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Pithecanthropus	Posted - 2008.08.05 12:43:00 - [1] Observing from the inside, I've noticed the last month smaller fleets and less of them... slow formation of any fleet... and slow response time to move out. Not to mention a lack of quality ships, quality pvpers, and quality FCs. This all leads back to one instance... the people who chose to overthrow the Secreteriate and the only Caldari Militia organization we had. Since then I've waited for those who threatened 'civil war' to step up and show they can lead... or at least help provide a new foundation for the State. But... sadly, no... quite honestly, I'm not even sure if those same disgruntled people are still part of the Caldari Militia. Caldari has no communication... no clear form of leadership... no organization... we are scrambling hard and struggling to even face a 10 man gate camp. Caldari... back to the wall, no where to go... and no one cares. The fate of us is closing in. Sad to say, I am not tossing out propaganda. This is true and if there was anytime to destroy this militia, it is NOW. --------------------------------- Pithecanthropus erectus, a name derived from Greek and Latin roots meaning upright ape-man.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.05 13:36:00 - [2] Originally by: Pithecanthropus This all leads back to one instance... the people who chose to overthrow the Secreteriate and the only Caldari Militia organization we had. Since then I've waited for those who threatened 'civil war' to step up and show they can lead... or at least help provide a new foundation for the State. But... sadly, no... quite honestly, I'm not even sure if those same disgruntled people are still part of the Caldari Militia. I think you give to much credit to the so called "Secreteriate" and their Heth-like grab at power and too little credit to the pilots and former pilots of the Militia itself. A number of self proclaimed "Command and Control" militia corporations have left the state militia over the last month seeing that their support of the Militia is not only self defeating but helping to support the much maligned Heth Regime whether that was their original intention or not. It seems both your observations on the current readiness of the State Protectorate and my own views agree on the lack of a competent command structure but I respectfully disagree on who it was that was truly leading the militia. ---
Hamish Grayson Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2008.08.05 14:37:00 - [3] When I was a child my fencing tutor asked my fellow pupils and I to reflect on the meaning of the word ôwarrior.ö First he asked us if it meant the same thing as the word ôfighterö and we answered that no, simply fighting doesnÆt make a warrior because there are rules a warrior follows. Then he asked if ôfighterö was not a suitable synonym, was ôvictorö and we answered no warriors will lose, and the people who win arenÆt always what a warrior should be. How about the word ôconquerorö he asked and after some thought our reply was that no a conqueror may simply command enough power to overcome opposition. He can be very lacking in the ethical beliefs that should be part of a warriorÆs life. How about ôkillerö he asked finally and again our answer was no because a warrior may be required to kill, but it should be for a purpose or cause greater than his own welfare, for an ideal. Many of State Protectorate pilots fight for personal glory or fight simply because they enjoy fighting. The do not fight to preserve the Caldari culture, and they do not consider the lives of their crewmen nor the lives of their enemyÆs crewmen in their quest to stave of boredom for a few more hours. We cannot place our trust in these men and women even when they gain a ævictoryÆ or æconquerÆ a star system because in the end they will not be there when they are really needed. Many more fight out of hatred for the Gallente, killing out of hate is murder, it shows that you have no honor or regard for human life. A warrior knows how to control his anger. These people cannot control themselves, and so we must not place our faith in them. If the STAPRO mob is finally collapsing then this is a good thing because the thugs and murders will be burned out and the true warriors that remain will grow stronger. ============================================ It is said the warrior's is the twofold way of pen and sword
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.05 14:58:00 - [4] Ah it is good that you, Hamish, the paragon of what it is to be a warrior are here to enlighten us on the true nature of the universe. Without your guiding light it would be impossible for those of us who scratch around in the dark to see the truth and the way. I only hope it is not too late for me when the revelation comes to me as well. What holds me back from becoming one with the Warrior inside myself I here you ask? What could possibly stop me from rushing forward to embrace the perfection of being? Well unfortunately I can't bring myself to slavishly prop up a Megalomaniacal racist like Heth and then proclaim that I am in fact against the very person I am helping to keep in power. One day maybe I will finally free myself from the inability to spout hypocrisy wherever I turn but for now, brave warrior, I will leave it to you and yours to do this for all of us. ---
