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Absimi Liard
Gallente
Confederate Miners Union of Eve
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.08.05 17:47:00 -
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Hello everyone,
I know my stuff normally is more Sci & Ind. than MD, but I do post here, and I think this is germane to the MD crowd so here it is.
My name is Absimi, and I'm a manufacturer. ("Hi Absimi" is the traditional response.)
Recently I've been experimenting with a new business model. I like building, I like market research, I like logistics, but I don't like monitoring sell orders. So I've been trying selling direct to traders at cost plus a 5% markup for my own profits.
So far I've been working with two traders, both of whom have expressed satisfaction with my service and the profit margins they've been making on my goods. Since I'm equally pleased with the quick turnover I'd like to broaden this experiment by looking for new clients and moving away from marketing my goods to selling direct to retailers for me.
I think this is good for me since even if I could make more than a 5% markup on my goods selling them on market this way I get faster turnover and keep my ISK in motion, rather than stagnant on the markets. For my partners it seems to help them since they have a secure source for buying goods that have decent markups and they make ISK that way as well. Since, so far, everyone wins I am a happy camper.
So I'm looking for more traders to sell product to. If you are interested in helping me make us all ISK let me know, either here or via an EVE-mail. I'll be happy to shoot any prospective partner a product list of the goods I am willing to build (all T1 modules or rigs) and a cost estimate. If you are then interested in buying any goods from me, let me know what, and where you'd like it delivered, and I'll happily send you an invoice for the actual costs incurred in the build (plus my 5% commission).
Additionally, if anyone can suggest improvements to my business model I'd be happy to listen. But I should warn you that anything that involves ". . . and pay more attention to the market so you can maintain higher profit margins" is very likely to get shot down by me. My priorities are to have a high sales volume, and not put a lot of real-life time into it.
Anywhoo, have a good day MD. I don't think I can come close to offering the amusement value that the SCAM IPO thread is offering, but I hope folks will at least enjoy reading about my crazy idea and mocking me roundly for such idiocy. (or congratulating me on being canny in business, take your choice)
-abs
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Gremrod
Minmatar
DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:00:00 -
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I will bite. Send me an eve-mail of the products you build and your price with the 5% markup and I will look it over and see if we can do business.
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Khalina Drakona
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:06:00 -
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Same here, I'm a small fry but I'm always looking for an edge.
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Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:18:00 -
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Always looking for stuff.
CELESTE LOTTERIES |
Gemineia
Rakeriku
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:27:00 -
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swing one my way too please
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Hel O'Ween
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:53:00 -
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If you don't mind, send me an EVEMail as well.
TIA,
Hel
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EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
Absimi Liard
Gallente
Confederate Miners Union of Eve
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.08.05 23:21:00 -
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Eve-mails sent.
Hopefully this will be the start of an excellent relationship for us all. May we all make profits and keep our ISK in motion.
-abs
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Maestro Del'Tirith
Del'Tirith Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.06 02:38:00 -
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I'd like the opportunity to expand the amount of my orders...please let me know if this is possible.
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Absimi Liard
Gallente
Confederate Miners Union of Eve
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.08.06 03:24:00 -
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Gladly ser Del'Tirith.
I'll make a point of speaking with you in-game.
-abs
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.06 04:47:00 -
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Is there room for an organized syndicate like this, or is MD just too rigid?
I personally sell my product well below the lowest open market prices, but I sell directly to a consumer of this product, rather than to a trader. High volume goods can be taxing to push across the market, and personally, I dislike the whole trading thing anyway. So, as a producer, I definitely like the idea of sacrificing profits for steady, no-frills sales.
Packtu'sa [NCIC]
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp |
Ishanty
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Posted - 2008.08.06 05:07:00 -
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I'm intrested, send me a evemail or a convo and we'll work something out.
I will state in advance that i'm rather busy in other fields at this point but talk won't hurt.
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Absimi Liard
Gallente
Confederate Miners Union of Eve
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.08.06 05:10:00 -
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Edited by: Absimi Liard on 06/08/2008 05:11:37
I agree with you entirely.
That's why I'm trying to perfect this. I'd far prefer to sell to professional traders. Let them take the higher profit, and in return also assume the market risk, the attention day-trading requires, the annoyance of multi-region distribution systems, etc.
I expect that if I get enough volume I'll be more than happy with the results. Eveyone in Sci & Ind seems to take moral offense at the concept of not selling at market price, for the best profit possible.
But I'm convinced volume sales are far more useful. And that means wholesaling, and recognizing that as a builder I'm a wholesaler not a retailer.
Hopefully I'm correct.
-abs
{edit} Ishanty, I'm off to bed, but I'll be sure get you an introductory letter and my product list tomorrow EVE. {/edit}
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Thurin Tau
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Posted - 2008.08.06 05:22:00 -
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Im a small fry in the wide world of retail but im always looking for new trading oportunities that make every 1 smile. ;)
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Veritech knight
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Posted - 2008.08.06 05:29:00 -
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please eve-mail products list and some example prices.
serious buyer (especially if you sell ships).
thanks
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.08.06 05:38:00 -
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I'd be interested in buying ships.
