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Pride NL
Caldari Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.08 13:56:00 -
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Caldari does not stand alone.
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Number 17
Caldari COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone What holds me back from becoming one with the Warrior inside myself I here you ask? What could possibly stop me from rushing forward to embrace the perfection of being?
The lack of paragraphs, and self repeating?
Anarchist scumbags, go back to the hole where you came from. You are but old residues of a long lost era. Your time has gone by and all you have left is empty words where you used to put your guns. The world has moved on, you have been left behind, deal with it.
As for the lowlife who states his opinions about our state, and its militia, run back to your master and tell him/her to show its face.
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3ll3
Gallente Tranquillity Nation
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Posted - 2008.08.08 18:58:00 -
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Hmnn I don't like the thought of any one suffering, but some how I don't think we should count our chickens before they have hatched.
Any thing could and probably may come to pass.
But for now...YAY WE ROCK WHEEEEEE! *Wiggles*
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.08 19:01:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Heartstone on 08/08/2008 19:00:57
Originally by: Number 17
The lack of paragraphs, and self repeating?
Oh no my dear Number 17 you cut me to the core. I am sorry that more than a few sentences strung together is too much for you but I don't grope for the lowest common denominator when writing.
Quote: Your time has gone by and all you have left is empty words where you used to put your guns. The world has moved on, you have been left behind, deal with it.
Really? You really think this? Well then I guess we will just have to see who is the one who is spouting empty words into the ether and who are the one's willing to fight then won't we.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.08.08 19:17:00 -
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The Star Fraction is becoming almost laughably antiquated. Face it, you're 108's news. There are more important things to worry about than you nowadays, and all the posturing and insulting of Caldari in the world isn't going to change that.
You're never going to succeed in your effort to destroy the governments, because to them you're not even noticeable - a tiny speck of dust on the shoulder of a giant. When other giants are swinging their clubs around worrying close to their faces, do you think they're really going to pay any attention to you? You were patently unable to destroy or even seriously inconvenience CVA or their pets, and even PIE Inc. barely noticed you. The only people you've really managed to harm was the Kimotoro Directive, and they were weak to begin with.
The Caldari aren't going to collapse completely, even to the Federation's militia so they're definetely not going to find serious problems in you. -----
CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting. |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.08 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris The Star Fraction is becoming almost laughably antiquated. Face it, you're 108's news. There are more important things to worry about than you nowadays, and all the posturing and insulting of Caldari in the world isn't going to change that.
But of course not Mr Ixiris which is why we spend a great deal of our time in combat against the loyalist corporations of the tyrant Heth at the moment. So far our progress in this campaign has been most satisfactory with a number of victories for us mixed in with some rather fun skirmishing against others who we expect to remain loyal. Equally we are not expecting the Caldari State to fall before us. If you had read anything we have said since the beginning of this campaign you would know that. We simply want to apply pressure to Heth and to help those who would rid the State and the Universe of him by removing some of his "champions" in the State Militia.
As to our past track record, as you have decided to misrepresent our history so well I will leave you with your dreams.
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.08.08 20:12:00 -
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Heartsone,
Throughout this discussion you've been more civil and straight spoken than I have come to expect from one of Jade's adherants - almost to the point that I can forget about the thousands of innocent caldari you've slain all the while chortling with mischievous glee.
Now, I have to say you've overestimated the support for Heth among the Caldari paramilitaries with any real influence. In fact I believe the majority of Fractionite declarations have been against Heth's detractors. Is your intel really that faulty or are you being deceptive about your true motives? ============================================
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Victoria Ehr
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.08 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
we spend a great deal of our time in combat against the loyalist corporations of the tyrant Heth at the moment. So far our progress in this campaign has been most satisfactory with a number of victories for us mixed in with some rather fun skirmishing against others who we expect to remain loyal. Equally we are not expecting the Caldari State to fall before us. If you had read anything we have said since the beginning of this campaign you would know that. We simply want to apply pressure to Heth and to help those who would rid the State and the Universe of him by removing some of his "champions" in the State Militia.
Giggling with her feet propped up on the desk, reading this Gallente propaganda while sipping a quafe mocha delight. "They are so silly, Tibus Heth is a giant of a man. When one champion falls, another rises. No amount of pressure will stop the plan. The Caldari State is strong as ever!" -------------------------------------------- The path to power is up!
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.08.08 20:21:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Victoria Ehr
Giggling with her feet propped up on the desk, reading this Gallente propaganda while sipping a quafe mocha delight. "They are so silly, Tibus Heth is a giant of a man. When one champion falls, another rises. No amount of pressure will stop the plan. The Caldari State is strong as ever!"
