You guys sure are full of your selves lately.. Then again when were you not, so nothing new.

If you don't like FW quit your bitching and moaning and move on.. Go to null sec ..or oh wait you did that and came crawling back didn't yea.. [:roll:

Meanwhile Caldari continue to kill **** all hours of the day, unlike Gallente that never seem to undock if it's out side their 4 hour window of US time zone blobing hours. Of course Caldari are fail though and Gallente are l33t bitter vets that only undock when they "want' to.

You guys sure are full of your selves lately.. Then again when were you not, so nothing new..

You guys are up and able to forum post, yet I have 2 Drake running around all over the Gal vs Cal war front

Caldari are actually very active at the moment. It's just that they are fighting in small gangs in plexes flying destroyers and T1 cruisers rather than in BS/Logi and nano Drake fleets.

Because your 2 drakes are irrelevant, you still don't get it, do you ? Put 2 Vindis in space and let's see if we're still docked up,

<3 you m8, you seem like a reasonable fellow and I see your point that you are rebuilding and you feel that you are still active in the small gang fights, but you gotta understand us too, when it comes to roaming in 2-3 BCs, fighting over a plex and stuff, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Now we're just full bittervet mode, only undocking when it looks like we can kill over a bil worth of ****. And don't tell us go do 0.0, we've done that too, it's worse than high sec wardecs when it comes to pvp quality.

You should damn well play the game like I want it played and not play it like you want it!

Problem is tho on that front pvp in eve especially in low sec is completely different to a couple of years ago. Gone are the general large roaming bs type gangs and replaced by people having alts and eyes all over the place looking for something either to drop on or counter something that they know is being formed up.

Did I mention we killed a PL Titan?

Keep your Plexxing medals.

Nuff said.

Did I mention we killed a PL Titan? Keep your Plexxing medals. Nuff said.

We are getting fights damar just not from your lot.

Your happy playing eve as has beens then good for you.

Minnie's can field awesome fleets, amar can, Gallente can and Caldari are kings of fielding plexxing fleets.

Congrats.

Like I said congrats for being has beens.

Well since FW is all about plexing I really dont see WTF your point is.

FW is not all about plexing. Never has been. Plexing is one-third of the FW game.

Well since FW is all about plexing I really dont see WTF your point is.
You dont walk into a chinese take away and expect beans on toast to be on the menue.

If flying around in large fleets of heavy ships is what you really want to do then why are you pissing around in FW anyway?
Take your fleets and play with some of the big boys im sure your get all the fights you want.

So correct me if i'm wrong, you think that everyone not playing eve how YOU want them to play should immediately cancel their subscription and not let the door hit them in the ass on the way out?

FW is not all about plexing. Never has been. Plexing is one-third of the FW game.

So correct me if i'm wrong, you think that everyone not playing eve how YOU want them to play should immediately cancel their subscription and not let the door hit them in the ass on the way out?

So it's silly for people to demand a T3 gang to ship down to a T1 gang. Conversely, it's silly for a T3 gang to demand that a corp who can only fly T1 to ship up.

And then you smack him for not fighting your drakes in Plex a,b,c and he smacks you for not fighting his [Insert pvp Fleet here], etc, etc, everyone smacking everyone right, left and center.

You are making a bold assumption that I would give this death threat approving r-tard a fight. You know what would happen afterwards? He would make a forum thread about it. Either about his glorious victory or caldari shamelessly blobbing him to kingdom come. Take your pick.

What he really seems to want is for me to undock in Nisuwa with an ibis and then let his royal highness shoot aforementioned Ibis.

The point of my previous post was mostly to say that "Caldari like plex fights and small scale stuff and can't/don't want to engage in bigger fights. This makes Gallente pilots sad pandas, because they love all flavours of combat and want to hone their skills in all aspects of warfare"

All the trolling aside, I have a more serious question . From what I can tell, individual Caldari corps can field decent fleets. The4, CSC, IGB, Piranha, Squids, Templis Dragonaor alliance to name a few. Is there any reason why more of these corps don't work together? Is there just too much bad blood? Egos?

My understanding of recent Gal/Cal FW history is that Wolfsbrigade was the top pvp corps for the squids. Practically every faction has a few corps that act as "anchors" for the militia and others tend to fall in line and rally with them. So when Wolf left to go Amarr, there was no one that could rally the troops? Is it possible that there isn't an anchoring corps that have diplomatic relations with the other mid tier corps to created a more united front?

You seem to forget the militia you did not mention is the only one that has captured and held ALL hostile systems.

Achieve this and then you can talk about being some thing in FW.
Alot of corps quit after this because literally there was nothing left to conquer we had it all.
Gallente fleets were so badly slaughtered in around plexes in those days most of them refused to go anywhere near them.

