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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:30:00 -
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Are there any universally recognized 0.0 space "supermalls"?
I am looking to get an escorted corp convoy into 0.0 for a big shopping trip, and we are not entirely sure where to go for the best one stop shopping.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:37:00 -
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I would strongly advise you to contact the authority of each region you wish to do business so you can arrange a pass or be told not to come.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Katrar
Are there any universally recognized 0.0 space "supermalls"?
I am looking to get an escorted corp convoy into 0.0 for a big shopping trip, and we are not entirely sure where to go for the best one stop shopping.
Thanks for any suggestions.
I think you're in WAY over your head...
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Psychotic Penguin
Gallente
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:42:00 -
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why? everything is going to be more expensive than empire. If you just want to lose money I have a good deal for you. You send me 5bil then I send you 3bil back, deal? (this is a win win situation, you lose 2bil without having to spend time going into 0.0 and I get more money for replacement ships)
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Darwin's Market
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:58:00 -
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This is too cute. 0.0 is not a shopping centre, it's a killing centre.
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 00:07:00 -
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Are there not some products that are of limited or no availability in empire?
Not sure why the thought of moving an armed convoy in to procure difficult to acquire items is such a shocking proposition, but ok.
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Maestro Del'Tirith
Del'Tirith Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.09 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Katrar
Are there not some products that are of limited or no availability in empire?
No
There are things found there...smart people fly them into empire so they can sell them.
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Psychotic Penguin
Gallente
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.08.09 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Katrar
Are there not some products that are of limited or no availability in empire?
Not sure why the thought of moving an armed convoy in to procure difficult to acquire items is such a shocking proposition, but ok.
now if you were talking about moving stuff from empire to 0.0 that would be an entirely different thing and actually profitable.
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 00:22:00 -
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there are simply some items that are difficult or impossible to find in empire. We wanted some. But apparently asking for help in locating selling points is too much in these forums. No problem.
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CornerStoner
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Posted - 2008.08.09 00:47:00 -
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You should take the advice given here. NBSI is standard in 0.0 and they'll have intel on you way before you get to where you wanna go. Even if you make it to your destination...getting out will be even more difficult.
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Vuxacha
VTECHS
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Posted - 2008.08.09 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Katrar
there are simply some items that are difficult or impossible to find in empire. We wanted some. But apparently asking for help in locating selling points is too much in these forums. No problem.
I don't know these days. ISS used to do that stuff. The responses you're getting are due to the naive/unresearched nature of the question. You may feel like you're doing research by asking others, but as they've pointed out. You need to know what you're after first, and what the margins etc are for going after it.
For instance, there is no point going all the way out to deep 0.0 for certain items if that alliance's logistics train is already bringing it all into Jita regularly anyway.
If the alliance does not have a logistics train bringing it in, maybe it is because they cannot guarantee their own pilots safe passage.
Also, marketable items/mins/whatever are only available in their specific regions. Asking for *any* super mall is blatantly stating that you don't really know what you're after.
So we come back to the golden rule of MD. Asking other traders for specific trade advice will result in you either being ignored or mocked/scammed/deceived. Personally I have no experience in the matter and the only advice I can give you is to ask RPers (because what you want to do is less about profit and more about poetry) or see if you can hunt down some old ISS pilots who might be in the know. |
Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.08.09 01:21:00 -
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Quote:
forget it... unhelpful responses are unhelpful
Umh? Fail post is fail?
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.08.09 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kwint Sommer
Quote:
forget it... unhelpful responses are unhelpful
Umh? Fail post is fail?
^^this^^
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 02:20:00 -
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Thanks CornerStoner and Vuxacha for the helpful responses.
Yes in my mind I was specifically thinking of the old ISSO outposts. Since there don't seem to be any real identifiable equivalents today it does seem too risky a trip for the limited convenience, and probably would have been even if such locations still existed. And establishing travel rights would probably have been a prohibitively costly (in both isk and time) affair. I guess we'll just keep hoping to catch what we want as they filter into empire in small numbers.