Malen Nenokal Eden Federal Recon	Posted - 2008.08.05 15:05:00 - [5] The State has a cruel history of civil dispute. Even with Tibus' attempts to rally them to a cause, and unite them with a common enemy, they still cannot work together. Eden Federal Recon
Hamish Grayson Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2008.08.05 16:05:00 - [6] I've learned from experience that conversing with a member of your cult is counterproductive but I'm curious; do you mock me for my distaste over killing for sport or for celebrating the collapse of Heth's war machine? ============================================ It is said the warrior's is the twofold way of pen and sword
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.05 16:33:00 - [7] I think it is very clear Hamish. I mock you for your continued support of Heth regime by being part of the Caldari militia which, despite protests to the contrary, in my opinion both helps support and legitimizes Heth's governance. I had much more respect for the Independent Navy Reserve when it was independent and not a puppet of Heth's. ---
Saul Elsyn Sturmvogel Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.05 17:07:00 - [8] Truth be told, both militias are rather disorganized bans of fighters, and both are suffering from combat fatigue, fiscal problems, and a lack of solid leadership. At this point neither side can gain a definite upper hand in the region of Black Rise, unlike the much clearer wins that the Minmatar have had over our Amarrian Allies.
Hamish Grayson Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2008.08.05 17:19:00 - [9] I understand why someone with your background might feel that way, Star Fraction has a whole has historically failed to realize that change to the Caldari society cannot be made from the outside and especially not through violence against state citizens. ============================================ It is said the warrior's is the twofold way of pen and sword
Dai'nin Roi'nin Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2008.08.05 17:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Saul Elsyn At this point neither side can gain a definite upper hand in the region of Black Rise, unlike the much clearer wins that the Minmatar have had over our Amarrian Allies. Per pilot, the loyal servants of the Emperor are winning.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2008.08.05 18:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Pithecanthropus Caldari Militia is suffering. Good. Star Fraction \| Dare to Dream!
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.05 18:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Dai'nin Roi'nin Per pilot, the loyal servants of the Emperor are winning. The "points" system is just to allow the masses to see which team is winning. To the majority of the population this is but a giant gladiatorial game for their amusement. To us it is the real war between the empire. In truth it seems that the core four and concord have found a nice new way to keep everyone distracted. ---
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.05 19:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Dai'nin Roi'nin Per pilot, the loyal servants of the Emperor are winning. Well of course the Amarrians have a larger per-pilot score. They have so few pilots compared to the other three militias that the averages are skewed. Given that so far you've got the lowest confirmed kill count, the lowest "victory point" count, lost eight systems and have only just managed to reclaim one of those, the reality for the Amarrians is a lot bleaker. But this really isn't a problem for me. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Borg9	Posted - 2008.08.05 19:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Hamish Grayson When I was a child my fencing tutor asked my fellow pupils and I to reflect on the meaning of the word ôwarrior.ö First he asked us if it meant the same thing as the word ôfighterö and we answered that no, simply fighting doesnÆt make a warrior because there are rules a warrior follows. Then he asked if ôfighterö was not a suitable synonym, was ôvictorö and we answered no warriors will lose, and the people who win arenÆt always what a warrior should be. How about the word ôconquerorö he asked and after some thought our reply was that no a conqueror may simply command enough power to overcome opposition. He can be very lacking in the ethical beliefs that should be part of a warriorÆs life. How about ôkillerö he asked finally and again our answer was no because a warrior may be required to kill, but it should be for a purpose or cause greater than his own welfare, for an ideal. Many of State Protectorate pilots fight for personal glory or fight simply because they enjoy fighting. The do not fight to preserve the Caldari culture, and they do not consider the lives of their crewmen nor the lives of their enemyÆs crewmen in their quest to stave of boredom for a few more hours. We cannot place our trust in these men and women even when they gain a ævictoryÆ or æconquerÆ a star system because in the end they will not be there when they are really needed. Many more fight out of hatred for the Gallente, killing out of hate is murder, it shows that you have no honor or regard for human life. A warrior knows how to control his anger. These people cannot control themselves, and so we must not place our faith in them. If the STAPRO mob is finally collapsing then this is a good thing because the thugs and murders will be burned out and the true warriors that remain will grow stronger. tl;dr version. We kills u till ur dead
