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Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10367	Posted - 2012.03.20 17:53:00 - [1] - Quote Hello space friends. My name is Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; the intrepid Sky Captain of Your Heart; the Most Esteemed Spacebook Superstar of All Time; Good Poster Extraordinaire, and Space Friend to All. I come to you today with my hat in my hand and with my doe-like eyes and quivering lip turns towards you, O Beneficent One, to beg Your council on the Dreadnought-class space ships here in the EVE Online, the same being a popular Internet spaceship game produced by CCP, hf. I am an EVE player of a few years now, and this character is nearing 70 million skill points of entirely sub-capital (and mostly Rifter-oriented) skills and points to do with skills. I have fives in pretty much every support skill that is relevant to sub-capital ships, and I am ready to step it up to baby's first Capital Ship. To that end I hope to enlist You fine, distinguished fellows, in determining which ship o' the line I should choose to be mine. I have Amarr Battleship 5, Gallente Battleship 5, and Minmatar Battleship 5; so, pretty much any of them except for the Phoenix is a feasible possibility. I have excellent armour skills, gunnery skills and shield skills, as well as full missile support skills. My question is born not of which ship I am most able to fly in a reasonable time; instead, it is of which is best suited for the present meta-game, and which is the most convenient for me to fly. I look forward to replies! Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10369	Posted - 2012.03.20 17:56:00 - [2] - Quote If it helps, my tastes run towards Charmander rather than Bulbasaur, and Stoutland is probably the best Pokemon. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Luba Cibre 71	Posted - 2012.03.20 17:56:00 - [3] - Quote Moros > Revelation > Naglfar.
Cambarus Baros Reloaded 143	Posted - 2012.03.20 17:59:00 - [4] - Quote The moros is notably better than the others ATM, not that dreads get much use, and I'm only responding to this probable troll because you spelled both armour and dreadnought properly.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10370	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:07:00 - [5] - Quote Luba Cibre wrote: Moros > Revelation > Naglfar. Can you explain, concisely and fluently, why you choose this prioritization over other possible prioritization? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10370	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:10:00 - [6] - Quote Cambarus wrote: The moros is notably better than the others ATM, not that dreads get much use, and I'm only responding to this probable troll because you spelled both armour and dreadnought properly. I do not troll, sir; however, I do speak the Queen's English. As it happens Goonswarm Federation (of whom I am a member) is finding increasing use for Dreadnoughts and one of our fleet commanders whose fleets I prefer not to attend is notably absent from the CAPSWARM command structure. It's a win-win for me. I am curious, would you mind explaining the superiority of the Moros? I have not given it a look since they nerfed its 50%-per-level drone damage a couple of years previous. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 1100	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:15:00 - [7] - Quote I am a fan of the Revelation because of the innate advantages of lasers and POS sieges. The blaster Moros seems especially well suited for close up engagements such as happen on WHs and hot dropping station hugging caps. Ask your FC whether he wants to prioritize structure bashing and/or range (Rev) or raw damage (Moros). Choose accordingly. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Vince Snetterton Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:17:00 - [8] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Luba Cibre wrote: Moros > Revelation > Naglfar. Can you explain, concisely and fluently, why you choose this prioritization over other possible prioritization? Why would a goon be asking anyone but other goons about advice on cap ships? Further, since you are running for CSM, I would have expected you to be well-versed in ALL areas of Eve play, and that includes Dreads. Especially Dreads if you are in goons. But then again, goons are slime and liars so not surprised that one would run for CSM even though they don't know basic null sec ships.
Luba Cibre 71	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:24:00 - [9] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Luba Cibre wrote: Moros > Revelation > Naglfar. Can you explain, concisely and fluently, why you choose this prioritization over other possible prioritization? Moros does the most deeps and deeps is what you want. So it got the first place. Revelation doesn't consume any ammunition, but does less deeps than a Moros, but you can shoot all day long. Naglfar is half **, but vertical. Seriously, 50% of your weapon systems are **. Oh and our wiki is outdated as usual on that topic, so don't read it.
stoicfaux 799	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:29:00 - [10] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Hello space friends. My name is Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; the intrepid Sky Captain of Your Heart; the Most Esteemed Spacebook Superstar of All Time; Good Poster Extraordinaire, and Space Friend to All. You forgot "Modest" and "Brony". Vince Snetterton wrote: Why would a goon be asking anyone but other goons about advice on cap ships? This. Do you need your dread choice to align with and support your corp's/alliances's strategy, or do you just want one for screwing around, i.e. personal use? You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Borun Tal Border Zone Combat 54	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:34:00 - [11] - Quote Got bored half-way through your self-aggrandizing non-sense...
