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Meridius Dex
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:45:00 -
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I have not done PvE since my first month in EVE and have now joined FW after a long time in zero sec. Needless to say, my fittings skills for running missions in T1 frigates and dessies are rusty.
Based on the kind of fighting one does to capture plexes and do faction missions, what are some recommended loadouts for the Punisher and Coercer?
Thx
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Meridius Dex
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:52:00 -
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[crickets]
No one?
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Victoria Ehr
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:22:00 -
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I recommend the Merlin instead
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Rexthor Hammerfists
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.01 21:12:00 -
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[Punisher, Pulses]
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Small Armor Repairer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
[empty high slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
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downgrade to t1 of course and go kill minmatar :)
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.08.01 22:23:00 -
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Bleed puni
3x dual light pulse @ gamma
small nos
ab
scrambler
small armor rep
cap power relay
cap power relay
cap power relay
Worked against alot of stuff before, could fly under cruiser guns. Dunno about minnies since right now theyre faster and can dictate range.
Glascannon
8x dual light pulse
tracking computer @ optimal
2x heatsink
whatever you can fit to get as much buffer as possible on last 2 lows
needs tacklers, can track and kill inties even when theyre nano. Also effective on plexes.
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There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.08.01 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Raymond Sterns on 01/08/2008 22:53:50
8 Dual Light Beams (Xray)
MWD
2 HS
2 TE
1 OI
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Lord Zarcam
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Posted - 2008.08.02 01:14:00 -
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Here's what I'm running in my punisher for PVE and Level 1 missions.
High:
Med Anode Pulse Particle Stream 1
Med Pulse Laser 1
Dual Modal Pulse Laser 1
Mid:
Cold-Gas I ArcJet Thrusters
Medium Supplemental Barrier Emitter 1
Low:
Heat Sink 1
Micro Aux Power Core 1
Overdrive Injector Sys 1
50 MM Tungsten Plate 1
So far, I have been able to go against 3 NPC crusiers or 6 NPC destroyers, or as many as 20 frigs and seldon even get into my armour. And the nice thing about this setup, most of it was loot from belt rats!
And as soon as I get some more training done, I've got more upgrades ready to go!
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Meridius Dex
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.02 06:43:00 -
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It's been so long since I've done any PvE, I was trying to remember if the really light stuff could be run with just a buffer tank or required an active. I seem to remember doing a lot of kiting with my Level 1s (and my Level 2s with an Arbitrator and drones).
It would seem that FW plexing is similar. Also, I recall beams would work well for missioning, whereas they are suck for PvP. So could I get away with beams on a Coercer and still do these things, or should I stick with pulse setups like:
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
2x Heat Sink II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
8x Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Optimals out to 15K and can run everything for a minute and a half. Don't suppose I'd have to run the MWD all the time. Can you FW plex with an AB and beams?
Damage Control II
2x Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
1MN Afterburner II
8x Dual Light Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Microwave S
I fit Aurora and gasped at the tracking (as always) and though of Microwave instead. Thoughts?
To Zarcam, you'll get criticized for mixing weapons, but I understand you may be fitting what you can afford and it's hard early in the game to get everything to squeeze in. I compared what you have with comparable equipment in Jita. How about:
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Emergency Damage Control I
Heat Sink I
Type-D Altered SS Overdrive Injector
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Small Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
3x Dual Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Xray S
Everything fits with only Electronics and Engineering II. When you can, sell your stuff for best price in Amarr, then fly to Jita to buy your ships and gear. You'll find lower prices there, particularly on Amarr stuff. If you can be patient, learn to place Buy Orders in Jita and you'll get most things for 40-50% off the best selling prices.
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Akuma Tsukai
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.02 07:33:00 -
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For solo work in plexes ull want range or speed (nah forget speed, be a man), and starting from medium permatank is good to have. Now the problem is, how the hell do i PVP in such ships? The truth is out there 
On a side note i usually dont fit AB or MWD on plexing ships  and do them just fine. Including killing/scaring minnies away.
P.S. All above is for solo work, obviously u can go crazy in gang.
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Lord Zarcam
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Posted - 2008.08.02 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius Dex
To Zarcam, you'll get criticized for mixing weapons, but I understand you may be fitting what you can afford and it's hard early in the game to get everything to squeeze in. I compared what you have with comparable equipment in Jita. How about:
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Emergency Damage Control I
Heat Sink I
Type-D Altered SS Overdrive Injector
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Small Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
3x Dual Anode Pulse Particle Stream I, Xray S
Everything fits with only Electronics and Engineering II. When you can, sell your stuff for best price in Amarr, then fly to Jita to buy your ships and gear. You'll find lower prices there, particularly on Amarr stuff. If you can be patient, learn to place Buy Orders in Jita and you'll get most things for 40-50% off the best selling prices.
Thank You, you gave me some more ideas to play with. And yeah, I've been putting things together as I find or loot them them. Most of my isk right now is going towards skill books, which I have a few more high end ones on my list before I start investing in ships. I have been playing with buy and sell orders recently and adding a few Trade skills, but I haven't ventured to Jita yet.
If you don't mind me asking (and I hope I'm not high jacking this thread), why use all the same weapons and crystals? And why XRay crystals? I have recently started playing with crystals, but have found the Multifreq's to have the best punch at close range, many time one-shop pops on small rats.
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John Yancy
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Posted - 2008.08.02 19:07:00 -
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Punisher for L1 missions:
Highs:
3x Dual Modulated Pulse Energy Beams (Best named)
1x Small Nosferatu
Mids:
1x Cold-gas Arcjet Thrusters
1x Barton Capacitor Recharger
Lows:
1x Small Armor Repairer II
1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
1x Capacitor Relay I
1x Heat Sink I
5% armor resists per level ftw!
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Meridius Dex
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.02 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Zarcam
Thank You, you gave me some more ideas to play with. And yeah, I've been putting things together as I find or loot them them. Most of my isk right now is going towards skill books, which I have a few more high end ones on my list before I start investing in ships. I have been playing with buy and sell orders recently and adding a few Trade skills, but I haven't ventured to Jita yet.
If you don't mind me asking (and I hope I'm not high jacking this thread), why use all the same weapons and crystals? And why XRay crystals? I have recently started playing with crystals, but have found the Multifreq's to have the best punch at close range, many time one-shop pops on small rats.
Although, yes, most everyone fighting at close optimals uses Multis (including me), they do draw more cap and I didn't know how good your skills were. When doing low-level missions Standard, X-ray or even Gamma can be more forgiving.
It's very good right now to get into the habit of fitting the same weapons and ammo across the board. You will find it helps you better set your default orbit and Keep At ranges. Trust me that it's easier to know how much uniform damage you do, regardless of whether you have one, two or all guns on a target and at what ranges you have optimal, falloff, etc.
If you haven't already done so, I can't recommend enough the Eve Fitting Tool for your ships and EVEMon for your skill plans. They will help you avoid much heartache as you choose how to fit your ship and skill it up. I don't even know how much ISK and time I lost my first few weeks in EVE because I kept buying things I'd forget I didn't have the skills for or was off in my calculations as to whether they'd fit on my ship.
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