Borg9	Posted - 2008.08.05 19:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Pithecanthropus Caldari Militia is suffering. Good. Whoa a biased csm.....CCP remove him/her from csm immediately
Pithecanthropus	Posted - 2008.08.05 21:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Heartstone I think you give to much credit to the so called "Secreteriate" and their Heth-like grab at power and too little credit to the pilots and former pilots of the Militia itself. A number of self proclaimed "Command and Control" militia corporations have left the state militia over the last month seeing that their support of the Militia is not only self defeating but helping to support the much maligned Heth Regime whether that was their original intention or not. It seems both your observations on the current readiness of the State Protectorate and my own views agree on the lack of a competent command structure but I respectfully disagree on who it was that was truly leading the militia. I'm simply calling attention to what was once the base of the State and its war. Organization is the key. Whether the Secreteriate was the key or not, was never given the chance to be seen. But people felt organized... the felt secure under the nose of leaderships actually doing something. War is not just the sword, its also the brain and the heart. As it is now, people are wielding swords without brain and hurting themselves more than their opposition. Until the State can find its missing elements, they will continue to dwindle and fail. At least at one point, early in the war... we had faces, voices, names of leaders who put forth more effort in a few days than I have seen in the entire last month. --------------------------------- Pithecanthropus erectus, a name derived from Greek and Latin roots meaning upright ape-man.
Victoria Ehr State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.05 21:50:00 - [17] The State Militia is doing well enough. Throughout the war thus far, the Gallente continue to take slightly fewer losses in "ships" however the cost of their losses are roughly 20 to 40 percent more than Caldari in ISK. We do not have waves of 150 ships like we did at the start of the war, however what we do have is enough to face our enemy. While some Caldari pilots fly expensive t2 ships, others fly cheaper ships just to get in the fight and help the State. I am sorry Pithecanthropus, your propaganda will not effect the State, we are not fickle like the spoiled Gallente. -------------------------------------------- The path to power is up!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.05 22:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Victoria Ehr The State Militia is doing well enough. Throughout the war thus far, the Gallente continue to take slightly fewer losses in "ships" however the cost of their losses are roughly 20 to 40 percent more than Caldari in ISK. A patently untrue assertion - a quick look at 3rd-party GalNet statistics indicate Caldari monetary losses are much higher than Gallente. Even if you are losing less expensive ships, you're losing a lot more of them. Originally by: Victoria Ehr I am sorry Pithecanthropus, your propaganda will not effect the State, we are not fickle like the spoiled Gallente. Continue thinking us spoiled and incompetent. Overconfident enemies are far easier to kill. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.08.05 22:25:00 - [19] Submitting to involvement in the CONCORD approved militia system is the only means by which any organization can effectively defend the CONCORD approved systems from being occupied by opposition forces. The system established by CONCORD requires pilots and corporations be registered in order to secure friendly and enemy installations and outpost. If an organization's goal involves the defense of that space against foreign intrusion, they must join the militia system to be effective. The Star Fraction has utilized CONCORD's war declaration system extensively to prosecute wars against its various capsuleer enemies. Based on your own arguments in relation to CAIN, your organization thus supports and legitimizes CONCORD's authority, despite statements to the contrary. If I am confused on your collective attitude towards CONCORD and if you do collectively support its authority then what I have said is invalidated, but from my understanding you do not support CONCORD. You are applying a standard to your enemies that you do not meet yourselves. Perhaps that is out of respect for your enemies and that you have come to expect a certain standard from them, but I highly doubt that is the reasoning. Founder Heiian Society
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.08.05 22:51:00 - [20] Nederland, their mesh of double standards has become so byzantine it's hard to fathom exactly what, if anything, they want. Essentially they want complete anarchy... enforced by a strong anarch. They want to tear down governments and authorities... after which time they will be the authority on making sure new governments and authorities don't appear. They want people to think for themselves... but only so long as they don't think about making large-scale governments. They're terrorists and insurgents with a prettier name. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Borg9	Posted - 2008.08.06 00:01:00 - [21] I find that in war losses are to be expected. The results of losses though should equal the gain of territory. Gal are obviously more skilled then the Caldari but the Caldari are winning the war. But at an alliance standpoint the Mim/Gal alliance are goin to crush the Cal/Amarr alliance b/c of the absence of Amarr troops. (srry for OOC post Mitnal)
