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Xelios Xarxes	Posted - 2008.08.03 08:46:00 - [1] Hello. Some of my Raven customers keep telling me that switching the link to Raven Navy Issue in chat is an exploit and bannable. Can I get an official answer on this? Thanks for your time.
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.03 09:06:00 - [2] Edited by: kublai on 03/08/2008 09:06:47 It's not bannable, of this I can assure you. Edith: I have been petitioned hundreds of times (i'm sorry GM's I TELL them to read the eula!) and...never have I been banned for scamming. A-War Recruiting
Xelios Xarxes	Posted - 2008.08.03 09:11:00 - [3] Thanks for the quick answer.
Xonkra Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.03 09:18:00 - [4] i'm pretty sure its bananable... --------- Founder of the Hug-a-troll initiative Hug a forum troll because they can probably use it !
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.03 09:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Xelios Xarxes Thanks for the quick answer. You should prepare for the following: Being petitioned People with friends and family at CCP People who ARE gm's (honest!!!1) People who will kill you irl People who will beat you up irl People who could kill/beat you up irl but you're not worth it and etc, I am still alive and not banned so provided you stick to the EULA you're more of less safe, if in doubt look it up or just petition a GM and ask (i've done that several times). What you need to stay away from are: Anything involving rl money in any link (gtc's char/account transfers). Posing as someones alt (you are not permitted to pretend to be an actual person existing in the game, but you can pretend to be an honest carebear of course <3). Welcome to scamming. A-War Recruiting
Admiral Bear	Posted - 2008.08.03 09:59:00 - [6] Don't forget that you are a pathetic excuse for a human being with no morals who would literally sell their own mother if they got the chance.
Hesod Adee Militants of Xen	Posted - 2008.08.03 10:23:00 - [7] Originally by: kublai Originally by: Xelios Xarxes Thanks for the quick answer. You should prepare for the following: Being petitioned People with friends and family at CCP People who ARE gm's (honest!!!1) People who will kill you irl People who will beat you up irl People who could kill/beat you up irl but you're not worth it Aren't the last 5 things you describe things that will get the person your scamming into trouble if you petition them ?
Lolarina	Posted - 2008.08.03 10:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Admiral Bear Don't forget that you are a pathetic excuse for a human being with no morals who would literally sell their own mother if they got the chance. i have to start selling ravens just to get mails like these, I mean DAMN
Anhammerad Jolly Rogerers	Posted - 2008.08.03 11:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Hesod Adee Originally by: kublai Originally by: Xelios Xarxes Thanks for the quick answer. You should prepare for the following: Being petitioned People with friends and family at CCP People who ARE gm's (honest!!!1) People who will kill you irl People who will beat you up irl People who could kill/beat you up irl but you're not worth it Aren't the last 5 things you describe things that will get the person your scamming into trouble if you petition them ? Yup, provide the chatlogs in a petition and they'll be banned for a certain ammount of time. That's what I do, people need to learn to lose graciously .
ShadowMaiden Amarr Metal Machine	Posted - 2008.08.03 13:06:00 - [10] Originally by: Admiral Bear Don't forget that you are a pathetic excuse for a human being with no morals who would literally sell their own mother if they got the chance. Ahh... smack talk from the safety of an NPC corp, goes great with the morning coffee I wish I was a 3ft Doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Krecian Gallente United Trade Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.03 13:41:00 - [11] Am I the only newer person in the game that just accepts the "s***and villainy" as part of the game's flavor? Hell, one of the guys who taught me the ropes of this game got scammed last month and all he did was laugh at himself for falling for it. Avoiding trouble in this game is part of the fun, FFS! --------- "The first rock thrown again, welcome to hell little saint. Mother Gia in slaughter, welcome to paradise soldier." -Nightwish, Planet Hell*
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.03 13:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Hesod Adee Originally by: kublai Originally by: Xelios Xarxes Thanks for the quick answer. You should prepare for the following: Being petitioned People with friends and family at CCP People who ARE gm's (honest!!!1) People who will kill you irl People who will beat you up irl People who could kill/beat you up irl but you're not worth it Aren't the last 5 things you describe things that will get the person your scamming into trouble if you petition them ? Yes it is, but I will only petition people in -extreme- cases, a little death treath after i stole billions of isk isn't something I worry about. A-War Recruiting
Draeca The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.08.03 14:32:00 - [13] Originally by: kublai You should prepare for the following: Being petitioned People with friends and family at CCP People who ARE gm's (honest!!!1) People who will kill you irl People who will beat you up irl People who could kill/beat you up irl but you're not worth it People who are irl friends with bob directors and will get them to wardec your corp Fix'd ___
Orogaldeo Amarr Star Horizons Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:42:00 - [14] you should be prepared to even weirder replies: "umh, you sold a T1 module for 40m to me, pretending it was a faction module" "yeah" "isn't that against the rules of the game?" "no" "oh, ok. goodbye" ________________________________
Admiral Bear	Posted - 2008.08.03 18:31:00 - [15] Originally by: ShadowMaiden Originally by: Admiral Bear Don't forget that you are a pathetic excuse for a human being with no morals who would literally sell their own mother if they got the chance. Ahh... smack talk from the safety of an NPC corp, goes great with the morning coffee That wasn't smacktalk.