Keep flying the pipe in your big shiny pirate bait fleets and talking the talk by all means, you were doing the same a few years ago and im sure nothing has changed today.

Posting in another "Shadows are a humble faction warfare corp" thread.

The greatest thing Shadows of the Federation manage is to convince others that they are the good guys whilst the rest of you run around shouting/emo'ing at each other.

Amusing really.

kudos on the Titan kill but seriously your starting to believe your own hype.

You are making a bold assumption that I would give this death threat approving r-tard a fight.

I have an idea...why don't a few GalMil join CalMil? That way you can fight all the time against the powerful Galente faction and hone your pvp skills. I'm sure the Federation would understand, and the Caldari state will reward you with many Trolls in forums about being traitorous untrustworthy bastards! :

Challenge accepted!

Disclaimer: Im shitfaced...

Yay I want to farm your nubs

PVE is important.

Damar posted on my 1 thread, My life....is complete. Mutnin what are you talking about? WT?!?! I dont see you in Amarr Mitlia....

The fight I'm talking about is the one lockout posted on the first page of this, he also mentions we didn't have the brains to field a neut BS. Admittedly we should have had one, and in fact we sent out a mail the next day detailing fits for neut BS so that the next time we'd be ready.

Caldari militia can field the fleets if they wanted to, during my 2 week stint with Cal mil in Piranha we organized this bit Caldari armor fleet lolz (entire fleet not shown, but you get the idea, not bragging about the kill just look at the ships on the mail). I believe I sent Mjolnir Gost and other cal mil FCs a TON of mails detailing fittings of all different kinds of fleets. From AHAC/CS/T3 armor to shield BS, Kiting t3 shields, triage fleet BS and so on. Cal mil has the pilots for all of them, it is just a matter of getting their members in the ship and trying them out.

Yeah but you know as well as anyone else you don't just have to fight gallente. Like you said null sec, or there are lots of pies in the area. Also, based on the killmails you linked there is a consistent theme in fleet type (random armor ships is strange though). I can see how it would get boring really quick due to that as well.

Added to this we had a few of the good FC's burn out/stop logging in and at the time, there were a few real emo types that tried to take over the Militia and would ***** and moan on coms, non stop if we lost a fight. I remember several times these same small group from the same corp were calling various guys spys and belittling them on coms, if someone made a mistake. (those guys have since moved on)

For the most part, we used Nanno BC's because they worked and were the best counter to Gals always wanting to run Armor BS. Quite simply as Caldari I think it was just harder to form up Armor BS gangs and we surly weren't going to field a gang of 20 Ravens (although that might be funny to see).

As far as flying expensive stuff like Hacs & t3's.. Honestly man at the time we had a meat grinder going on and guys on both sides lost a lot of ships, so it would of been hard to keep up the fighting for both sides had we all been tossing away a lot of T2 or T3 hulls everyday.

But that seems more like a misunderstanding of why someone would want to ship up to a t2 or t3 hull in the first place. Bolster I'm not complaining, those were just some observations and some advice for what I think cal mil needs to do in order to be respected again on a larger scale fleet level.

That's also why I said cal mil needs FCs that aren't afraid to screw up and get their fleet kills, it happens, learn from it and improve. I wouldn't suggest for new FCs to start with t2 and t3 hulls, but I mentioned effectiveness of even basic low # logi + properly (key there is properly) fit BC hulls.

Honestly as FW you guys shouldn't troll each other and try to be cruel because at the end of the day you shoot yourselves in the foot. You need each other for the pew pew.

Why don't your leaders get together and set up a time where both sides log on and do official scrim type matches in your system of choice...maybe at least a week or every few days. Then you have that, and everything in between is extra. Honestly as FW you guys shouldn't troll each other and try to be cruel because at the end of the day you shoot yourselves in the foot. You need each other for the pew pew.

My 2 cents.

. Honestly as FW you guys shouldn't troll each other and try to be cruel because at the end of the day you shoot yourselves in the foot. You need each other for the pew pew.

My 2 cents.

Respecting your enemy with these kind of arrangements is surest way to shoot yourself in the foot.

Have you EVER been at war before? I suggest you wardec a PvP corp and try this. See what happens.

Why don't your leaders get together and set up a time where both sides log on and do official scrim type matches in your system of choice...maybe at least a week or every few days. Then you have that, and everything in between is extra. Honestly as FW you guys shouldn't troll each other and try to be cruel because at the end of the day you shoot yourselves in the foot. You need each other for the pew pew.

My 2 cents.

It's easier for people to argue in public and seek the approval of many than to converse in private and seek the approval of one.

But yes, the constant flamebaiting and trolling on both sides can be a turn off to would-be FW applicants. Some of them would rather go to Minmatar/Amarr side where the forum smack is rather light. Couldn't blame them.

