked from the NVA, because your mouth writes cheques, your ass can't cash. Always has done, always will do. And others have always and will always pay the heavy price for your cowardly actions. There is nothing more cowardly than stabbing an ally in the back because you are too appallingly rubbish at fleet combat to win the fight. You couldn't beat Biomass and Forsaken Eddz, so you took the easy option, dumped Jericho and NAP'ed them. That is the truth you will take to the recycling vats with you. Quote: This is my final post to you. Have some fun with it. You have made that promise before. (but then breaking your word has never been a problem for you has it?) JF Public Forum
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:03:00 - [160] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 31/05/2004 13:58:03 I can't believe that Kelly muppet equates killing a load of npc drones with combat kills against an alliance that outnumbers us 100-1. I'm still kinda dazed. What's next? PA will start publishing lists of its Gurrista Raven's downed on its kill sheet? This is the reality of fighting the PA "Kelly". Taken 5mins after I downed an enemy crow. I'm willing to bet those drones you killed didn't have so many battleship friends in the next system - lol. I was equating the isk earned from killing them, to the isk lost to the PA you killed. Strangely enough they seem fairly equal. So you see my dear, your kill list you wont provide evidence for really doesnt matter much, it's a drop in the ocean to even a poor BS pilot. @Riddari, I read your thread as soon as it was posted and found it informative and interesting, having moved up to serpentis prime shortly after retail, and living there up until a few weeks before xan/evol came. Despite being in the new "fountain alliance" I headed down to stain, and then settled in curse(it was rather like early fountain, with the exception of sinister inc trying to form an early CA) But it has no impact on this thread.

juduzz	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:09:00 - [161] Edited by: juduzz on 31/05/2004 14:12:45 ----------------------------------------------
juduzz	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:11:00 - [162] Edited by: juduzz on 31/05/2004 14:18:05 Im confused how you can say that all jericho faction play with honor? ( im shure alot do) This comes to a conflict though when on the forums this honor seems to have degraded, honor signifies a superia status but when you match insults with your opponents this removes honor that you claim. To realy have a sense of honor one would not be throwing simple insults disguised with using woulds that by them selves would not be insulting but with the context you apear to be using them in lowers thee level of honor AND dignity to your oponent. Now of course honor has quite a few variations but all come to a root meaning of being better not going to someone elses level you consider bad and stereo typing people into one category labeling them either "alts" with out sufficient prove or justification or claiming that one certain group ( in this case alliances) believing every body that attacks them are pirates. ----------------------------------------------
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:17:00 - [163] Originally by: juduzz Im confused how you can say that all jericho faction play with honor? ( im shure alot do) This comes to a conflict though when on the forums this honor seems to have degraded, honor signifies a superia staus but when you match insults with your opponents this removes honor that you claim. To realy have a sense of honor one would not be throwing simple insults disguised with using woulds that by them selves would not be insulting but with the context you apear to be using them in lowers thee level of honor AND dignity to your oponent. Now of course honor has quite a few variations but all come to a root meaning of being better not going to someone elses level you consider bad. This always begins to happen when alts begin to post. Because they use their anonymity to avoid consquence and that inevitably leads to ridiculous posting. Kelly has admitted that her post was purely to troll. Whereas that other guy has only ever posted anti JF flames (check his posting history). Our "sin" if you like is simply stating that we don't like consquence-free unsubstantiated flamebait. Apparently the PA council has ordered that PA members don't post smack on the forums. So the natural response for cowardly PA players is to boot up their alts and second accounts and come flame in relative obscurity. You ask how I know this? Because I know the PA and I know the personalities and I know the way they act. We have discovered PA alt acts before and have discovered the PA manipulation between more than one alt war declaration and cowardly plot. Now I have publicly stated on many occassions that I think Eve would be a better game without Alts. This thread (and the derailment of others on the subject) do demonstrate that letting alts post on the forums is just plain stupid. JF Public Forum
limpy bint	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:21:00 - [164] Originally by: Jade Constantine There is nothing more cowardly than stabbing an ally in the back because you are too appallingly rubbish at fleet combat to win the fight. You couldn't beat Biomass and Forsaken Eddz, so you took the easy option, dumped Jericho and NAP'ed them. That is the truth you will take to the recycling vats with you. Maybe they couldnt but atleast they turned up to the fights unlike your corp. Your corp done the yapping and the NVA had to pay. Limpy Bint
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:22:00 - [165] Originally by: limpy bint Originally by: Jade Constantine There is nothing more cowardly than stabbing an ally in the back because you are too appallingly rubbish at fleet combat to win the fight. You couldn't beat Biomass and Forsaken Eddz, so you took the easy option, dumped Jericho and NAP'ed them. That is the truth you will take to the recycling vats with you. Maybe they couldnt but atleast they turned up to the fights unlike your corp. Your corp done the yapping and the NVA had to pay. Limpy Bint What is this ? Drag up ancient arguments day? We paid for their damn ships Limpy Bint. They were begging on their knees. And of couse. We beat you, they couldn't. JF Public Forum
Tainer	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:24:00 - [166] Assuming I am an alt (I may be, who knows?), does that make my or anyone else's arguments irrelevant? Honestly, when the majority of your posts are complaining about alts, who can take you seriously? I'd almost suspect you of being a RONA plant, seeing as how you're alienating a lot of the uninvolved EVE community from your cause.