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10375	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:34:00 - [12] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Hello space friends. My name is Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; the intrepid Sky Captain of Your Heart; the Most Esteemed Spacebook Superstar of All Time; Good Poster Extraordinaire, and Space Friend to All. You forgot "Modest" and "Brony". I am many things, sir, but I am neither of those. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 1100	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:37:00 - [13] - Quote I forgot to mention that the Naglfar is the best nano dread. If you need to bump low sec supercaps to keep them from warping out, the Naglfar is definitely the dread for you. -Liang Ed: Also, don't forget to fit neuts on your nano Naglfar. Its really important that you keep his cap below the required levels to just jump out. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10375	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:40:00 - [14] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: I am a fan of the Revelation because of the innate advantages of lasers and POS sieges. The blaster Moros seems especially well suited for close up engagements such as happen on WHs and hot dropping station hugging caps. Ask your FC whether he wants to prioritize structure bashing and/or range (Rev) or raw damage (Moros). Choose accordingly. -Liang I am heavily leaning towards the Revelation for its utility in structure shots (which are most of what our hypothetical, totally non-existent and entirely theoretical CAPSWARM would do if it existed; moreover, I am really liking the idea of being able to turn on the guns and turn my attention away from the EVE client without feeling guilty that I have forgotten to reload the ammunition and continue firing the guns during protracted engagements. I am simply aware that the Moros has accolades supporting it, and for that reason I come to You, the arbiter of the court of public opinion, for answers. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10375	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:41:00 - [15] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: I forgot to mention that the Naglfar is the best nano dread. If you need to bump low sec supercaps to keep them from warping out, the Naglfar is definitely the dread for you. -Liang Ed: Also, don't forget to fit neuts on your nano Naglfar. Its really important that you keep his cap below the required levels to just jump out. With respect, nothing that I can envision myself doing with a Dreadnought will ever involve low security space. I do appreciate that you're going for a comprehensive reply, though! Thanks for that. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10375	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:42:00 - [16] - Quote Borun Tal wrote: Got bored half-way through your self-aggrandizing non-sense... I am sincerely sorry that you don't think I am awesome; however, I'd like to thank you for the opportunity to post at you. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10376	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:45:00 - [17] - Quote Vince Snetterton wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Luba Cibre wrote: Moros > Revelation > Naglfar. Can you explain, concisely and fluently, why you choose this prioritization over other possible prioritization? Why would a goon be asking anyone but other goons about advice on cap ships? I will not be drawn into speculating about other goons, or goons in general, because I don't like to make generalizations; however, my personal motivation for asking someone other than goons is to poll the community, post in the community, have a pleasant conversation with the community, and in general not be a conceited, insular person who spurns everything but his own in-group. Quote: Further, since you are running for CSM, I would have expected you to be well-versed in ALL areas of Eve play, and that includes Dreads. Especially Dreads if you are in goons. But then again, goons are slime and liars so not surprised that one would run for CSM even though they don't know basic null sec ships. Show me a man who claims to know everything about even one subject, and I will show you a liar. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10376	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:47:00 - [18] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Vince Snetterton wrote: Why would a goon be asking anyone but other goons about advice on cap ships? This. Do you need your dread choice to align with and support your corp's/alliances's strategy, or do you just want one for screwing around, i.e. personal use? I am definitely going to go for supporting the CFC strategy since to my understanding carriers are much better ships to have for the purpose of individually screwing around, owing to their superior jump range, superior carrying capacity, and a few other variables specific to null sec. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10376	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:48:00 - [19] - Quote I'd like to thank you all for your replies! I am off to lecture, but will be checking this thread over the next little while. GÖÑ Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Fierceshot Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2012.03.20 18:55:00 - [20] - Quote The Naglafar is vertical! Has to count for something methinks..
mxzf Shovel Bros 1009	Posted - 2012.03.20 19:28:00 - [21] - Quote Moros: Best damage Revelation: no ammo use Pick which thing is more important to you/your FC and go with that.