It's just because the only real W&T lurkers from Min/Amarr are :chillbros: except for Flyinghotpocket and his alt Ceyriot.

I loled

I concur

And now Dark-Rising (230 members) joined gal mil . o\

Yey, more glory ***** added to the mix.. Can't wait to see m0ar posts asking why Caldari wont undock BS gangs into the new & improved 10 to 1 odds.. Perhaps you guys can set new record for ninja flipping systems in middle of the night with all their added help. I noticed you guys managed to flip Annancale in less this 6 hours last night maybe now you can do it in 4 or 5 hours.

Yey, more glory ***** added to the mix.. Can't wait to see m0ar posts asking why Caldari wont undock BS gangs into the new & improved 10 to 1 odds.. Perhaps you guys can set new record for ninja flipping systems in middle of the night with all their added help. I noticed you guys managed to flip Annancale in less this 6 hours last night maybe now you can do it in 4 or 5 hours.

Yey, more glory ***** added to the mix.. Can't wait to see m0ar posts asking why Caldari wont undock BS gangs into the new & improved 10 to 1 odds..

Please for the love of all things explody come to syndicate/solitude we will give you some pew.

There's pretty much just Gallente militia...

You wound me, sir.

And it's nowhere near as lopsided as the 10 to 1 odds. Or even 5 to 1 for that matter before or after DR.

Not my fault you can't turn farmers in to pvpers fast enough. I think as numbers the militias are p even, just that your guys are in there to play farmville in space.

]The farmers you speak of are you guys whoring our resources because your own FW missions are almost worthless compared to the great Caldari State. Remove all the spies farmers and trolls Gal mil has and there would be less than 40 people on Cal mil.

Please for the love of all things explody come to syndicate/solitude we will give you some pew.

Where are these huge BS gangs everyone keeps talking about? I think I've seen one in my 4 months back. I lost a BS there, and derped another into an SC gang because of the Nenna unstoppable 90AU warp of doom. Otherwise I have 5BS rotting in my hanger. I think I've seen one 30 man BC gang, but we were out on a special task - otherwise it's all small gang. Honestly - that's fine by me. I much prefer the small gang plex fights.

There are plex fights to be had, but it's getting lean pickings during US late night. I've gotten bored enough that I have even run my first FW missions ever.

I was quite shocked that the mission gates let my pvp ship in. For some strange reason, I thought those gates were restricted to stealth bombers, interceptors, and cloaky tengus....

As far as the "lean pickings" in the US TZ, perhaps you should consider why that is.. Most of us plex to control the fights and avoid your numbers. Soon as you start bringing the blobs to the plexing & system captures (ie like the 80 person fleet that took Intaki & Agoze) then we pretty much forced to blue ball you.

Learn to do something beside always bring blob as your only tactic and perhaps you can find the GF's that we typically get, when we plex. (granted most of our fights these days are from Pies).

After taking a few fleets out this week around the 0:00 GMT time frame, I rarely see any Gals in the "usual places". Given I've been absent for quite awhile, but running into a couple Stabbers or the occasional warp stabbed frig is pretty bizarre. Maybe this week was just a quiet one, yet I can't help but wonder just how active the Gals late US TZ really is. Dark-Rising's return is welcomed given what seems to be dwindling interest on both sides. It was nice to see some activity throughout the pipe yesterday tho.

or the occasional warp stabbed frig is pretty bizarre.

BTW - real life note - saw somewhere you mentioned about being haze grey??? Always good to find a "real" squid ...

Yup ET2 on the San Antonio... INSURV is about to kick my ass time wise tho, but come May I should be back in Eve more often. Couple hours a day is good enough to get a fleet out and about, at least for the time being..

As far as the "lean pickings" in the US TZ, perhaps you should consider why that is.. Most of us plex to control the fights and avoid your numbers. Soon as you start bringing the blobs to the plexing & system captures (ie like the 80 person fleet that took Intaki & Agoze) then we pretty much forced to blue ball you.

BS gang, is essentially a troll toward SoTF as they seem to have bitter vet syndrome and to think small gang PVP is beneath them. Now that they have helped kill a Titian they are too cool to shoot Rifters & Drakes.

Confirming small gang rifters are beneath us for a reason. A good reason..

Because a significant part of our member base identifies itself with FW, because a lot of our friends are in Gal Mil, because a few of our guys still ***** missions every now and then, and above all else, because we have nothing to gain by leaving.

That beeing said, our current opinion on the state of affairs in FW is reflected in our decision to take a roadtrip to Messoya. We are looking forward to the suggested changes though, once occupancy has meaning beyond bragging rights, hopefully FW will be fun again.

