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Delichon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
It messes up the economy
Removing insurance for conkordokken ships will actually cure inflation. Because:
Runner A earns 1 bil isk and buys 1 bil worth of modules Ganker B buys 1 bil worth of isk in ships and insuranse Ganker B kills Runner A and get's 500 mil in A's modules + 700 to 900 mill in insurance payouts (depending on the price of the ship before insurance)
Economy has 1.2 to 1.4 bill ISK now.
After the patch Runner A earns 1 bill ISK Ganker B emoragequits over the nerf.
Economy has 1 bill in ISK now.
Originally by: Ki An
Some people will say they will quit if this happens. Let them quit. They are idiots anyway.
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Delichon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Hawkings
Do you actually read what you post or just post it ? how us ratting in 0.0 more safe than running level 4s in high sec ?
Intel channels. You know a minus from 20+ systems away and unless a) they lay a logon-trap b) you are AFK they can't catch you.
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Delichon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Delichon on 06/08/2008 13:41:49
Originally by: heheheh
I take it youve never been there judging by that ridiculous alteration.
I take it you never were part of a proper 0.0 alliance that knows how to protect its members. I was in alliance in NC. 101% risk safe, I tell you. ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next.
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Delichon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sturmwolke
Griefing on mission runners (as per your desc above) quite actually have the opposite effect. You nerf their means of income by killing their ships, the net result would be less ISK added to the economy pool.
Your "nerf" on the mission runner is tiny if existant. Do you really think that destroying a CNR stops the player who owned it from making ISK? It would only slow him down as he would have to make do with a usual Raven - BUT he would probably spend more time online to cope with the loss, so actually no nerf at all. The fact that you BS have popped does not mean that you have to start doing Level 1 missions again :) ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next.
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Delichon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Ah, so you were one of those guys who just joined an alliance to rat in the best systems, and never did anything to secure or defend your space?
You have to be blind, deaf and stupid to lose a ship while ratting in friendly 0.0 You have to be a Dev NOT to lose one when you PVP.
I am neither, so I lost quite a few ships - but not once have I've been caught in belt. Anf you? ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next.
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Delichon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sturmwolke
Simply put, in a parallel universe where mission runners do missions with no major setbacks - the hundreds or even thousands of them will pump billions into the economy. Measure both of these universe over time, and you'll see that your point above is moot.
That's the point of our disagreement. I say that your parallel universe is EVE today. There are thousands of mission runners - just add up local counts in Motsu + Umokka + Dodixie and some Ammar/Matar systems on a usual Friday evening. You will get more than a thousand. They are pumping billions ISK into the economy. Suicide ganks are not setting them back (they might injure someone in particular, but they make little effect over economy as a whole) Removing insurance removes an ISK facet while not making another ISK facet (mission running) any stronger - because it can't get any stronger. ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next.
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