Terrifiedkiller Gallente Comply Or Die Retribution.	Posted - 2008.08.03 18:50:00 - [16] Originally by: Xelios Xarxes Hello. Some of my Raven customers keep telling me that switching the link to Raven Navy Issue in chat is an exploit and bannable. Can I get an official answer on this? Thanks for your time. the truth in the matter is all scames are not bannable unless the scam is proven to be utalizing something other then in game mechanics (use of third party software for example) as long as you stick with using in game mechanics for example changing the text of a link which can be easily done without a hack of any kind thus makes it perfectly fine just watch out for who you scam :)
Lubimchik Power Seed Enterprises	Posted - 2008.08.03 19:53:00 - [17] Edited by: Lubimchik on 03/08/2008 19:54:06 Originally by: kublai Edited by: kublai on 03/08/2008 09:06:47 It's not bannable, of this I can assure you. Edith: I have been petitioned hundreds of times (i'm sorry GM's I TELL them to read the eula!) and...never have I been banned for scamming. sigh Where as I know that scamming is part of the game, and I dont do it.. nor have I never been scammed because I am smart enough to read everything! Your lame... Ohh look at me im a big bad pirate rawr.. I kill everything.. ebil merc... and all around nasty guy... but yet I have to take advantage of people tardness to make money? Shouldnt you be making enough money off all those people your killing? Maybe you would get a few more contracts if you were regaurded as a bit more honest? Heh... I understand that scamming is part of the game...but blah... at least macro farmers semi work for their money.
Hesod Adee Militants of Xen	Posted - 2008.08.04 05:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Krecian Am I the only newer person in the game that just accepts the "s****and villainy" as part of the game's flavor? Hell, one of the guys who taught me the ropes of this game got scammed last month and all he did was laugh at himself for falling for it. Avoiding trouble in this game is part of the fun, FFS! The first I heard about Eve was the Eve intergalactic bank scam. In fact, if not for that scam, I probably wouldn't of given Eve a try. So the scams and such probably helped sell Eve to me.
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.04 05:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Lubimchik Edited by: Lubimchik on 03/08/2008 19:54:06 Originally by: kublai Edited by: kublai on 03/08/2008 09:06:47 It's not bannable, of this I can assure you. Edith: I have been petitioned hundreds of times (i'm sorry GM's I TELL them to read the eula!) and...never have I been banned for scamming. sigh Where as I know that scamming is part of the game, and I dont do it.. nor have I never been scammed because I am smart enough to read everything! Your lame... Ohh look at me im a big bad pirate rawr.. I kill everything.. ebil merc... and all around nasty guy... but yet I have to take advantage of people tardness to make money? Shouldnt you be making enough money off all those people your killing? Maybe you would get a few more contracts if you were regaurded as a bit more honest? Heh... I understand that scamming is part of the game...but blah... at least macro farmers semi work for their money. 1. I have never bragged about killing hordes of people 2. I am not a mercenary, well that's not entirely true, I do take private contracts but I don't advertise myself as a mercenary and i'm certainly not available to the general public 3. Scamming is fun To finish off, you're an idiot. A-War Recruiting
techzer0 Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.08.04 08:07:00 - [20] Edited by: techzer0 on 04/08/2008 08:07:53 Originally by: Lubimchik Edited by: Lubimchik on 03/08/2008 19:54:06 Originally by: kublai Edited by: kublai on 03/08/2008 09:06:47 It's not bannable, of this I can assure you. Edith: I have been petitioned hundreds of times (i'm sorry GM's I TELL them to read the eula!) and...never have I been banned for scamming. sigh Where as I know that scamming is part of the game, and I dont do it.. nor have I never been scammed because I am smart enough to read everything! Your lame... Ohh look at me im a big bad pirate rawr.. I kill everything.. ebil merc... and all around nasty guy... but yet I have to take advantage of people tardness to make money? Shouldnt you be making enough money off all those people your killing? Maybe you would get a few more contracts if you were regaurded as a bit more honest? Heh... I understand that scamming is part of the game...but blah... at least macro farmers semi work for their money. Kublai is a scammer, not a big bad pirate. And he is win at forums... see above ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar!