Because a significant part of our member base identifies itself with FW, because a lot of our friends are in Gal Mil, because a few of our guys still ***** missions every now and then, and above all else, because we have nothing to gain by leaving.

That beeing said, our current opinion on the state of affairs in FW is reflected in our decision to take a roadtrip to Messoya. We are looking forward to the suggested changes though, once occupancy has meaning beyond bragging rights, hopefully FW will be fun again.

~a lot of bitching and moaning~

There is a saying.. No matter where you go, there you are.

FW will likely not become fun for you when system captures "mean" something. It's not FW but the attitude you have toward it. You expect PVP on a platter the way you want it. You guys seem to expect everyone to entertain you at your beck and calling instead of accepting the game for what it is and creating your own content.

It's pretty clear that Gallentte can out number us at will and out ship us all the way up to Capitols. Do you really think it's going to be anymore fun for you when the inevitable happens and you guys blob out every system you decide to capture with 50+ & having Minmatar on stand by?

Do you really think you are going to get GF's in this manor? I'm pretty certain once the new changes come into play Gals will pretty much just blob out every system, then with continue to ***** & moan you can't get fights. Meanwhile Caldari will still be doing our thing and getting fights daily.

See the difference between Caldari & Gallente, is we don't just sit their crying the other side wont entertain us. We might be out numbered but we go out and we fight everyday and we figure out ways to fight to our advantage. Meanwhile you guys just ***** & moan..

There will be winners and there will be losers. So the fun part will not be getting large fights out of you, we are aware that's impossible atm.

Also, the difference between most Caldari and Gallente pilots is this: Caldari pilots don't average 20+ other guys in every killmail they get. It's reason why "unskilled nuub" like me (so called by your militia) can be ranked at top 100 in battleclinic.

This is directed at SOTF only.

SOTF did try and go to 0.0, my only assumption is that your received the "little fish in the big pond syndrome" and instead of growing your own corp in 0.0 you decided to "be held back a grade" so you could curb stomp the "pee wees"

SOTF has always been arrogant Aholes. Dont try and post here saying "well we are better pilots because we only shoot caps, etc" you couldn't cut the mustard in 0.0 so you came back.

And with the patch changes there is no excuse for you to say "well we were bored" you could have been in 0.0 and FW at the same time, but you didnt

I smell fish..........

If the Caldari are such bad pilots and the militia sucks that bad go somewhere else because all you sound like is a 5th grader curbstomping a kindergartener. from all your post....but again I gues its easy to just whine instead....

Also, the difference between most Caldari and Gallente pilots is this: Caldari pilots don't average 20+ other guys in every killmail they get. It's reason why "unskilled nuub" like me (so called by your militia) can be ranked at top 100 in battleclinic.

This is directed at SOTF only.

SOTF has always been arrogant Aholes. Dont try and post here saying "well we are better pilots because we only shoot caps, etc" you couldn't cut the mustard in 0.0 so you came back.

Have to agree with this one, use to love being outnumbered and outgunned....now I only get that solo as we seem to want to blob everything in sight. Both sides are guilty of it, we just do it on a larger scale. Regardless of which side you are on if you do only have kills on your kb with 20+ people on it your pvpvfu is probably weak.


I <3 these FW emo threads

...actually 0.0 sov was the most boring ******* thing I have ever been exposed to. I was not alone in dislking virtually every minute of it, not because we couldn't compete but because the PVP was terribad.

I am not going to make a dig at the Alliance SotF were in, however it is safe to say that the established 0.0 alliance learnt some things from SotF and SotF learnt somethings from said Alliance.

Oh wai... you were there! Of course, that's how you know all of this and are capable of drawing the conclusion you did!

Null sec is just like any other space and you can choose to fight how you want to. Just because it is null sec, does not mean you have to be involved in "sov" warfare.

This is kind of the point some of us were making and I'm glad at least some of you understand it. There is a pretty big difference in Caldari & Gallette at the moment. The biggest difference is the bulk of Gallentte all stay hurdled up in a in the same few systems and rarely do anything with out support of 10 other players.

Very few of you actually have the guts to go out and fly solo or even in small gang.. (no flying around "solo" in nenn or akidagi with 15 guys 1 jump away to help you isn't solo) Meanwhile I see Caldari guys all over the map, but rarely do I see Gallente guys anywhere but a handful of systems.

Gallente do have some capable soloers and guys that do well in small gang, but the bulk are just typical ship spinners that stay docked unless you have enough people active to out gank the targets. Very few of you actually undock looking for "fights" the bulk undock only for ganks.

Yesterday we tried to fight Dark Rising, the newest big Gal corp. They had 8 guys camping a gate with several T2 hulls and BC's. We warped in with 5 Drakes killed one of their Canes and the rest ran to station. They came back with 10 guys total having 3 BS, a command ship assorted T2 & BC's.