You shame yourself. ============================================
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.08 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hamish Grayson
almost to the point that I can forget about the thousands of innocent caldari you've slain all the while chortling with mischievous glee.
Believe me Hamish I don't take any pleasure in the deaths of the crews on the ships we destroy. As you will be aware each of the Freecaptains are individuals and see things differently from each other in many respects but most if not all of us regret the loss of life our campaigns cause and can only hope that it will be worth it. It is one of the reasons that I am personally trying to develop a version of the Pod Cloning technology to be used by Crew Members without necessitating being in a pod. I am thinking about the overseer effect of the so called "Pirate" implant sets and seeing if the increased data stream and compression technologies would help with this but so far my research hasn't been able to fashion a device that works with any degree of success.
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Now, I have to say you've overestimated the support for Heth among the Caldari paramilitaries with any real influence. In fact I believe the majority of Fractionite declarations have been against Heth's detractors. Is your intel really that faulty or are you being deceptive about your true motives?
I am not being deceptive at all. In fact the three corporations that have surrendered to us and have left the Milita have been left well alone as soon as word of their surrender comes in. I myself gave the hold fire order on the last such declaration only yesterday. In regards to the support of Heth within the capsuleer corps I am not 100% sure how far reaching it is as we don't have any social intelligence operatives in any of the Caldari loyalist corps (that I am aware of). Having said that the issue is not one of the direct personal support of Heth from individual pilots or their corporations but rather one of the support that simply fighting for the Militia gives him "back home" as it is said. The more the State Militia succeeds in capturing and securing systems or destroying Federate/Republic vessels the more popular support Heth is likely to get from the public at large increasing his holdover the State and his influence universe wide. In order to reduce the chance for this to happen we strive to remove this from Heth. When Heth no longer has this public support then those within the State who wish to remove him will find it so much easier.
In the end we do what we do because we feel it will help the universe and ourselves. Others think the same of what they do. It is human nature, Transhuman or otherwise, to assume what you think is right is right. Through dialoge we can hope to come to some understanding of the other's viewpoint without it we are left to guns and missiles.
Lastly I would like to address one small issue. I am not a follower or adherent of Jade. I work along side her. I find her viewpoint somewhat similar to my own on many key issues for me. I have come to think of her as a friend over the last year. To assume that those amongst the ranks of Star Fraction slavishly follow what Jade tells us would be a mistake. Obviously we operate under a common ROE and a common plan but this is not the will of Jade it is the general will of the Star Fraction Freecaptains.
Fly Free Hamish.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.08 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Victoria Ehr Giggling with her feet propped up on the desk, reading this Gallente propaganda while sipping a quafe mocha delight. "They are so silly, Tibus Heth is a giant of a man. When one champion falls, another rises. No amount of pressure will stop the plan. The Caldari State is strong as ever!"
Really... a Quafe mocha delight? Quiet the patriot there. If you can't tell I am being sarcastic.
Can you please stop embarrassing yourself, your family, and your corporation?
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Chema Opulat
Delictum 23216 San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.08.08 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: Victoria Ehr Giggling with her feet propped up on the desk, reading this Gallente propaganda while sipping a quafe mocha delight. "They are so silly, Tibus Heth is a giant of a man. When one champion falls, another rises. No amount of pressure will stop the plan. The Caldari State is strong as ever!"
Really... a Quafe mocha delight? Quiet the patriot there. If you can't tell I am being sarcastic.
Can you please stop embarrassing yourself, your family, and your corporation?
Mr Scagga like that sometime.
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.08.08 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Hamish Grayson on 08/08/2008 22:47:05
Originally by: Heartstone ...three corporations that have surrendered to us and have left the Milita
Cutting away the weak makes the rest of us stronger.
I've been on the receiving end of enough Fractionite 'Phy-ops' to know that I cannot afford to believe this is anything but an elaborate game you are playing.
Originally by: Heartstone
...most if not all of us regret the loss of life our campaigns cause and can only hope that it will be worth it. It is one of the reasons that I am personally trying to develop a version of the Pod Cloning technology to be used by Crew Members...
Your mockery is more subtle this time but you give yourself away here. It's almost flattering that you have such a complete dossier on a lowly Lieutenant. There will be no further communication between us. ============================================
It is said the warrior's is the twofold way of pen and sword |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hamish Grayson
I've been on the receiving end of enough Fractionite 'Phy-ops' to know that I cannot afford to believe this is anything but an elaborate game you are playing.
Of course I can't change your mind on this one so we shall simply have to agree to disagree on this particular subject.
