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Aenis Veros Caldari Alphaflight	Posted - 2008.08.01 16:22:00 - [1] OK, someone tell me how a 25 man corporation can take down a Large Dread Guristas tower in high-sec that has 20 ECM-modules and the rest all hardeners? Towers in high-sec are b0rkened. NERF!!
Furb Killer Gallente The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.08.01 16:32:00 - [2] Higher mercs for more dps? Allthough i wouldnt be surprised if you can take it down with 25 people in 23 hours. Next topic: Nerf titans, how can a 2 men corporation take down a titan?
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.01 16:33:00 - [3] Welcome to understanding why cynojammers suck. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Gone'Postal Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2008.08.01 16:34:00 - [4] Wow so it like can't hurt you just jam you, so get everyone in ships (gank setup) and shoot it, ok so you only have 5 @ once on it if the POS guns don't overlap targets but meh.. -V8I-
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.01 16:37:00 - [5] Fit all Ravens, fill your holds with Torp FOF's, fly your gang close to a jammer, spam missiles, launch drones. Maybe not the best option, but it might work.
Yelan Zhou Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.01 16:39:00 - [6] Originally by: Furb Killer how can a 2 men corporation take down a titan? With 2 titans of course. nods War, War never changes.
Simetriz	Posted - 2008.08.01 16:39:00 - [7] Smart Bombs for the ECM & then switch to sentry drones and guns / missiles for the tower shields. It can be done, if not easily. I do have to ask why you would want to bother taking it down though. ?
Phony v2 Caldari Heavens Gate Consortium	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Soporo Fit all Ravens, fill your holds with Torp FOF's, fly your gang close to a jammer, spam missiles, launch drones. Maybe not the best option, but it might work. there is no such thing as torp FOF's ______________________________________________ Save a flame, post with your main!
Rubra J. S. Bach In memoriam	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Aenis Veros OK, someone tell me how a 25 man corporation can take down a Large Dread Guristas tower in high-sec that has 20 ECM-modules and the rest all hardeners? Towers in high-sec are b0rkened. NERF!! There are empire corporations that do this sort of thing for you for a price. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is one that comes to mind.
Mag's MASS	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:16:00 - [10] 25 Dreads in siege could do it. Mag's Originally by: Avernus One of these days, the realization that MASS is no longer significant will catch up with you.

Gone'Postal Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Mag's 25 Dreads in siege could do it. Do MASS often siege dreads in high sec space ? -V8I-
Rubra J. S. Bach In memoriam	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Mag's 25 Dreads in siege could do it. whooooosh!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Mag's 25 Dreads in siege could do it. Do MASS often siege dreads in high sec space ? Idle does, you don'?
Simetriz	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Mag's 25 Dreads in siege could do it. Do MASS often siege dreads in high sec space ? Hmmm I wonder what the max count is for dreads in one system in high-sec. 2 maybe 3 tops.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.01 17:33:00 - [15] Dominix: Highs: Guns Mids: 5 ECCM II Lows: Whatever Drones: T2 Heavies You now have 130 sensor strength, enough to get your drones launched and at least start working on the ECM modules. You only need to put them into structure to knock them offline. Scorpion, Dampener: Highs: Whatever Mids: 1X Sensor Booster II, locking time script, 7X Sensor Dampener II Lows: Whatever Three of those can damp all of the batteries to about 40KM, letting your damage dealers show up and start blowing up the ECM batteries and/or hardeners. This is just what I'm coming up with offhand. THINK! ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.08.01 18:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Tarminic Dominix: Highs: Guns Mids: 5 ECCM II Lows: Whatever Drones: T2 Heavies You now have 130 sensor strength, enough to get your drones launched and at least start working on the ECM modules. You only need to put them into structure to knock them offline. Scorpion, Dampener: Highs: Whatever Mids: 1X Sensor Booster II, locking time script, 7X Sensor Dampener II Lows: Whatever Three of those can damp all of the batteries to about 40KM, letting your damage dealers show up and start blowing up the ECM batteries and/or hardeners. This is just what I'm coming up with offhand. THINK! sentries i think would be better than heavies. also, just FOF lasers. piece of cake. - -
Farham Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2008.08.01 18:41:00 - [17] Edited by: Farham on 01/08/2008 18:44:03 Close range BS of your choice (though all Torp ravens would help since I doubt they are all caldari ECM). Sentries. Take out the ECMs focusing fire. The first 5 might be slow the rest will fall fast. Then sentry and close range BS the tower down. If all else fails, set up a few Smartbomb BSes far enough apart to not kill each other but close enough to take out as many at once as possible and bring a TON of cap charges. Should work like a charm. Why hang around with a bunch of boobs when you can play with a nice set of TITTS? Titan Industries Technology Team
Cambarus The Baros Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.01 19:11:00 - [18] If they're close together then smartbombs are the way to go. A full rack of SBs on a battleship will give you... about 200dps (EFT may be a bad idea most times but I think here it's justified ) 200 DPS from 2 ships, hitting 20 ecm mods = 8000DPS!!!! OMG nerf smartbombs! Seriously though, if you're only dealing with some ECM mods then this will be more then enough, and requires only 2 people. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.01 22:49:00 - [19] Edited by: Soporo on 01/08/2008 22:49:48 Quote: there is no such thing as torp FOF's Then there should be! CCP HATES CALDARI! rabble rabble rabble Meant Cruise.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.08.01 22:53:00 - [20] You havent got long left to do it before its nerfed but: Get a few nano vagabonds and ishtars, and fly really fast around the pos. Nanos are so overpowered the pos will GO BACK IN TIME like in superman and everntualy disapear SKUNK

Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.08.01 22:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Aenis Veros OK, someone tell me how a 25 man corporation can take down a Large Dread Guristas tower in high-sec that has 20 ECM-modules and the rest all hardeners? Towers in high-sec are b0rkened. NERF!! 20 ECM vs 25 battleships = 5 BS that can beat on a battery. Bring drones. Soon there will be only 19... CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Internet Knight	Posted - 2008.08.01 23:24:00 - [22] To OP: As other people have already pointed out, you need to take out the ECM modules first. Since you're being ECMed, you'll need to stay there to actually retarget and reactivate your guns. So fit for high DPS. Use the ECM to your advantage -- while you're ECMed, you can't target anything meaning you can't shoot anything meaning your capacitor is regenerating. If the starbase doens't have any guns, you won't need a tank. So fit for maximum DPS. When you reach the point of little return as far as DPS modules are concerned, that's when you fit out ECCM and backup arrays. So fit one or two tracking computers set for optimal range scripts (lazy = don't move = still be able to shoot stuff farther away), and 3 of your lowslot damage mods. Then fit the rest of your mid and low slots with ECCM and backup sensor arrays. Any utility slots you have can be set up with Energy Transfer modules. If someone runs out of cap (they haven't been ECMed for a while), just send them capacitor. Also useful for circle jerking your capacitor. Fit the heaviest drones you can use. In a general sense, t2 sentries > t2 heavies > t1 sentries > t1 heavies > t2 mediums > t1 mediums > t2 lights > t1 lights. If you know your drones, you'll probably know which of your drones do the most damage. Use them. Don't bother with drone upgrade modules or rigs. You should be able to take down the ECM batteries in short order. Once you've done that, it's a simple matter of refitting. Since normal drones cannot shoot the control tower, all of your ships should use sentries to shoot the tower. If someone can't use sentries, then they should use their normal drones for defense. Fit cheap lasers, and fit for being able to permarun your guns. Target the control tower, set your guns, and go have dinner. And lunch. And sleep. And breakfast. The tower might be in reinforced the next day. And it's worth noting that you should only use t1 modules, maybe up to meta 3, unless you've definitely got an overwhelming number of pilots on your side. This will help keep your losses low if your wartarget does decide to put up a fight -- you won't be able to call in immediate help from any allies that aren't in the war. Hiring more battleships can also help. I'd be more than happy to lend you my services as a battleship/dreadnought pilot. Contact me ingame if you're interested. --- How to resolve Singularity character syncing
Internet Knight	Posted - 2008.08.01 23:34:00 - [23] Also, I would NOT use smartbombs. All it takes is one of your wartargets to get smart and just bring in an out-of-war alt right on top of your smartbombing ship, and you will suddenly be one battleship less and won't have anything to show for it. --- How to resolve Singularity character syncing
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.01 23:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Internet Knight Also, I would NOT use smartbombs. All it takes is one of your wartargets to get smart and just bring in an out-of-war alt right on top of your smartbombing ship, and you will suddenly be one battleship less and won't have anything to show for it. This is a petitionable exploit.. Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Internet Knight	Posted - 2008.08.02 00:00:00 - [25] Originally by: Neth'Rae Originally by: Internet Knight Also, I would NOT use smartbombs. All it takes is one of your wartargets to get smart and just bring in an out-of-war alt right on top of your smartbombing ship, and you will suddenly be one battleship less and won't have anything to show for it. This is a petitionable exploit.. It's no exploit. You're using smartbombs. You're given a warning that you could damage civilians while in highsec. And there's nothing preventing even a random neutral from coming in to ruin your day, let alone a wartarget's neutral alt. --- How to resolve Singularity character syncing
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.08.02 00:15:00 - [26] get a bunch of sentry dominixes and go afk - Gob
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.02 00:56:00 - [27] A more realistic idea that requires 9 pilots: 8 Dominixes with 130 sensor strength + 1 Neutral in a scorpion, loaded down with remote ECCM = 8 Dominixes with ~200 Sensor Strength With 3 jammers hitting each dominix, they'll each have ~20% chance of jamming you each cycle, or 60% total. But you only need one unjammed cycle to deploy drones and target one of the jammers. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Apoctasy The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.08.02 03:36:00 - [28] Originally by: Le Skunk You havent got long left to do it before its nerfed but: Get a few nano vagabonds and ishtars, and fly really fast around the pos. Nanos are so overpowered the pos will GO BACK IN TIME like in superman and everntualy disapear SKUNK /thread 10/10 ----
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.08.02 03:38:00 - [29] Originally by: Soporo Fit all Ravens, fill your holds with Torp FOF's, fly your gang close to a jammer, spam missiles, launch drones. Maybe not the best option, but it might work. ROFL, how i cert FOF torp??
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.08.02 18:42:00 - [30] Originally by: Tarminic A more realistic idea that requires 9 pilots: 8 Dominixes with 130 sensor strength + 1 Neutral in a scorpion, loaded down with remote ECCM = 8 Dominixes with ~200 Sensor Strength With 3 jammers hitting each dominix, they'll each have ~20% chance of jamming you each cycle, or 60% total. But you only need one unjammed cycle to deploy drones and target one of the jammers. By providing a supporting boost to the dominix's (the remote ECCM) the scorpion becomes a valid target, thus will most likely get jammed themself. ________________________ Lord WarATron: "To do the Abaddon Hadoken, you need to do the following manover with the joypad. ↓ .... ↓→ .... → + ●



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