We played patty cake on the gate but obviously we aren't going to fight 5 vs 10 with 5 BC vs a few BSs and assorted T2/BC hulls. We went back reshipped to 3 BS & picked up 1 more BC they stayed docked.

It was Caldari high sec system, so we had NPC's on our side but in 0.5's they don't neut and we were still out numbered 2 to 1 and couldn't get a fight. This is prefect example of typical Gallente attitude toward "GFs", even from your newest big corp. Different corp same result. You guys as a group typically are only interested in ganking easy targets and if it comes to a close fights you run and hide.

This is why most of us pretty much laugh, when you claim you want fights as we all know better being you only show up to fight if you know you can win or are tricked into thinking you will win. Personally we were prepared to lose the fight and I thought we would at very least lose most of our ships but we were there to fight.. Gallente on other hand were there to sit in station spinning ships it seems.

You guys as a group typically are only interested in ganking easy targets and if it comes to a close fights you run and hide.

This is why most of us pretty much laugh, when you claim you want fights as we all know better being you only show up to fight if you know you can win or are tricked into thinking you will win. Personally we were prepared to lose the fight and I thought we would at very least lose most of our ships but we were there to fight.. Gallente on other hand were there to sit in station spinning ships it seems.

Andre summed it up very well, each corp is different.

Otherwise though, I feel as you do except about the caldari. I've just given up the gallente/caldari warzone altogether (hoping new plexing mechanics breath some life into the area). There is the odd exception such as when bolster brings out dessie fleets (and I'm actually happier fighting in dessies than battleships, I always tell my fleet that they should be prepared to lose everything they bring to my fleets), but generally, caldari stopped really fighting in the US TZ since the battle of Tama back in September of last year (where the gallente were significantly outnumbered as well).

And about the 20+ average gallente on each kill, well, http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=chatgris . You'll have to go back a long time to find 20 people on a kill I was involved in, largely because there's no caldari gangs left in my TZ that warrant that many people. I always attempt undership or under number my enemy, both solo and in fleets. Otherwise, you get less fights, and that's boring.

This is kind of the point some of us were making and I'm glad at least some of you understand it. There is a pretty big difference in Caldari & Gallette at the moment. The biggest difference is the bulk of Gallentte all stay hurdled up in a in the same few systems and rarely do anything with out support of 10 other players.

Very few of you actually have the guts to go out and fly solo or even in small gang.. (no flying around "solo" in nenn or akidagi with 15 guys 1 jump away to help you isn't solo) Meanwhile I see Caldari guys all over the map, but rarely do I see Gallente guys anywhere but a handful of systems.

Gallente do have some capable soloers and guys that do well in small gang, but the bulk are just typical ship spinners that stay docked unless you have enough people active to out gank the targets. Very few of you actually undock looking for "fights" the bulk undock only for ganks.

Yesterday we tried to fight Dark Rising, the newest big Gal corp. They had 8 guys camping a gate with several T2 hulls and BC's. We warped in with 5 Drakes killed one of their Canes and the rest ran to station. They came back with 10 guys total having 3 BS, a command ship assorted T2 & BC's.

We played patty cake on the gate but obviously we aren't going to fight 5 vs 10 with 5 BC vs a few BSs and assorted T2/BC hulls. We went back reshipped to 3 BS & picked up 1 more BC they stayed docked.

It was Caldari high sec system, so we had NPC's on our side but in 0.5's they don't neut and we were still out numbered 2 to 1 and couldn't get a fight. This is prefect example of typical Gallente attitude toward "GFs", even from your newest big corp. Different corp same result. You guys as a group typically are only interested in ganking easy targets and if it comes to a close fights you run and hide.

This is why most of us pretty much laugh, when you claim you want fights as we all know better being you only show up to fight if you know you can win or are tricked into thinking you will win. Personally we were prepared to lose the fight and I thought we would at very least lose most of our ships but we were there to fight.. Gallente on other hand were there to sit in station spinning ships it seems.

when you did come to 'fight' you brought a 15 man gang with 2 EW ships ,and we still killed 2 of you . Today your 9 man gang with 8 thrashers with fast tackle came to gank my wolf after i chased your FC's alt round the system in a his Jag . i reshipped to a Vaga thinking theses guys want to fight! . i decloak and engage , they jump and bail. so much for GF's

Twhen you did come to 'fight' you brought a 15 man gang with 2 EW ships ,and we still killed 2 of you Roll

a Bolster given any thought to switching up to kitting cruisser fleets? or are you still mostly plexing in dessys?

Boring discussion - Galls blob/Cals blob.

