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Dr Gonzo999
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Posted - 2008.08.08 15:16:00 -
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Hi, I am training Battlecruisers rank to level 2 so I can buy a Myridon. Is there any point in me training beyond that?
Many thanks for any advice.
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ArmyOfMe
Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.08.08 15:19:00 -
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Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% increase to drone hitpoints and damage dealt by drones, and 7.5% increase to armor repair amount per level
I would say that is a good reason to train it past lvl 2
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Elhina Novae
Amarr Destruction Reborn CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.08.08 15:19:00 -
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Read the description and bonus of your ship... ------------ Somebody set up us the bomb |
Dr Gonzo999
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Posted - 2008.08.08 15:42:00 -
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Sorry. I read the description on the skill itself.
"Skill at operating Battlecruisers. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts."
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CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.08 17:04:00 -
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And like most new folks, you think "rank" is of any importance. Rank on a skill only determines how long it takes. Level is what you should be looking at. And for skills that have no bonus listed in the description, check the ship/module that needs the skill. Like the ships, each level of "ship skill" increases something by some x%. So yes, there is a point in training to more than the minimum level required...
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.08 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Gonzo999 Sorry. I read the description on the skill itself.
"Skill at operating Battlecruisers. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts."
read the bit on the myrm
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Grann Thefauto
Minmatar Running with Knives
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:41:00 -
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BC 5 is pretty amazing if you like medium sized ships.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.08.09 02:18:00 -
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Level, not rank.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.09 03:30:00 -
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Big difference between being able to step in a ship and being good with it.
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.09 15:56:00 -
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It might also be worth mentioning that BC V is one of the (numerous) requirements for command ships.
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Elhina Novae
Amarr Destruction Reborn CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.08.09 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: vanBuskirk It might also be worth mentioning that BC V is one of the (numerous) requirements for command ships.
Also BC 5 (which I don't have yet ), will open alot of options later on ingame, as you can easily crosstrain to fly any battlecruiser out there and be good with it as the only minor problem remaining might be the change of weapon systems. ------------ When I became the sun, I shone life into the man¦s hearts. |
MotoMissles
Rim Collection RC Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Elhina Novae Also BC 5 (which I don't have yet ), will open alot of options later on ingame, as you can easily crosstrain to fly any battlecruiser out there and be good with it as the only minor problem remaining might be the change of weapon systems.
And tanking.....and maneuverability...
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Mona X
Caldari Polish Task Forces C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: MotoMissles
Originally by: Elhina Novae Also BC 5 (which I don't have yet ), will open alot of options later on ingame, as you can easily crosstrain to fly any battlecruiser out there and be good with it as the only minor problem remaining might be the change of weapon systems.
And tanking.....and maneuverability...
Does minmatar's BCs uses diffrent MWD than amarr's?
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Elhina Novae
Amarr Destruction Reborn CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mona X
Originally by: MotoMissles
Originally by: Elhina Novae Also BC 5 (which I don't have yet ), will open alot of options later on ingame, as you can easily crosstrain to fly any battlecruiser out there and be good with it as the only minor problem remaining might be the change of weapon systems.
And tanking.....and maneuverability...
Does minmatar's BCs uses diffrent MWD than amarr's?
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2008.08.10 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Elhina Novae
Also BC 5 (which I don't have yet ), will open alot of options later on ingame, as you can easily crosstrain to fly any battlecruiser out there and be good with it as the only minor problem remaining might be the change of weapon systems.
What is this "a lot" you speak of. I basically see Command Cruisers and thats it.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.10 19:01:00 -
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a BC can easily take down a BS, just as much as a frigate can take down a cruiser.
Most of it is in player skill, character skill, and fittings. You need to be at 110% if you want to take on someone in a BS who knows what they're doing, however. -
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Twarda Sztuka
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Posted - 2008.08.11 10:58:00 -
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1) BC V is requirement for Command Ships. And they are great.
2) For Myrmidon, if you are not using drones and only do shield tankig, then level II of BC skill is enough. However I'd say Myrm greatly benefits from drones and high level of the BC skill.
3) Having BC at level V allows you to quickly jump to another race (just frigs to 4 and Cruisers to 3) and you can have very good fighting vehicle. At least as a tank. For offensive you haveto consider also training other weapon systems.