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:33:00 - [22] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Nederland, their mesh of double standards has become so byzantine it's hard to fathom exactly what, if anything, they want. Essentially they want complete anarchy... enforced by a strong anarch. They want to tear down governments and authorities... after which time they will be the authority on making sure new governments and authorities don't appear. They want people to think for themselves... but only so long as they don't think about making large-scale governments. They're terrorists and insurgents with a prettier name. The core of their belief, posthumanisim, is that being a pod pilot makes one greater than, something other than human, in more ways than just quasi-immortality. This is the thing I most reject. Clone technology and a nest of implants does not do away with a person's humanity, for all the good and ill that entails. (And neither does blowing them up repeatedly drive the idea home). (Oddly, Andreus, I saw a rather large entourage of Star Fraction ships traveling through Placid the other day, near Vrillier I think...I was chasing a war target and only passed them breifly at a stargate, so didn't get a chance to inquire over the system com channel. I don't know what's normal for them (are they working in Syndicate these days?) but in the absence of any active wardec so far as I know, it was rather strange.)
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Oddly, Andreus, I saw a rather large entourage of Star Fraction ships traveling through Placid the other day, near Vrillier I think...I was chasing a war target and only passed them breifly at a stargate, so didn't get a chance to inquire over the system com channel. I don't know what's normal for them (are they working in Syndicate these days?) but in the absence of any active wardec so far as I know, it was rather strange. Most likely pursuing war targets of their own. The Star Fraction has targeted State aligned corporations acting in what they believe to be a C2 role. They have yet to pay such an "honor" on any of the other national militias. Founder Heiian Society
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Dex Nederland Most likely pursuing war targets of their own. The Star Fraction has targeted State aligned corporations acting in what they believe to be a C2 role. They have yet to pay such an "honor" on any of the other national militias. Oh I know that well enough. Checked the Concord database to be sure though. A coupple standing feuds over nullsec politics (Goonswarm for one, and even SF can't be blamed for having them on their sh-- list)...two new ones as of 3 days ago, a coupple Caldari corps I haven't heard of before: "Legend's", who are also enlisted with the State Protectorate, and "Xercore"...they seem military but have rather little posted about themselves. Bit shy of 100 pilots between the two. To compound the oddness though, the search also listed them as having active wars with the Ammar and Caldari Navy...that must be a glitch? Concord doesn't permit alliance organizations to register for militias.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.08.06 11:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Dex Nederland Most likely pursuing war targets of their own. The Star Fraction has targeted State aligned corporations acting in what they believe to be a C2 role. They have yet to pay such an "honor" on any of the other national militias. Yeah, that was fun. We had a pleasing little brawl in Isanamo, as I recall. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.06 15:03:00 - [26] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman The core of their belief, posthumanisim, is that being a pod pilot makes one greater than, something other than human, in more ways than just quasi-immortality. This is the thing I most reject. Good to hear because we reject it as well. Posthumanisim has never been about being better than baseline humanity. I am sure there are those who believe that the technologies we embrace today as capsuleers some makes us somehow better than non capsuleers but that is such an arbitrary term I utterly reject it out of hand. The Trans/Posthumanism we talk about in Star Fraction is about the artificial evolution of the human species by technology. We believe we are significantly different to baseline humanity in many way because of the physiological and social effect technology has had on us. An important part of this belief, for me at least as all Freecaptains have their own personal views on many aspects of Transhumanism, is the simple fact that due to our extended lifespan and our increased ability to travel as we wish that old concepts of borders and restriction on movement become a direct restriction on the person's being which cannot be tolerated. In regard to why you have seen us in Placid I would only say that we move around a lot. We are not as