Originally by: Heartstone
...most if not all of us regret the loss of life our campaigns cause and can only hope that it will be worth it. It is one of the reasons that I am personally trying to develop a version of the Pod Cloning technology to be used by Crew Members...
Your mockery is more subtle this time but you give yourself away here. It's almost flattering that you have such a complete dossier on a lowly Lieutenant. There will be no further communication between us.
At this one I just have to ask "Er what?". There was no mockery in that but simple statement of fact. Still if you no longer wish to converse then I will see you around the universe.
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.09 04:51:00 -
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The principle reason for the recent drop of effiency in the Caldari Militia is actually very simple, greed.
The very basis of our society revolves around profitable enterprise, and now that many pilots have sated their interest, and come to terms that there is no financial reward, have turned their back on the state in pursuit of more lucrative activities.
Ofcourse there are, is, and will be more, loyal fighters at hand, the largest problem within in the Caldari Militia is no lack of purpose, but lack of wallet.
For the record on the matter of the Secreteriate, they have never once contributed anything to the cause other than idle bicker and superfluous ideas on how best to control a rabble.
Judging from my own experiance in this matter, a private corporation will inevitably rise from this chaos and recruit all the willing true soldiers at the State's disposal to turn our fortunes, be it Achmed Fleet or another.
As for now however, the Protectorate itself is no better than the War Academy and filled largely by the same caliber of idiot.
Adding to our dismay is the very recent increase in Gallente effiency in the matter of true Faction Warfare, it seems they are eager to make up for their front line cowardice by replacing it with tactical genious. In any case, it makes for interesting times for this pilot.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.08.09 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hurtado Soneka Adding to our dismay is the very recent increase in Gallente effiency in the matter of true Faction Warfare, it seems they are eager to make up for their front line cowardice by replacing it with tactical genious. In any case, it makes for interesting times for this pilot.
What is this "front line cowardice" you speak of? From where I'm standing, it's the Caldari militia that's been afraid to engage these past few days - in Odamia, in Covryn, even in their own systems. Not that I'm saying that this means that all of the Caldari militia are cowards, far from it, but the Dead Parrot Shoppe have been operating pretty much unopposed in Caldari space, with fairly obvious results. -----
CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting. |

Hurtado Soneka
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:07:00 -
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I mainly refer to the siege like mindset of the Gallente forces not to attack our forces head on even with superior numbers, and again based on my own experiances since I cannot call on either evidence or speak for enemy fleets. I count only 1 occassion during my 1 1/2 month of continuous fighting on the Caldari front that I have been attacked by an opposing fleet which wasnt result of a jump in from another system. Many pilots have the same frustation as my own, cheifly the result of the evading enemy. I'll concede however as of late, the tables are turning, perhaps to the point that the Caldari/Gallente position has all but reversed since the start of the war.
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Not that I'm saying that this means that all of the Caldari militia are cowards, far from it, but the Dead Parrot Shoppe have been operating pretty much unopposed in Caldari space, with fairly obvious results.
The Dead Parrots like to bark very loud about these raids and results, I honestly cant say I have seen anything or can even merit anything to these fine people other than setting up a POS in one of our sovereign systems. Which was a fine move by the way, however again I fail to see what bearing, if any, this has on the war.
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Rodney Caston
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hurtado Soneka The Dead Parrots like to bark very loud about these raids and results, I honestly cant say I have seen anything or can even merit anything to these fine people other than setting up a POS in one of our sovereign systems. Which was a fine move by the way, however again I fail to see what bearing, if any, this has on the war.
http://fwstats.eve-ic.net/
/squawk.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:41:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Hurtado Soneka The Dead Parrots like to bark very loud about these raids and results, I honestly cant say I have seen anything or can even merit anything to these fine people other than setting up a POS in one of our sovereign systems. Which was a fine move by the way, however again I fail to see what bearing, if any, this has on the war.
So Enaluri and Nennamalia have no bearing on the war? -----
CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting. |

Dealer Alexia
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:54:00 -
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Edited by: Dealer Alexia on 09/08/2008 06:59:20
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc, where shall we begin?
They found a way to hunt the militia even while they hid away in the safety of Jita and Motsu... then they repeated this scheme multiple times to the point of predictability.
yet the Caldari Militia, did nothing...
Then they went deep into Caldari controlled space, and planted a Deathstar POS, then announced it to them as if putting a giant "Kick Me" sign on it.
yet the Caldari Militia, did nothing...
Then they flipped two Caldari systems on the same day...
yet the Caldari Militia, do nothing.