Masor	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:28:00 - [167] Originally by: Jade Constantine What is this ? Drag up ancient arguments day? We paid for their damn ships Limpy Bint. They were begging on their knees. And of couse. We beat you, they couldn't. LOL someone pass me a needle and thread War is a game that is played with a smile. If you can't smile, grin. If you can't grin, keep out of the way till you can. The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:32:00 - [168] Originally by: Jade Constantine Quote: As for your respect, it isnt worth the database its stored on. I can't think of a persons whos opinion I value least. www.bitter.com for you Jade, you were kicked from the NVA, because your mouth writes cheques, your ass can't cash. Always has done, always will do. And others have always and will always pay the heavy price for your cowardly actions. There is nothing more cowardly than stabbing an ally in the back because you are too appallingly rubbish at fleet combat to win the fight. You couldn't beat Biomass and Forsaken Eddz, so you took the easy option, dumped Jericho and NAP'ed them. That is the truth you will take to the recycling vats with you. Quote: This is my final post to you. Have some fun with it. You have made that promise before. (but then breaking your word has never been a problem for you has it?) Jade this is utter crap i am sorry Rona-KIA had wars with Huff, Biomass and EPA in those days we had a kill to death ratio of 5:1 on battleships, and this was while your Corp was still crying about protecting their trade route so STFU and stop speaking crap
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:32:00 - [169] Originally by: Jade Constantine This always begins to happen when alts begin to post. Because they use their anonymity to avoid consquence and that inevitably leads to ridiculous posting. Kelly has admitted that her post was purely to troll. Whereas that other guy has only ever posted anti JF flames (check his posting history). Really now, where did I state my intentions were purely to troll? I accused riddari of being a hypocrite for trolling in a reply, bashing me for trolling. Is he now sharing his drugs with you?
juduzz	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:34:00 - [170] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: juduzz Im confused how you can say that all jericho faction play with honor? ( im shure alot do) This comes to a conflict though when on the forums this honor seems to have degraded, honor signifies a superia staus but when you match insults with your opponents this removes honor that you claim. To realy have a sense of honor one would not be throwing simple insults disguised with using woulds that by them selves would not be insulting but with the context you apear to be using them in lowers thee level of honor AND dignity to your oponent. Now of course honor has quite a few variations but all come to a root meaning of being better not going to someone elses level you consider bad. This always begins to happen when alts begin to post. Because they use their anonymity to avoid consquence and that inevitably leads to ridiculous posting. Kelly has admitted that her post was purely to troll. Whereas that other guy has only ever posted anti JF flames (check his posting history). Our "sin" if you like is simply stating that we don't like consquence-free unsubstantiated flamebait. Apparently the PA council has ordered that PA members don't post smack on the forums. So the natural response for cowardly PA players is to boot up their alts and second accounts and come flame in relative obscurity. You ask how I know this? Because I know the PA and I know the personalities and I know the way they act. We have discovered PA alt acts before and have discovered the PA manipulation between more than one alt war declaration and cowardly plot. Now I have publicly stated on many occassions that I think Eve would be a better game without Alts. This thread (and the derailment of others on the subject) do demonstrate that letting alts post on the forums is just plain stupid. First quote with missing sub section was when i accidentaly clicked post. Yes kelly O'conner apeared to be trolling but shurely instead of retaliating with insults back it would be more apropriate and dignified to either ignore it or even better come up witha valid counter argument. With reading posts by yourself and your fellow Jericho members you try to creat a personer of high morals and standards wether these are the case or not and these insults realy do not solidify that infact they make the oposite apear to be the case. Also claiming that all alts are PA alts is proberly unjustified, Im shure a few are but believing PA is the only faction /organisation that dosnt hold JF in the best standing would be slightly egotistical. We have all seen members flaming PA that arnt involved in this conflict thus it would make sence that the oposite would be true aswell some ppl even if they are not freinds of the PA but just dislike or have a problem with JF as we know every one has enermies and will use any chance to strike at them be it in what ever way they do it. ----------------------------------------------

Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:35:00 - [171] Originally by: Tainer Assuming I am an alt (I may be, who knows?), does that make my or anyone else's arguments irrelevant? Honestly, when the majority of your posts are complaining about alts, who can take you seriously? I'd almost suspect you of being a RONA plant, seeing as how you're alienating a lot of the uninvolved EVE community from your cause. It makes your argument irrelevent because you don't have the courage to deal with the consequences of your flaming. It makes you worthless Whereas I have am currently in a Crow in EC-P8R, posting in my own name and calling you a cowardly numpty because you don't dare back up your nonsense with action. (and lucky escape for the 20th GHST guy I almost nailed at the torrinos gate ;) How much structure did you escape with? JF Public Forum
limpy bint	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:36:00 - [172] Originally by: Jade Constantine What is this ? Drag up ancient arguments day? We paid for their damn ships Limpy Bint. They were begging on their knees. And of couse. We beat you, they couldn't. I must have been absent from that war, how many battleships did JF kill and how many did you lose, where were the battles? BTW you brought up the ancient arguments first. :P