nomadic as the Thukker but we don't stay in one place year after year. Over the last year we have been active all around New Eden and recently finished a training exercise for our new pilots in Syndicate. If you have need of finding us physically I suggest finding where the supporters of Tibus Heth are as we are likely to be there too. As to the question of CONCORD the answer is simple. We pay the demanded bribe to CONCORD to turn their backs because CONCORD are too powerful right now for us to stand against and if it comes to it we will pay the Devil's price so we can extend our operations into the heartland of the enemy. This of course is an old conversation which we have discussed both internally between ourselves and externally with those who would call us hypocrites on the issue. If it were also true that the only way to effect the "reign" of Heth was to ally with him I would not be critical of the CAIN or DUTY for doing so but I feel, as does the rest of Star Fraction, that it isn't the only way and that supporting the Militia actually strengthens his position. Of course should any members of CAIN or DUTY wish to converse on the issue I would be only too happy to do so. After all I am not a fanatic just an idealist. At present our current operations are indeed focused on the State Militia as Captain Nederland rightly pointed out. Although we did attack a Federate Militia organization at the beginning of this campaign. It is currently the opinion of the directorate of Star Fraction and the pilots and crews of Star Fraction that a Caldari State run by Tibus Heth is of more significant danger to our longed for future than any other which given our long running feud with the Amarr Empire Loyalist corporations certainly tells you something. The State had a promising future as we saw it under the governance of Otro Gariushi but the future we see for the State and any that could fall under their power in the era of Heth is extremely disturbing. As Andreus rightly points out we are Terrorists and Insurgents I thank him for saying we have a pretty name however. I cannot remember a time when we denied either of these titles. We are many things to many people. ---
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.08.06 18:25:00 - [27] Originally by: Heartstone If it were also true that the only way to effect the "reign" of Heth was to ally with him I would not be critical of the CAIN or DUTY for doing so but I feel, as does the rest of Star Fraction, that it isn't the only way and that supporting the Militia actually strengthens his position. Of course should any members of CAIN or DUTY wish to converse on the issue I would be only too happy to do so. After all I am not a fanatic just an idealist. I am not arguing that joining or leaving a national militia will have any effect on the politics of the State, Federation, Republic, or Empire. My argument is that in order for any organization to efficiently and effectively defend an organization or a people of their choosing against occupation by a foreign power participating via the Militia Act is the best means to do so. Taking my corporation as an example, working to defend the Lai Dai Corporation's assets and interest in Black Rise against possible Federation occupation (and likely interference in the corporation's operations) is best done by officially joining the Caldari State. Regardless of my corporation's or Lai Dai's political attitude towards the ideas and policies of Tibus Heth, CEO of KK, Ytiri, & CC; it is simply most effective and most efficient for my corporation to register officially with CONCORD as a member of the Caldari State in order to defend Lai Dai's assets against occupation by Federal forces. You are unwilling to accept the statements of those organizations that they do not support Tibus Heth and target them because you believe they do based on their participation in the defense of the Caldari people via the Milita Act. I, and others, can just as easily be unwilling to accept that you Originally by: Heartstone pay the demanded bribe to CONCORD to turn their backs because CONCORD are too powerful right now for (you) to stand against and if it comes to it (you) will pay the Devil's price so (you) can extend (your) operations into the heartland of the enemy. I can do this because I feel Originally by: Heartstone that it isn't the only way to extend your operations into the heartland of the enemy. Or perhaps we should both be willing to accept the reality of the situation and that sometimes one must pay the Oni's toll in order to achieve one's goals. Founder Heiian Society
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.06 19:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Dex Nederland My argument is that in order for any organization to efficiently and effectively defend an organization or a people of their choosing against occupation by a foreign power participating via the Militia Act is the best means to do so. You see this is where we differ in opinion Captain Nederland. I don't personally believe the people of the State are under any greater threat than they were before Heth took power. Least ways not from without the State. I personally see Heth as a more significant threat to the Caldari people than the Federation but of course that is a matter open to discussion from now until the ends of time. So far I have yet to see any reports from either the Caldari