I'll go back to waiting... <yawn>
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Corewin
Achmed Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.09 13:05:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Corewin on 09/08/2008 13:09:11
Originally by: Dealer Alexia
Then they flipped two Caldari systems on the same day...
yet the Caldari Militia ...
There will always be the inevitable loses in war. Tactically speaking these victories hold no significance, but in terms of morale, can be devastatingly effective. So I will concede to FOOM that this was a well planned exercise.
However, there are greater things at work here. No amount of systems taken will truly change the landscape of the battles which take place in our little regions of space. No amount of systems taken will change the Gallente mind set that it is better to run than to fight. Better to give ground, than to stand in the way of that which is threatening your very lives.
Space is not controlled through a meaningless scheme of control bunkers and broken sovereignty. No, it is rather ruled by the occupier, usually left to roam free and uncontested. I will not ignore the blatant fact that Tama is indeed an example of the exact thing I just said. It is not, however, vital to our war effort and only those who do not understand this, meaninglessly lose ships and fleets to the those that occupy it. When the hostile forces are challenged, it turns into nothing more than a demonstration of Gallente ingenuity in running away and keeping enemies at bay. Despite all this, it is only one system. Yet when a Caldari fleet is in action, space becomes little more than our stomping ground, left to our own devices while these would be warriors cower in stations or admire at a distance.
And what of those who do stand and fight? While I admire the courage and the tenacity to fight us, I cannot say much for what I've seen in action. Fleet combat is an ultimate showing in force from both sides. A clash of titans, doing battle to the very last. It truly is a fantastic experience. Yet, I feel it may only be us now, who feel this way about it. At one time the Gallente could muster a force to oppose us in earnest, but now it seems that after crushing defeat after crushing defeat, dealt out by the sword of Achmed, the morale and financial reserves have been reduced to a trickle. I am not by any means gloating over this fact, but rather explaining my disappointment.
The Caldari militia is far from suffering. It is only those who know little of who is truly running this war machine that think so. Tibus Heth's influence on the militia is little more than a war he helped usher in. While the Secretariat has done nothing more than networking CEOs and FCs on his behalf. There is more at work here, than seen by the average militia member, and it is only lack of faith that breads fear and suffering.
See you on the battlefield. -Corewin
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.09 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dealer Alexia
Then they went deep into Caldari controlled space, and planted a Deathstar POS, then announced it to them as if putting a giant "Kick Me" sign on it.
yet the Caldari Militia, did nothing...
Then they flipped two Caldari systems on the same day...
yet the Caldari Militia ...
Perhaps there is a bit of Intel in your statements.
Originally by: Corewin unhelpful definitions
By your own definitions this would mean the FDU is controlling large areas of Black Rise. You aren't helping.
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Kane Kuchera
Amarr Achmed Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.09 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Kane Kuchera on 09/08/2008 13:59:48 Removed by poster due to concerns of causing possible offense by the "blatency of it" - Thanks, Kane. ACHMED FLEET FTW! |

Corewin
Achmed Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.09 13:54:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: Corewin unhelpful definitions
By your own definitions this would mean the FDU is controlling large areas of Black Rise. You aren't helping.
I see all talk and no action on the part of Lai Dai Infinity Systems. So until you start fighting, instead of dissecting my statements, kindly put your foot in your mouth.
My explanation only serves as a means to show the fruitlessness of being overly concerned with Concord's little capture the flag game. Black Rise is not occupied. I see hostile forces running away from approaching fleets. When fleets have stood and fought against us in Black Rise they have been slain with extreme prejudice. Roving bands of hostiles do not constitute as grave threats to the interests of the state.
I am growing tired of the negative rhetoric on the part of the few who speak out about this war. Your skewed opinion of this war only amplifies my distaste of those who only talk, rather than act.
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Kane Kuchera
Amarr Achmed Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.09 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Kane Kuchera on 09/08/2008 14:06:18 Edited by: Kane Kuchera on 09/08/2008 14:05:33
Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: Dealer Alexia
Then they went deep into Caldari controlled space, and planted a Deathstar POS, then announced it to them as if putting a giant "Kick Me" sign on it.
yet the Caldari Militia, did nothing...
Then they flipped two Caldari systems on the same day...
yet the Caldari Militia ...
Perhaps there is a bit of Intel in your statements.
Originally by: Corewin unhelpful definitions
By your own definitions this would mean the FDU is controlling large areas of Black Rise. You aren't helping.
Perhaps when I see you fighting, dying and throwing ISK down the preverbial sink I'll listen to your oppinion.