Uppsy Daisy 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 91	Posted - 2012.03.20 19:32:00 - [22] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Luba Cibre wrote: Moros > Revelation > Naglfar. Can you explain, concisely and fluently, why you choose this prioritization over other possible prioritization? You seek concise answers yet all you give us is a huge wall of waffle.... Quid pro quo pls.
The Mittami GoonsWaffle 0	Posted - 2012.03.21 00:55:00 - [23] - Quote Lyris Nairn, stop talking so nicely to the pubbies so politely. Wouldn't want you to risk giving the goons a good name.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 1102	Posted - 2012.03.21 00:59:00 - [24] - Quote The Mittami wrote: Lyris Nairn, stop talking so nicely to the pubbies so politely. Wouldn't want you to risk giving the goons a good name. Hey, so you need more space likes to be confused with the King Of Space. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
The Mittami GoonsWaffle 1	Posted - 2012.03.21 01:22:00 - [25] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: The Mittami wrote: Lyris Nairn, stop talking so nicely to the pubbies so politely. Wouldn't want you to risk giving the goons a good name. Hey, so you need more space likes to be confused with the King Of Space. -Liang I'll get there. I only today decided to take this entertaining little ham of an alt out of Jita and put him on the forums.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10391	Posted - 2012.03.21 01:24:00 - [26] - Quote The Mittami wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: The Mittami wrote: Lyris Nairn, stop talking so nicely to the pubbies so politely. Wouldn't want you to risk giving the goons a good name. Hey, so you need more space likes to be confused with the King Of Space. -Liang I'll get there. I only today decided to take this entertaining little ham of an alt out of Jita and put him on the forums. If you would like to form an accord with regards to likes and likes-sharing, I am amenable. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
Headerman Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx 719	Posted - 2012.03.21 01:25:00 - [27] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: I forgot to mention that the Naglfar is the best nano dread. If you need to bump low sec supercaps to keep them from warping out, the Naglfar is definitely the dread for you. -Liang Ed: Also, don't forget to fit neuts on your nano Naglfar. Its really important that you keep his cap below the required levels to just jump out. ^^^ This. Nano snake'd Nags with an overloaded 100MWD really go pretty fast. Line up on a titan, burn burn burn, then enter siege at 450 m/s for epic bumpage. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why?
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10391	Posted - 2012.03.21 01:26:00 - [28] - Quote Headerman wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: I forgot to mention that the Naglfar is the best nano dread. If you need to bump low sec supercaps to keep them from warping out, the Naglfar is definitely the dread for you. -Liang Ed: Also, don't forget to fit neuts on your nano Naglfar. Its really important that you keep his cap below the required levels to just jump out. ^^^ This. Nano snake'd Nags with an overloaded 100MWD really go pretty fast. Line up on a titan, burn burn burn, then enter siege at 450 m/s for epic bumpage. This mental image is hilarious. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8
FT Diomedes Factio Paucorum 11	Posted - 2012.03.21 01:40:00 - [29] - Quote It's been a long time since I had the joy of being in a POS fight, but the lightness and charm of your post compelled me to respond. As others have already stated, the Moros does more DPS, but you don't have to reload your Revelation. I am partial to the Revelation for this reason. I may or may not have been ratting on my other account(s) the last time I was part of a POS siege.
Headerman Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx 719	Posted - 2012.03.21 02:25:00 - [30] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Headerman wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: I forgot to mention that the Naglfar is the best nano dread. If you need to bump low sec supercaps to keep them from warping out, the Naglfar is definitely the dread for you. -Liang Ed: Also, don't forget to fit neuts on your nano Naglfar. Its really important that you keep his cap below the required levels to just jump out. ^^^ This. Nano snake'd Nags with an overloaded 100MWD really go pretty fast. Line up on a titan, burn burn burn, then enter siege at 450 m/s for epic bumpage. This mental image is hilarious. Oh it works for real, the Test server is great The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why?

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