If anyone is interested in buying T2 components I might be able to sell some at 10% markup, or 15% markdown from lowest sell price, depending on the item.
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Raylyn Yu
Minmatar
University of Hard Knocks
Lords of the Damned
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Posted - 2008.08.06 06:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
I'd be interested in buying ships.
If anyone is interested in buying T2 components I might be able to sell some at 10% markup, or 15% markdown from lowest sell price, depending on the item.
Send me an eve mail in game, I'd like to get something setup.
PS: that 100k isk charge is harsh!
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Beep boop I'm a robot |
Devlin d'Arc
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
I'd be interested in buying ships.
If anyone is interested in buying T2 components I might be able to sell some at 10% markup, or 15% markdown from lowest sell price, depending on the item.
Hieronimus, I am interested in purchasing bulk T2 components. Please contact me with details via evemail. If anyone else is providing a similar service, please contact me as well.
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Absimi Liard
Gallente
Confederate Miners Union of Eve
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:29:00 -
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Good morn sers Tau, Ishanty, and Knight, I just got an eve-mail out to you all introducing myself and a second one with my product list and cost estimates.
I'm afraid I'm not a ship-builder. I do possess a Catalyst BPO, but I generally find it's not worth my time to build. I can be a little picky about what I'm willing to build. In order for me to consider offering a product I require it to meet several criteria including market sales volume, a profit margin of over 20%, a net profit per run of 150 of over 1 million ISK, and that it have a low production time, and a BPO I can afford to buy. T1 modules and rigs both suit my criteria, ships almost never do.
So, given the high costs of ship BPOs, the slow speed of building them, the low profit margins, and the low net profit on the BPOs I can afford, pluss the added low sales volume a ship type normally has I don't work in ships nor plan on adding them to my product list.
Though I might be willing to do a special order it would involve some negotiations.
Sorry.
-abs
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Kaivos
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:37:00 -
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Hi Absimi,
I am also interested of doing business with you. Please send me your list of products and prices. Ill check up your list and see if we can start doing trades.
thanks, Kaivos.
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flakeys
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:39:00 -
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Could both the OP and Hieronimus Rex send me an indication of what they are selling and pricing please.
Thanks
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Elliptic Curve
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Posted - 2008.08.06 21:42:00 -
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G¦day
Likewise, could you please sned me the details of item type, price and location and I'll be in touch!
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.08.07 01:54:00 -
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Edited by: Hieronimus Rex on 07/08/2008 01:55:21
Edited by: Hieronimus Rex on 07/08/2008 01:55:14
Originally by: Raylyn Yu
Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
I'd be interested in buying ships.
If anyone is interested in buying T2 components I might be able to sell some at 10% markup, or 15% markdown from lowest sell price, depending on the item.
Send me an eve mail in game, I'd like to get something setup.
PS: that 100k isk charge is harsh!
Had to make sure anyone evemailing me meant SERIOUS BUSINESS. Also I think I was getting chinese farmer offers for spending too much time in Jita, so I wanted to punish them a bit.
Originally by: flakeys
Could both the OP and Hieronimus Rex send me an indication of what they are selling and pricing please.
Thanks
In theory I would be selling any T2 component - namely whatever I think would make the most ISK when I produce it, either at a 10% markup from cost or a 15% markdown from the low sell, whichever is higher. That was the initial offer and of course those %s may change depending on what counteroffers I get.
EC I'll try to get you too.
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Thurin Tau
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Posted - 2008.08.07 03:42:00 -
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Will be back on in leter on and will check then, you will hear from me then.
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Mephie
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Posted - 2008.08.07 04:59:00 -
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I'm in a similar situation; I hate the daytrading.
Drop me a line in-game if you're looking for minerals.
--Meph
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Wadaya
Caldari
Trailerpark Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.07 08:17:00 -
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Send me a complete list of the products and their prices you are offering and perhaps we can work out a deal.
Wad
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Ghay Hanza
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Posted - 2008.08.08 11:47:00 -
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Hi
I buy ALL kind of products/craps people don't have time to sell.
I'm serious, this is my main activity.
Have to bring your stuff to Jita (yeah, I know... I'm a trader, not a hauler) but I pay good.
I can move sometimes, but send me a stuff/prices list.
Best regards.
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Absimi Liard
Gallente
Confederate Miners Union of Eve
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.08.08 14:39:00 -
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Sorry it's been a crazy week. (IRL my company moved offices last weekend, and as a sysadmin sort it's made me quite busy.) So allow me to apologize for not responding until now.
I'll get an introductory letter and my product list out to everyone here who asked for one tonight.
-abs
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Aravian
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Posted - 2008.08.08 14:52:00 -
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I am also interested in a product/pricing list. Thanks
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Icahmura Hasaki
Caldari
Free Market Enterprizes
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.08.08 15:09:00 -
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Hey there, could you drop me an email aswell? Cheers
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Golanbat
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Posted - 2008.08.08 16:30:00 -
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Please send me a copy of the introductory letter. Thanks.
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