Syringe Morphine Inc	Posted - 2008.08.04 14:58:00 - [21] Originally by: Lubimchik Edited by: Lubimchik on 03/08/2008 19:54:06 sigh Where as I know that scamming is part of the game, and I dont do it.. nor have I never been scammed because I am smart enough to read everything! Your lame... Ohh look at me im a big bad pirate rawr.. I kill everything.. ebil merc... and all around nasty guy... but yet I have to take advantage of people tardness to make money? Shouldnt you be making enough money off all those people your killing? Maybe you would get a few more contracts if you were regaurded as a bit more honest? Heh... I understand that scamming is part of the game...but blah... at least macro farmers semi work for their money. I fail to see how this qualifies the scammers as 'lame'. They don't MAKE people purchase bogus contracts, and its not their fault if people don't want to take the extra 3 seconds to actually read the contract details - they deserve to lose their ISK. Imagine an EVE with no scamming: WoWtards would be running rampant and the GMs would all have brain aneurysms trying to keep up with the massive whining. Scammers, pirates and griefers are the defense against such a horrible fate. So the next time you're scammed, robbed, pirated, sploder'd, can-jacked, griefed or whatever: Thank a pirate --------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question.
Nekopyat	Posted - 2008.08.04 16:36:00 - [22] Wait wait wait.. let me get this strait. People actually fall for this? i.e. they will pay the hundreds of millions for a CNR on contract without actually taking the 10 seconds to look at the contract to see if that is what they are buying????
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.04 16:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Nekopyat Wait wait wait.. let me get this strait. People actually fall for this? i.e. they will pay the hundreds of millions for a CNR on contract without actually taking the 10 seconds to look at the contract to see if that is what they are buying???? Yeah, I don't do these things though, see, these scams only about 1 out of 20 will work and that's if you're good. It's quite the grind, but a nice entry level scam for new scammers. A-War Recruiting
Arous Drephius Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.04 16:57:00 - [24] Originally by: Nekopyat Wait wait wait.. let me get this strait. People actually fall for this? i.e. they will pay the hundreds of millions for a CNR on contract without actually taking the 10 seconds to look at the contract to see if that is what they are buying???? This is EVE, why are you even asking that?
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:14:00 - [25] I once made a complete newbie mine me 30 million units of trit in his cruiser, he thought he was mining for his freighter. He also gave me his bpo collection to produce for him (worth about 5m isk). I do the odd pro-bono scam, it is my belief that we should not discriminate based on class and wealth, so now and then I also scam the poor just to include them in my gaming expirience, now this will end up in some hilarious situations, it's amazing what people will believe. A-War Recruiting
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:23:00 - [26] If you're dumb enough to fall for a scam by not looking at the contract you're about to spend 450 million isk on, that money is better off with someone else. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Morgen StMichael	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:55:00 - [27] Originally by: Spaztick If you're dumb enough to fall for a scam by not looking at the contract you're about to spend 450 million isk on, that money is better off with someone else. As much as I find scammers and griefers distasteful, you can't really argue with this.
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:57:00 - [28] As much as I dislike scamming it is still part of the game non the less. Takes hard work to be a good scammer I would think and if someone spends their time working on something and they succeed then you gotta admit they deserved it. Some people reckon its the worst thing that you could do but I totally disagree, but dont condone it. Dishonoring ransoms and stealing from corp mates is way much worse and its really taking abusing trust to an all time low. Scamming however is more like Jita PvP. P.S. People that fall for scams should learn by it rather than sit and whine all the time.
Chomapuraku Caldari Templar Republic	Posted - 2008.08.05 00:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Xonkra i'm pretty sure its bananable... this ^ i was bananaed by a GM for scamming in jita last year. my ******* hasn't been the same since
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.08.05 01:32:00 - [30] Originally by: Xonkra i'm pretty sure its bananable... Is bananable also the saem as being yelled at and threatened by a GM for spamming Jita local? You're not afraid of the dark, are you?

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