If we had a Corp Event and there are 15Members who fly with that roam, so we blob sometimes, if we enter a System where are only one or two Wartargets we shot them of course if we can get them.
Nobody can tell me another Corp will sent 13 Guys "to home System" so the fight is equal.
Sometimes we take fights outnumbered, last one happen in Hikkoken, and it was great fun, but we lost this fight.
But anyway it was a GF, we can try to improve our tactics/FC whatever.
The Game ist dynamic guys - i don-¦t think there are many "Plans" to blob someone.
If someone can take advantage - he will do it, it-¦s natural.

My personal opinion:

i think the most of us prefer a more or less equal fight, but this happen sometimes or not.......depends on several circumstances.
Personally I don-¦t like the boosters, they had to be on grid - so you can fight them.But it-¦s my humble opinion..........

Jess

It's pretty clear that Gallentte can out number us at will and out ship us all the way up to Capitols. Do you really think it's going to be anymore fun for you when the inevitable happens and you guys blob out every system you decide to capture with 50+ & having Minmatar on stand by?

Boring discussion - Galls blob/Cals blob.

If we had a Corp Event and there are 15Members who fly with that roam, so we blob sometimes, if we enter a System where are only one or two Wartargets we shot them of course if we can get them.
Nobody can tell me another Corp will sent 13 Guys "to home System" so the fight is equal.
Sometimes we take fights outnumbered, last one happen in Hikkoken, and it was great fun, but we lost this fight.
But anyway it was a GF, we can try to improve our tactics/FC whatever.
The Game ist dynamic guys - i don-¦t think there are many "Plans" to blob someone.
If someone can take advantage - he will do it, it-¦s natural.

My personal opinion:

i think the most of us prefer a more or less equal fight, but this happen sometimes or not.......depends on several circumstances.
Personally I don-¦t like the boosters, they had to be on grid - so you can fight them.But it-¦s my humble opinion..........

Jess

I'm just pointing and laughing at the fact that it's pretty routine for Gals to see what ships have been brought to a fight and do the same ole same ole of "shipping up" to fight the said gang to the point of redardedness. After all this time they still have yet to figure out how to get a fight by bringing adequate ships to a fight.

If you want a "fight" and you see your wts in small BC gang but you know you have a decent amount of numbers more than them then you ship down to say T1 Cruisers if you want a fight. If you see your targets in a bunch of Destroyers but you have 15 guys & they have 6 or 7 then you ship down to some T1 frigs if you want a fight. It's a give and take thing.. If you want the other side to fight out numbered then you have to produce a appealing fight for them.

There are certain things one can do to get a fight while out numbering your enemy that still makes the fight appear to be appealing. You don't bring 3 or 4 BC's & 5 or 6 cruisers then try to bait 4 or 5 Thrashers with a frig and cry & whine you got no fight.

If you are out roaming you have committed to a gang type and you are likely looking for a fight. When your opponent scouts out your gang, it's then up to them to decide if they want to try and match up a adequate gang in order to get a fight or if they just want to come with over powering force to either chase you off or gank you.

Time and time again Gallente have shown they have no ability or will to produce adequate gangs in order to make a fight appealing or possible. They have one card that they always pull out of the deck, that card being to ship into the most adequate gank ships possible then whine they they didn't get a fight at the same time running away the second a adequate gang is produced to fight what they have brought.

At the end of the day it takes two to tango and Gallentte can complain all day long about not getting the fights they want, when it never fails that they always go overboard when it comes to re-shipping or shipping-up once they spot a Caldari gang. The question still remains that once Caldari is back in force as we are slowly building up our gangs.. Will Gallentte stick around for the fights once Gangs are more equal in numbers?

First off who is complaining about not getting fights? Probably the same dickless, gutless, dinkus that only undocks to ninja on kills...then says silly **** in coms like "wait dont kill it yet!!!!". Those people need to **** off to wow. Now on to my main point;

Its all relative to the situation and how its typically perceived incorrectly by the other side. For example Crom and I brought 2 thrashers to fight your 5 man AF/faction frig gang in vlil the other day. Your hesitation to engage (dont blame you there) led to somebody we had absolutely no contact with showing up in a hurricane when he saw intel posted about you...so we left knowing you would not engage, and completely understanding why. TBH only complaining we did was about the cane pilot.

You then took a shot at me in local when I reshipped to a drake to go point a carrier in akidagi, I was jumping from nen to aki with your gang...but it was simply a coincidence. Getting an understanding that what you are seeing is not always malicious or planned may lead to better opportunities for pew rather then blanket opinions that we all are blobby bastards :) Also realize it usually takes me a good 5-10 minutes to convince Crom to leave Nen

BTW carrier got out because our miltia sucks massive ass in USTZ...so at least on that point we agree

Thrashers aren't scary. Sure they are powerful against noobs but one scripted TD and that thing can't track ****. Then again most of the Cal Mil only knows about ECM as ewar so I can understand their fear of a simple thrasher.

