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TravisWB
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Posted - 2012.03.20 03:56:00 -
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As a relatively long term indy alt toon I have noticed something many of you are probably unaware of.
Hulks and the noob mining barges as well are vanishing from the game.
Our little neut alt corp is active in a couple of empires and many regions and are familiar with many rich mining areas that all have something new in common.
NO MINERS
Systems that once had heavy competitive pressure to get the ore are now mostly devoid of any miners whatsoever.
And this is a much bigger problem than many of you must understand.
Some mining/indy/missioning corps are now full time incursion farmers But the run of the mill, small corp afk mining noobs in a Hulk or two are fewer and farther between than I have EVER seen in nearly three years of play.
And these people were not bots, Bots are only in null, mining ABC around the clock.
Veldspar bots? Ice Bots, are you freaking STUPID?
Most hisec carebear miners/indys are less than 2 year old noobs that don't buy or sell isk. They usually take 6 months of hard work to get that Hulk that then likely as not gets ganked and they quit the game.
Or maybe they autopilot an industrial hauling a weeks worth of gametime work to a hub and that gets ganked. Same result, they quit the game.
And given the seedy and sorry reputation this game now has, guess what? There aren't any noobs out there in a Navitas learning how to mine.
Most 'noobs' these days are actually suicide ganking alts that belong to some jaded nullsec failbot corp. This game is going to fail and fail rather quickly if something isn't done pretty quick.
Nullsec is a total freaking fail. Watch this and try to see why. http://youtu.be/7zzJsA8iecA
And now hisec is swarmed with not bitter vets, but rather disillusioned thugs that dreamed of glory, but now settle for mere thuggery.
Mark my words, this game is going to fail. And when it does it will be far faster than you will imagine.
This has been going on for several months and it is getting worse, not better, not the same as always, but Worse, much worse,
The base of the Eve economy is vanishing. |
TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:17:00 -
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Link is repaired.
Isk faucet known as incursions and no miners added together equals runaway inflation.
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TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:25:00 -
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Dyniss wrote:TravisWB wrote:Link is repaired.
Isk faucet known as incursions and no miners added together equals runaway inflation.
You know incursions are not the largest isk faucet bountys are
60 mil isk in 20 minutes is not an isk faucet? |
TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.20 18:08:00 -
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I remember when we had hisec mining bots back when the ore of the day was Plagio and then Scord.
I remember when nearly every Ice system in hisec would have 150+ miners on the ice.
I recall that CCP did begin some program that turned out to be pretty effective at removing actual bots as toons that we all knew locally as bots went away and never came back.
That was well over a year ago, maybe even 2 years by now.
I also remember when hisec began to be swarmed with red flagged pilots coming in from null at the beginning of the ganking that has now become rampant.
These days you can't even dare to recruit anyone that is an unknown as they are very likely a ganker waiting for an opportunity to gank a corpmates strategic cruiser when they get a chance. It happens.
It appears that the game has tilted too far towards the killboard, which is a perverse measure of success at best and the reason to exist at all at worst.
These days rich hisec asteroid belts no longer have numerous miners in system, no noob wreck scavengers or budding ratters. No small mining frigates or mining noob cruisers.
Ice belt systems in hisec now normally have closer to a dozen miners rather than what was once ten times that number.
The bots are long gone. Stop lieing to yourselves.
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TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.20 23:38:00 -
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Yoma Karima wrote: Where is the OP flying? the star systems around jita a full of miners.
All regions. Though the areas around trade hubs are usually avoided as they are primary gank zones, ninja salvager zones and areas of operation for the rediculous hisec wardec'rs. You know, pvp with neutral alt reppers.
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TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.22 02:43:00 -
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I have to say this has been a decent thread for Eve forums.
Many of you understand exactly what I was trying to point out and stated your opinions quite well. Others are, well, the actual problem.
Face it killers. Most miners are clueless noobs in a Hulk. The Hulk is a relatively easy ship to get into and for a non-missioning solo miner or micro corpy, a real isk maker. You killers understand just exactly how clueless that is right? Noob miners don't.
It usually takes them a while to go stir crazy from endless mining and start to branch out into other parts of the game.
You see them as bots. They are in fact afk noobs.
Ganking drives them from the game and they don't come back.
Thanks to you all that actually get this.
pppphhhhhht to you thugs that don't, or don't care.
And er, my suggestion is that CCP takes the moon materials out of a Hulk build. Make it totally hisec material makeable like an Orca.
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TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.22 02:48:00 -
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Idiots?
You ever been to null?
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TravisWB
The Gallente Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:10:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:TravisWB wrote:And er, my suggestion is that CCP takes the moon materials out of a Hulk build. Make it totally hisec material makeable like an Orca. What problem are you trying to solve?
Noobs in this game go two basic routes: Missioning or Mining or some combination of the 2.
A Hulk is most often the miner noobs first major purchase and for them it represents a lot of work as in time invested to earn the isk to buy the thing.
Take the moon materials out of the Hulk and they become MUCH less expensive. (uh, like they USED to be)
Just so the ganked Hulk player is not so severely butthurt that they leave the game.
The whole point is, this game has become brutal to noobs. How long do you think the game will last when the most fun to be had is to rapeandmurder the new players? |
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