Untill then, I say this. You've never been in my fleets, whether commanded directly by my self or Corewin in my sted. If you haven't been in an Achmed Fleet Operation against the spunk weazels then you as far as I am concerned not even a member of this milita. Away to your dusty shed where you manufactor crappy ammo's and sell at an extortiante price to those who fight to keep said shed intact. ACHMED FLEET FTW! |

Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.09 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dex Nederland on 09/08/2008 14:35:39 You have quiet the high opinion of yourself?
Quote: If you haven't been in an Achmed Fleet Operation against the spunk weazels then you as far as I am concerned not even a member of this milita.
So do you get to leave Nourv, or does the Star Fraction keep you in station pretty much?
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Corewin
Achmed Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.09 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland Edited by: Dex Nederland on 09/08/2008 14:35:39 You have quiet the high opinion of yourself?
Quote: If you haven't been in an Achmed Fleet Operation against the spunk weazels then you as far as I am concerned not even a member of this milita.
So do you get to leave Nourv, or does the Star Fraction keep you in station pretty much?
Dex your clueless responses only further the claim that without action there is nothing behind words. You run on the same system of remarks, repeating them over and over in an attempt to sound as if you know more than you truly do. The fact of the matter is you really don't know any more than what has been said here by the people who think the same as you and the Gallente sympathizers. You really need to get your facts straight before you run off your mouth. Kane, however, does think highly of himself... *cough*
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 15:05:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 09/08/2008 15:06:00
Originally by: Corewin Edited by: Corewin on 09/08/2008 13:09:11 Fantasy... -Corewin
First the caldari claim that there losses are unimportant because they are fighting the real war of capturing systems. Now you claim that capturing systems is unimportant because you are fighting the real war of killing pilots and controlling space via military dominance.
You've flipped 2 systems in your "real war" and now we've fliped 3. Gallente is a point ahead here.
You claim that you are dominating in controlling space via your forces... yet you Caldari have lost fleet after fleet to the Gallente militia and Gallente corporations. Kill statistics recorded by IC still show that pilot for pilot and total numbers Gallente are far in the lead.
Your fantasy isn't holding up in the light of available facts.
I find it hilarious that as Nennemalia fell, the Caldari Militia knew about it and went to Old Man Star instead. Dominating space? yes we are accomplishing the dominance of your space where we go... in Nourve, in Jita, in Motsu, in Enulari, in Nennemalia, in Black Rise.
FOOM and company are not hard to find and we are quite willing to fight with numbers against us. We don't suicide but we don't hide. In our time in Black Rise there have been several fleet engagments. Yet while the threat is in Black Rise, Odamia and Corwyn, Caldari go to OMS.
Enulari fell yesterday and there was no response, no mention on the news wires, no caring by the Caldari Militia. Nennamalia fell and you went to OMS. Black Rise will fall around you and you will still be flying the Tama OMS corridor while system after system is taken away from you and ship after ship is lost by you. And the only pilots who seem to care is Daniel Jackson. Caldari? where is your juggernaut?
Come bring your fight to us as we have brought the fight to you. And maybe the fantasy will appear less fanciful to New Eden. And maybe the fantasy will only prove to be that... a fantasy. Search: Sky Grunthor |

Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.09 15:11:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Dex Nederland on 09/08/2008 15:15:08 Edited by: Dex Nederland on 09/08/2008 15:13:16 Edited by: Dex Nederland on 09/08/2008 15:12:51 What facts do you have that make you so much more an authority?
I don't work with you, correct, and you are unlikely to see my corporation working with you. You accuse my corporation of not taking part based on the same amount of evidence I have that you are taking part. We don't operate in the same area or along the same fronts of this war, which is a good thing; but we both are taking part.
Originally by: "Corewin" My explanation only serves as a means to show the fruitlessness of being overly concerned with Concord's little capture the flag game. Black Rise is not occupied. I see hostile forces running away from approaching fleets. When fleets have stood and fought against us in Black Rise they have been slain with extreme prejudice. Roving bands of hostiles do not constitute as grave threats to the interests of the state.
CONCORD's game of capture the flag, that is what the war is. We have lost 2 systems, period; it is all of our faults and no amount of spin will change that.
Edit: If you really want, Sky Gunthor might verify my presence in the same system as her in Black Rise on multiple occasions, if not the same local area of space.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 15:21:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Dex Nederland
Edit: If you really want, Sky Gunthor might verify my presence in the same system as her in Black Rise on multiple occasions, if not the same local area of space.
I'll give you a wave in local sometime... and maybe the end of my guns if the chance permits. But, should the war end tomorrow... I'll have some Seibestor highland tea with you over a meal in station. Search: Sky Grunthor |
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