ITT FW thinks anyone (including CCP) gives a **** about FW or low sec.

Tards.

They typically use Arti Thrashers with 280mm's & dual sensor boosters. Trust me they are scray if you are in a frig jumping into them, because you probaly arent' going to even get one locked before you are in your pod, much less get a TD on them.

Then don't jump into them. Make them come to you and make sure that you tack off of them when they charge.

Every victory isn't measured by a kill mail.

The question still remains that once Caldari is back in force as we are slowly building up our gangs.. Will Gallentte stick around for the fights once Gangs are more equal in numbers?

Also, getting pretty sick of being lumped into this label of "gallente Militia" and the stigma that surrounds it. You really should start referring to specific Time zones, or better yet, specific Corps. All this talk of blobbing and frigates and destroyers is embarassing!

1/10

I'm sorry, you were under the impression that I was trolling with that statement?

I really wasn't. Being categorised the same as retards who fly frigates and destroyers all day IS embarrassing.

Because flying frigates and destroyers takes no skill amirite?

sweet zombie jesus this thread delivers.
/grabs more popcorn

We will fight anyone, anywhere at anytime.

I'm sorry, you were under the impression that I was trolling with that statement?

I really wasn't. Being categorised the same as retards who fly frigates and destroyers all day IS embarrassing.

Being able to jump into a BC or BS with logi and 30 of your friends takes no skill whatsoever. Now you take a lone frigate and throw it all out there where one good shot means you're toast, that is fun, and that is where some of the best pilots I've faced are at. Big ships are boing. Give me a frig or dessy and I'm roaming.

Although I will admit that it's fun to pull out a geddeon or mega every once in awhile chase Loren out of my space.

Well firstly I am p amused at some of the guys in here claiming their side is hot for soloers.

Secondly if Caldari FW was really of any great interest as PVP opposition we wouldn't have left Castle Greyskull to harass nullsec bads.

Being able to jump into a BC or BS with logi and 30 of your friends takes no skill whatsoever. Now you take a lone frigate and throw it all out there where one good shot means you're toast, that is fun, and that is where some of the best pilots I've faced are at. Big ships are boing. Give me a frig or dessy and I'm roaming.

Although I will admit that it's fun to pull out a geddeon or mega every once in awhile chase Loren out of my space.

To quote your corp member: "But we will take any fight, we will take it on our terms and "that" is why we will win".

So perhaps we simply have no interest to form a big-ass fleet and wait for several hours while you brood in the chambers of Castle Greyskull on your throne of smack until you can set your hell-cat fleet, another on titan bridge and put your batphone (which may or may not be Wolfsbrigade) on stand-by too, you know, "just in case" things go wrong.

Having met your own terms, you charge out of Castle Greyskull and notice that everyone got bored and has already went home and logged for the day...

you clearly misunderstood the point of my post and a quick glance at our killboard will show that we are getting plenty of fights. Some we are outnumbered, some we are outnumbering but 99% of them we win regardless of numbers.

And you misunderstood that I would spend my time observing killboards of people whose stated objective is to put me six feet under, irl.

so you falsely accuse us of taking hours to form up to fight you falsely suggest we never get any fights because of our form up times, whilst refusing to check your "facts" with 30 seconds looking at our killboard
and now you falsely accuse me of sending you RL threats

good good, well played sir.

Hahaha, taking hours to form is your standard operating procedure, both with your previous incarnation (wolfy) and your current incarnation at least in FW zone. I faintly recall how Draketrain had to parade around Nisuwa station for couple of hours until you felt confident enough (and still got beaten despite five carriers).

But difference between draketrain and yours is easy to spot. Draketrain figured people can just stay docked up and blueball them until the sun dies, so they packed up and left elsewhere. You seem to suffer from similiar situation but unlike draketrain, you make smug posts in forum how good you are and demand people come to feed you killmails.

And it does not matter if you personally didnt send anything. Your militia members did, your CEO did not disapprove this behavior and thus gave his silent approval, hence there is nothing left to discuss in this matter.

hence there is nothing left to discuss in this matter.

and yet you ALWAYS bring that up. so much for leaving the past where it belongs huh

I for one have never been the sort to let the past stay buried and I seriously hope no-one thinks it so. I could say I carry grudge to my grave but since i'm not dead yet, that might be a lie. But longest grudge i've held in my life has been for 28 years so far I think...

I for one have never been the sort to let the past stay buried and I seriously hope no-one thinks it so. I could say I carry grudge to my grave but since i'm not dead yet, that might be a lie. But longest grudge i've held in my life has been for 28 years so far I think...