or Gallente side that shows any sort of abuse of the people in so called "captured" systems. Quote: Taking my corporation as an example, working to defend the Lai Dai Corporation's assets and interest in Black Rise against possible Federation occupation (and likely interference in the corporation's operations) is best done by officially joining the Caldari State. Again I respectfully have to disagree with you there. As an organization I would expect you would be able to have greater focus on your goals separate from the machinations of the State Militia and away from the control, light or heavy as it may be, of Heth. By exposing yourself to the regulations of the Militia Act I can only see you increase your vulnerabilities whilst limiting yourself in certain areas such as your range of operation. Quote: snip Or perhaps we should both be willing to accept the reality of the situation and that sometimes one must pay the Oni's toll in order to achieve one's goals. I agree of course that this is the case but the degree of the amount you need to pay the Oni's Tolls in order to achieve one's goals is what the core of the issue is about. To act as Star Fraction acts we simply cannot be precluded from any area of space without some chance of address. As you will know the technology CONCORD has access to is far beyond that of the core empires or anyone else excepting the Jove. If we didn't pay their toll we simply couldn't operate without seriously hampering our effectiveness. Overall I can see the argument for social change from within to replace Heth. I mean we use agents within social structures ourselves to that very end. I don't think a slow social change sparked by the "rebel" motivator would work fast enough to save the State from what I fear will happen to it under Heth however. The "rebel" is after all a slow and broad spectrum method of change whereas the "outlaw" is that of very focused but that much faster. Working within is certainly one way but in this case I would argue it is not the best way and to be perfectly blunt I think that support of the Militia helps Heth more than it can ever hinder him. That is why I would like to see the State Militia weakened. Not to hurt the Caldari people or the Corporations but to hurt the support for Heth that is generated from the people from the success of the Militia. If the State Militia had formed under the leadership of the great Otro Gariushi I personally doubt Star Fraction would have been involved in this conflict to any great extent. ---
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.08.06 23:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Heartstone You see this is where we differ in opinion Captain Nederland. I don't personally believe the people of the State are under any greater threat than they were before Heth took power. Least ways not from without the State. I personally see Heth as a more significant threat to the Caldari people than the Federation but of course that is a matter open to discussion from now until the ends of time. So far I have yet to see any reports from either the Caldari or Gallente side that shows any sort of abuse of the people in so called "captured" systems. You do not think because of Tibus Heth's leadership and the liberation of Caldari Prime the corporations and people of the State under threat from Federation retaliation? Would you expect the Federation to just say "Heth is no longer in charge, alright wars over."? Originally by: "Heartstone" Again I respectfully have to disagree with you there. As an organization I would expect you would be able to have greater focus on your goals separate from the machinations of the State Militia and away from the control, light or heavy as it may be, of Heth. By exposing yourself to the regulations of the Militia Act I can only see you increase your vulnerabilities whilst limiting yourself in certain areas such as your range of operation. The Lai Dai Corporation's and its direct subsidaries' assets are only within the bounds of the Caldari State. Yes the corporation has investments outside and exports products to other regions, but its immediate concerns and assets are in the Caldari State. By working for Lai Dai, my corporation will find its range of operations restricted much how they are now. The Federation (and Republic) has been involving itself in the internal affairs of State corporations for years to include Lai Dai and direct continuing combating of this interference restricts movement. The goals of my corporation do not line up with yours and thus neither do our concerns. Founder Heiian Society
Hamish Grayson Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2008.08.07 01:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Dex Nederland You do not think because of Tibus Heth's leadership and the liberation of Caldari Prime the corporations and people of the State under threat from Federation retaliation? Would you expect the Federation to just say "Heth is no longer in charge, alright wars over."? The Federation Navy is preparing for a massive retaliation while provist keep the citizenship blissfully focused on CONCORD's pointless capture the flag game. At least though, it's providing a decent training ground for when the real war starts. ============================================ It is said the warrior's is the twofold way of pen and sword

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