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Russ1
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Posted - 2004.06.01 13:27:00 -
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Fine points Arianda. Yes, agents do give kill missions to the same systems quite a bit, but I doubt if gankers would have the patience to time this out. The gankers are doing this because it is easy, not because they are looking for a challenge. If they truely want PvP, they should fight somebody that wants to fight them.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.06.01 13:52:00 -
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well, it's not just a crazy thing to do. It's more like impossible.
Spotting a safespot should take way more than an hour, and those safespots are usually made by a halfjump.
The agent runner will be there and back within 15-20 mins max.
Imagine now of random spawn locations that are not between two jumpable objects... TOTALLY impossible.
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Destruct
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Posted - 2004.06.01 14:52:00 -
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i just got a reply from a gm and he answered that this is not an exploit.
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Arianda Knowles
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Posted - 2004.06.01 15:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Feta Solamnia
well, it's not just a crazy thing to do. It's more like impossible.
Spotting a safespot should take way more than an hour, and those safespots are usually made by a halfjump.
The agent runner will be there and back within 15-20 mins max.
Imagine now of random spawn locations that are not between two jumpable objects... TOTALLY impossible.
You're forgetting one thing: the ganker would be an agent runner himself (obviously, otherwise he wouldn't know about the mission in question) which means he gets allot of extra random points in the space system to warp between.So instaid of having just a few lines going through the system, you could have a whole series of them, thus making it possible to get to most points in the system within that time frame.
Once again i'll stress that i'm problaly the only person who is mad enough to give this a go, due to the challenge involved.. its so much easier to go after miners instaid, you can pinpoint their positions in belts within 30 seconds of jumping into a system.. but it would be worth hearing people go 'WTF?!?' when they get warp scrambled at their totally randomly created spawn bookmark.  
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Russ1
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Posted - 2004.06.01 15:20:00 -
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Destruct, I didnt say it was an exploit--I said it should be an exploit. I only post in hopes that a GM will read and maybe change their mind.
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Russ1
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Posted - 2004.06.01 15:33:00 -
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Oh, and btw, name the GM. Least that way I can email them too to confirm this.
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Mikesnail
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Posted - 2004.06.01 16:05:00 -
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sitting at a rat spawn is no lamer than sitting in a roid field ... infact, u have more chance of a target firing back at the rat spawn that u do at a roid belt .... the fact that most missions take you to a planet means that you are still in a point of space which ANYONE can access, therefore its up to you , the mission runner to be aware of your surroundings, and check local etc.
if u dont like the risks, dont take the missions. that simple.
its not an exploit, it shouldnt be an exploit, ALL of low sec space is dangerous. U can be fired on ANYWHERE in low sec space, why should rat/mission spawns be any different?
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Polux
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Posted - 2004.06.01 16:21:00 -
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This shouldn't be a exploid but it's REALY ebil 
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2004.06.02 09:06:00 -
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Is there any part of EVE that the griefers won't ruin?
Yes, it IS a lazy, cowardly, griefing tactic that ought to get you an instant ban. But it won't. Why? Because banning you for this exploit would expose the fact that it is only possible because of lazy programming.
Mission spawns ought to be at least 1 AU from anywhere at all in the system, and in a totally random direction. Problem solved - you'd have to be damn good with the scanner to manage that one, and if you are that good you probably deserve the kill.
Pull your finger out CCP!
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.06.03 00:22:00 -
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Quote:
You're forgetting one thing: the ganker would be an agent runner himself (obviously, otherwise he wouldn't know about the mission in question) which means he gets allot of extra random points in the space system to warp between.So instaid of having just a few lines going through the system, you could have a whole series of them, thus making it possible to get to most points in the system within that time frame.
Once again i'll stress that i'm problaly the only person who is mad enough to give this a go, due to the challenge involved.. its so much easier to go after miners instaid, you can pinpoint their positions in belts within 30 seconds of jumping into a system.. but it would be worth hearing people go 'WTF?!?' when they get warp scrambled at their totally randomly created spawn bookmark
Given the size of a single grid compared to a system, to track down a single grid (lets assume its 1000x1000x1000km) would require:
- A mathmatical program that could calculate exactly how far along a line you should stop for a bisector to another defined point (your 3rd triangulation point) to pass through the desired point (the NPCs)
Once you had that number, say you need to get to a point 12.320327372 aus along your original line. How you going to get there? dropping a bm in warp? lets say you did that, and clicked place bookmark when it read 12aus to target. The resulting bm could be anywhere between 12 and 2 aus from the target, as there is a variable time determined by lag before the BM is dropped.
In short, its impossible, without enourmous luck not once, but twice.
Finding safespots along a line is more doable, but still takes around 20mins, which is a lot more time than itll take the agent runner to complete his mission.
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ShinRa
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.06.03 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: kyuuki
can i make a quick guess, was it ostingle?
what he said
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mikesnail
sitting at a rat spawn is no lamer than sitting in a roid field ... infact, u have more chance of a target firing back at the rat spawn that u do at a roid belt ....
And that makes you scared does it? targets to fire back n all
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Chrome Born
Post the name of the system this happened in am sure there are a lot more agent runners in the game than pirates atm 
Chrome Born.
But I bet all my ISK on that we have the skills to kill em all  
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