Hahaha, taking hours to form is your standard operating procedure, both with your previous incarnation (wolfy) and your current incarnation at least in FW zone. I faintly recall how Draketrain had to parade around Nisuwa station for couple of hours until you felt confident enough (and still got beaten despite five carriers).

But difference between draketrain and yours is easy to spot. Draketrain figured people can just stay docked up and blueball them until the sun dies, so they packed up and left elsewhere. You seem to suffer from similiar situation but unlike draketrain, you make smug posts in forum how good you are and demand people come to feed you killmails.

And it does not matter if you personally didnt send anything. Your militia members did, your CEO did not disapprove this behavior and thus gave his silent approval, hence there is nothing left to discuss in this matter.

Well firstly I am p amused ...

So was I when I saw this: http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9461222 Perhaps You should join Eve-uni so they could tech You how not to loose T3 cruser to little group of rifters and trashers

Perhaps Gallentte need to go to same school and learn how to better hide their neutral booster alts.

http://www.squidswarm.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=228

Best part was warping into the same safe spot the next day and killing a BC while the rest of their gang ran off that was also in the same SS.

Yea see you guys do pretty stupid stuff too, so quit trolling with alts because you are scared to post with your mains.

So was I when I saw this: http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9461222 Perhaps You should join Eve-uni so they could tech You how not to loose T3 cruser to little group of rifters and trashers

Hey Damar, I've forgotten what the Gallente did to you. Can you remind me again?

Bump. Looking for a 4th miltia

Why aren't you trolling with your main?

Sorry... why aren't You trolling with your main?

What did the English language ever do to you to warrant such punishment?

Theres a rumor that Guristas will fill in the 4th slot, but thtas justa rumour

[omar comin.

my alliance has pretty good guristas standings after 3 months in venal.

omar comin.

Theres a rumor that Guristas will fill in the 4th slot, but thtas justa rumour

but its so funny watching them pretend to be relevant to anyone other than themselves.

What's even more fun, is seeing people whom think we actually care if they think we are "relevant" or not.

You are who? Yea just another pirate whom roams around with 15 or 20 others all the time and hasn't gotten a kill in the last 30 days with less than 5 others on it as well.

So what about yourself, makes "you" think you are relevant enough, to make anyone actually think someone gives a flying dodo about what you think? You are just a meat shield whom adds a bit of DPS or buffer tank to your alliance/corp blobs.

When you do something beside hit F1 when your FC tells you to, perhaps it's ok for you to chime in to a topic that doesn't revolve around you and pretend you are somehow more elite than anyone other mouth dribbling slob posting in it. Until that time we can let Gallette bad posting alts continue to circle jerk one another.

"i dont enjoy the type of pvp you do therefore your opinion is invalid"

Thats pretty much Mutnin's standard response to anything on these forums.

Seems to be working so far, most people just give up arguing with him.

What's even more fun, is seeing people whom think we actually care if they think we are "relevant" or not.

You are who? Yea just another pirate whom roams around with 15 or 20 others all the time and hasn't gotten a kill in the last 30 days with less than 5 others on it as well.

So what about yourself, makes "you" think you are relevant enough, to make anyone actually think someone gives a flying dodo about what you think? You are just a meat shield whom adds a bit of DPS or buffer tank to your alliance/corp blobs.

When you do something beside hit F1 when your FC tells you to, perhaps it's ok for you to chime in to a topic that doesn't revolve around you and pretend you are somehow more elite than anyone other mouth dribbling slob posting in it. Until that time we can let Gallette bad posting alts continue to circle jerk one another.

I dont give two ***** whether you care or not, i was just saying how funny it is you engage in all this **** posting and ego boosting when what you do is so meaningless. This is the reason why no-one takes the militias seriously, its full of self important retards who seem to think theyre the be all and end all of Eve when FW is a dead end mechanic in dead end space that no-one gives two ***** about except the people who do it.

I dont give two ***** whether you care or not, i was just saying how funny it is you engage in all this **** posting and ego boosting when what you do is so meaningless. This is the reason why no-one takes the militias seriously, its full of self important retards who seem to think theyre the be all and end all of Eve when FW is a dead end mechanic in dead end space that no-one gives two ***** about except the people who do it.

umm who are you exactly........ You dont appear to be one of the THREE militia's. You should try Amarr if you wanna fight us

There is no word of a fourth mitlia being implemented in the upcoming 'Inferno' release

Ahh so you guys will soon be moving to null sec where you can find the GF's you look for? I can understand that bluing your opposition likely leads to no GF's and that being the 12th guy on a condor KM must get dull so GL with your new adventure. Hope you don't return with tails between legs so fast this time..

glhf

You seem, mad.

There is no word of a fourth mitlia being implemented in the upcoming 'Inferno' release

I heard we're down to two militias now. c/d ?