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Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Elhina Novae
Also BC 5 (which I don't have yet ), will open alot of options later on ingame, as you can easily crosstrain to fly any battlecruiser out there and be good with it as the only minor problem remaining might be the change of weapon systems.
What is this "a lot" you speak of. I basically see Command Cruisers and thats it.
The point being that you only need to train the next racial cruiser to 3 and you're immediately an expert BC pilot.
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Aeon Lance
Caldari Lance Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.22 02:27:00 -
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I checked out Myd on EFT and it shows that it can recharge shield in 30 sec with relevant skills, does that count for anything or is it only good for armor tanking?
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Manu Hermanus
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.22 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Aeon Lance I checked out Myd on EFT and it shows that it can recharge shield in 30 sec with relevant skills, does that count for anything or is it only good for armor tanking?
right on, passive shield myrm is rather strong on tank, although it is worthwhile to increase shield hp and resistances as well as decrease shield recharge time.
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Burn Mac
Minmatar Burning Steel Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.22 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari a BC can easily take down a BS, just as much as a frigate can take down a cruiser.
Most of it is in player skill, character skill, and fittings. You need to be at 110% if you want to take on someone in a BS who knows what they're doing, however.
It have to protest a bit, when you are in a frigate and attacking a cruiser the chance of fighting against a n00b is much larger than being in a battlecruiser against a battleship since a BC vs BS is more off a DPS vs EHP of both ships kind off fight than when a frigate engages a cruiser since its mobility is more of a bonus.
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Calgura
Gallente Kinetic Vector
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:00:00 -
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I just need racial Frig and Cruiser to 5 and I can fly the cmd ships of that race :-D Sooo helps having Assault Frigate, Heavy Assault Frigate and Logistic Ships skills done to level 4+ already :-D
And yes, Battlecruisers are fun to fly. Command ships are very fun to fly. And Leadership skills to boost entire fleets are EXTREMELY fun to fly
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Muskells
Amarr Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2008.08.25 12:21:00 -
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I have BC4 and have been resisting training it to lvl5. I fly only Amarr. The difference for a Gank Harbinger (7HP II and 3 HS II, pulse spec 4) is 24 dps. BC5 would allow me to train for the Absolution but, even though it has a nice tank, it does less DPS with only 6 turrets. Also the ROF and Damage bonuses for that ship depend on the Command ship skill level which would take about 35 days more to max out. I'm not saying that I ain't gonna train it, I just don't think it's a great return for the time spent.
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Atlas Elestra
Titan Mining LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.25 14:29:00 -
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I kinda think the main thing to learn here which I didn't realize for awhile is this...
The bonus you get on the Battlecruiser is per level of skill trained in Battlecruiser.. Same goes for a Frigate, Cruiser, Battleship etc...
Ex. Caracal : Special Ability: 5% bonus Kinetic Missle Damage per skill level and 10% bonus to missle Velocity per level.
so at Cruiser level 2 you have 10 and 20, Level 5 would be 25 and 50....
So training those levels besides opening up things as pre-reqs, it amplifies those ship bonuses...
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Lyvanna Kitaen
Minmatar Noonday Sun Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.26 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Gonzo999 Hi, I am training Battlecruisers rank to level 2 so I can buy a Myridon. Is there any point in me training beyond that?
Many thanks for any advice.
Battlecruiser V is one of the skills needed for Command Ships... and they rock! :)
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.08.26 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Grann Thefauto BC 5 is pretty amazing if you like medium sized ships.
BC 5, Harbinger, Heavy Pulse II with Scorch = OMGWTFPWN.
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.08.26 05:25:00 -
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Something that is not obvious as a new player is that the ship bonuses are multiplied by your skill level with that type of ship. I remember being confused by this early on as well. For example:
Myrmidon repairs 7.5% extra armor per cycle and does 10% extra drone damage and that is what the bonus is at Battlecruisers I. Train up to Battlecruisers II and you will be repairing 15% extra armor per cycle and doing 20% bonus drone damage. Train to Battlecruisers V and you'll be doing 37.5% extra per cycle and 50% drone damage.
In other words, your skill level with a ship type is multiplied by the ships bonuses to tell you what your real bonus will be. The higher you level the skill associated with a type of ship, the more effective you will be with it. ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
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