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:49:00 - [173] Juduzz, I am sorry, I have seen this all too many times before. Really big alliances attract cowards = fact. Lots of players without the courage to stand on their own two feet join alliances, and these are guys that are poorly socialised, lack any posting discipline, and are happy to jump on a flame bandwagon at the drop of a hat. This leads to an alt-posting spree anytime there is a big issue or war. And that is what we are seeing now. That fact that PA council apparently barred you guys from posting with your mains just makes the problem that much worse. Quote: Yes kelly O'conner apeared to be trolling but shurely instead of retaliating with insults back it would be more apropriate and dignified to either ignore it or even better come up witha valid counter argument. We like to belittle alty trolls, if they are humilated hard enough they sometimes go away. Quote: With reading posts by yourself and your fellow Jericho members you try to creat a personer of high morals and standards wether these are the case or not and these insults realy do not solidify that infact they make the oposite apear to be the case. We aren't doormats to be insulted by nameless and reputation-free idiots. If they dared to bring it in-game I would shoot them with missiles. Since they never do they are shot with words. That is the reality of eve. Quote: Also claiming that all alts are PA alts is proberly unjustified, Im shure a few are but believing PA is the only faction /organisation that dosnt hold JF in the best standing would be slightly egotistical. We are generally disliked by dishonourable backstabbers as a rule of thumb. The reason some corporations don't like us is that we have a long memory and we aren't afraid to call people on lying and dishonourable behaviour. PA is an alliance of snakes. Your allegience with them demeans you. You defend oathbreakers and liars. These are hard words, I know they are hard words, and I expect that you will now make a personal choice. Either you will hate me (because its easier to hate me than to accept that your behaviour is crass and dishonourable) Or you will revise your loyalty to PA. In all likelihood I believe you will choose the first option ... it is after all the easiest. Quote: We have all seen members flaming PA that arnt involved in this conflict thus it would make sence that the oposite would be true aswell some ppl even if they are not freinds of the PA but just dislike or have a problem with JF as we know every one has enermies and will use any chance to strike at them be it in what ever way they do it. It makes sense a bit, but I have been here before. During the last big flamewar (when PA backstabbed Jericho and betrayed us) I had 3-4 weeks of the most vile real world insults hurled at me by PA members. It was flame after flame after flame. Then of course RONA and Oberon changed their mind and admitted I was right all along. 3 months from now I fully expect the same to happen. PA is in denial at the moment, and every idiot in the alliance is in reflex flame and smack talk mode. Its the way of things, I expect no better from Phoenix Alliance. JF Public Forum
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:52:00 - [174] Werent JF members of venal, and NVA? k, history lesson over, ignore everything jade says because she likes to contradict herself, and loves the phrase "oathbreaker"
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 14:58:00 - [175] Originally by: limpy bint Originally by: Jade Constantine What is this ? Drag up ancient arguments day? We paid for their damn ships Limpy Bint. They were begging on their knees. And of couse. We beat you, they couldn't. I must have been absent from that war, how many battleships did JF kill and how many did you lose, where were the battles? BTW you brought up the ancient arguments first. :P Well Limpy as you know there is only one way to score wars in Eve. Look at my corp tag, it says "JERICHO FRACTION" Look at yours, it doesn't say "FORESAKEN EMPIRE" We win. JF Public Forum
TMX	Posted - 2004.05.31 15:06:00 - [176] PA didnt backstabbed you, a alliance needs fighters to defend them selves and you dont have any fighters in youre corp so you got bootted on a nice way so stfu about backstabbing. ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge!
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.05.31 15:08:00 - [177] Originally by: TMX PA didnt backstabbed you, a alliance needs fighters to defend them selves and you dont have any fighters in youre corp so you got bootted on a nice way so stfu about backstabbing. You are a liar. Your CEO apologised for backstabbing us here on these forums, so what exactly was that about? JF Public Forum
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2004.05.31 15:24:00 - [178] And that ladies and gentlemen.... Is how the cookie crumbles. ________________________________________
Maud Dib	Posted - 2004.05.31 15:31:00 - [179] Ok I have ahd enough of this. Everybody in JF shut the hell up. What Rona, R_K etc are doing now is a mistake but I know many of them are good guys with a sense of honor. Now for R_K and allies, you guys are also talking out of your ass. First you said JF don't undock. Then you said that JF only fights in frigates whcih would mean we had to undock right? Then you said you killed two throns which mean we don't only fight in frigates right? Seriously a lot of people who are better than this are talking like retards and making **** up. There is a lot of anger about crap that should have died a long time ago. Everybody grow the hell up.
TMX	Posted - 2004.05.31 15:31:00 - [180] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: TMX PA didnt backstabbed you, a alliance needs fighters to defend them selves and you dont have any fighters in youre corp so you got bootted on a nice way so stfu about backstabbing. You are a liar. Your CEO apologised for backstabbing us here on these forums, so what exactly was that about? A CEO of a 300man corp cant represent the oppinion of all its members . ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge!



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