As to the rest of you less than helpful individuals, don't forget to empty your ****socks. Some of you seem a bit socially constipated.
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kwint Sommer
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forget it... unhelpful responses are unhelpful
Umh? Fail post is fail?
Don't be so hard on yourself. And for the love of god empty your ****sock. I can smell it all the way over here.
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Pax Empyrean
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Posted - 2008.08.09 03:24:00 -
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Well, maybe people wouldn't mock your thread title if you didn't break down into a freaking tautology.
Also, you seem to have a bizarre fascination with "****-socks" that I'm really hoping we don't learn more about.
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Pink Kiwi
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Posted - 2008.08.09 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Katrar
there are simply some items that are difficult or impossible to find in empire. We wanted some. But apparently asking for help in locating selling points is too much in these forums. No problem.
What items are you talking about? Any item that would be difficult or impossible to find in Empire would also be difficult or impossible to find in 0.0. |
Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Pax Empyrean
Well, maybe people wouldn't mock your thread title if you didn't break down into a freaking tautology.
Also, you seem to have a bizarre fascination with "****-socks" that I'm really hoping we don't learn more about.
Too many people on these forums derive their self worth entirely from their EVE alter egos, building themselves up by mocking the inexperienced. It's not my problem some of the posters in this thread havn't seen the sun in 5 years.
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pink Kiwi
Any item that would be difficult or impossible to find in Empire would also be difficult or impossible to find in 0.0.
Yeah you're right, and Jita is not too far away and usually has what we need.
Anyhow perhaps I wrote thread starter in a bit much of a light hearted manner, but really the question was "are there useful trade hubs outside of empire". It is apparently a crime to still be learning the ins and outs of this game.
Thanks to those that tried to share some wisdom without being total jackasses about it. And to the rest of you, get some sunlight. You need it.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.08.09 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Katrar
Yeah you're right, and Jita is not too far away and usually has what we need.
Anyhow perhaps I wrote thread starter in a bit much of a light hearted manner, but really the question was "are there useful trade hubs outside of empire". It is apparently a crime to still be learning the ins and outs of this game.
Thanks to those that tried to share some wisdom without being total jackasses about it. And to the rest of you, get some sunlight. You need it.
I think the biggest problem with guys like you, and the reason the MD "crowd" tends to be a bit harsh, is that you come here with a question without having thought about it or done any research on your own. One thing you should know, since you are new, is that guys like you and the guys with stupid scam attempts are a dime a dozen. We have to deal with them everyday over and over and over and over. This does create a problem when someone such as yourself posts a neutral yet in my opinion stupid question. We may be a bit harsh at times but there is a reason, its not personal, you aren't special, there were many before you, there will be many after you. In closing, I've moved on and so should you.
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Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: Katrar on 09/08/2008 06:12:06
It's unfortunate that your "crowd" feels justified in such intense condemnation of the learning process and questions asked on the forums. But whatever, my fundamental question, the one that was not easily answered by my own search attempts, has been answered. To those that saw fit to help without being an ass, thanks from a player still early in the learning curve, I appreciate it.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:24:00 -
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I'm talking to the OP but using AC155's post as jump off points while doing so. Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
One thing you should know, since you are new, is that guys like you and the guys with stupid scam attempts are a dime a dozen. We have to deal with them everyday over and over and over and over.
^^^ This. OP: Interesting though, you accuse us (the d-patrol as you call it) of needing sunlight yet you don't have any friends (In Eve) with sufficient knowledge to keep you form asking silly questions. There are plenty of public channels that veterans sit in for the sole purpose of sharing knowledge & advice. I know as I regularly burp rookies and would have no problem helping you out, via in game mediums. Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
We may be a bit harsh at times but there is a reason, its not personal, you aren't special, there were many before you, there will be many after you.
OP: This is where, me thinks, you went into treacherous areas. You need to ignore people that you don't care for until you learn how to riposte properly. Throwing a tantrum and tossing your own thread around like a ragdoll only encourages the trolling. Also you need to realize that some people who sound hostile, usually myself, are just gruff from having answered the same question over and over again (or being trolled over the same subject over and over again via anonymous alts). Our attitudes are not so much as RTFM as it is "Damn have to help someone who is most likely to be an ungrateful ass". You strike me as one of those ungrateful types already so I'm truly baffled as to why I'm bothering to school you... even this little bit. Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
In closing, I've moved on and so should you.
OP: You need to lose your thin skin and prejudices if you want to be known as anything other than an annoyance. You are a newb, we don't have a problem with it so please get over it on your own. You are going to ask newb questions, they will be called newb and you will be called a newb. Again get over it. Perhaps, in time, you'll be someone worth our attention. I do not discount the possibility as you are obviously trying but for right now you are just being annoying in your self righteousness.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Praetorian I
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:29:00 -
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This may be related in a round about way. There any areas in 0.0 that are NRDS, currently? (not red don't shoot, for those on the learning curve)
Since you're looking for rares, yes, even if you could find a dock, you'd find the item jacked. There is though the option of fishing for the rat.
If the space is NRDS, getting it for free may be worth your risk in assembling a safari. Remember to pack a covop to try and run the trophy out.
Hope that is helpful.
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:30:00 -
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Edited by: Katrar on 09/08/2008 06:32:14
Re: Shar
All good points and I appreciate the time you took to respond, even if it was from a pedestal.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:31:00 -
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Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 09/08/2008 06:33:07
/me agrees with Shar, who agrees with me, so i guess i agree with myself.
Edit: Oh and incase anyone was wondering, this isn't WoW. There are no rare drops that you HAVE to go looking for. You can get just about anything you want in high sec space.
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Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 09/08/2008 06:37:52
Originally by: Katrar
Edited by: Katrar on 09/08/2008 06:32:14
Re: Shar
All good points and I appreciate the time you took to respond, even if it was from a pedestal.
Also, check out www.eve-search.com. You can see un-edited postings and the text that mods may have "cleaned". Its great for when you say something, then decide you want to be a smartass and add in the bit about a pedestal. You'll have to wait for it to update though if you want to see your pre-I'mBeingClever postings.
Edit: spelling and love
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Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Katrar
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 09/08/2008 06:33:07
/me agrees with Shar, who agrees with me, so i guess i agree with myself.
Edit: Oh and incase anyone was wondering, this isn't WoW. There are no rare drops that you HAVE to go looking for. You can get just about anything you want in high sec space.
That too is good to know. I had been under the impression that there were numerous things that were found (and sold) almost exclusively in lowsec, from parts to ships. Now knowing that I was incorrect, I don't mind as much tending to highsec hub market orders.
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Praetorian I
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:38:00 -
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Edited by: Praetorian I on 09/08/2008 06:43:35
Edited by: Praetorian I on 09/08/2008 06:40:30
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
this isn't WoW. There are no rare drops that you HAVE to go looking for. You can get just about anything you want in high sec space.
OK, my newbness then, I thought I heard something about officer drops only from 0.0 rats?
edit: added quote as expected post to be after AC155 but the thread is moving quickly
edit: quoted the wrong part
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
There are no rare drops that you HAVE to go looking for. You can get just about anything you want in high sec space.
Fixed.
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Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.08.09 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Katrar
All good points and I appreciate the time you took to respond, even if it was from a pedestal.
Pedestal, experience, either of which is still better then where you stand sir. Don't be a fool and intentionally antagonize people who have things you want. Like knowledge, resources, even (gasps) respect. And don't lie to yourself, it is going to be the last one that you want most. So consider this your one, and final, warning from me. Don't snap at me unless you wish to get snapped back.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
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