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Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.08.26 02:07:00 - [91] Originally by: here'n'there bump! This horse is dead. Stop beating it pls.
Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.08.26 02:11:00 - [92] Originally by: Ruciza An unrigged Arazu can't hit out to 150km? Of course it can. Where I come from 45 + 90 < 150. Missing > 50% of the time is not acceptable. Done arguing.
Ruciza Minmatar The Feminists	Posted - 2008.08.26 04:39:00 - [93] Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Originally by: Ruciza An unrigged Arazu can't hit out to 150km? Of course it can. Where I come from 45 + 90 < 150. Missing > 50% of the time is not acceptable. Done arguing. Would you fit one damp on the Arazu? It seems you do!
sliver 0xD exiles. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2008.08.26 07:11:00 - [94] Originally by: Asno Malo Originally by: sliver 0xD i sugested a change months ago that goes as folowign : % of effect on damps range or reso to extream value like 85% 90%. and then to counter the over power effect that change by adding the same chance base system as the ecm. (maybe even based on the sensor strength. could put in some race counters in there liek the caldari have higher ecm strenght) Perhaps I am one of the few, but I do not want the Arazu to be a RSD version of the Falcon. I don't want the range or the multiple targets of the Falcon, I am simply asking for the Arazu to get a small boost to their damp efficiency, 15% per level vs 5% per level. Quote: this chance system could also improve the pilgrim's tracking disruptor and the rapiers target painter. I would have to heavily disagree on target painters because the painter itself provides no adverse affect, unlike RSD, ECM, and TD. At the same time, I would also have to disagree with changing TD to chance based for one very simple reason. TD affects only a single class of weapon system (Guns) whereas ECM and RSD affect all weapon systems but one. sure you dont want it to be a falcon. but what are we talking about? do we want to pull the arazu out of the shithole it is in or do we want to ***** more about the falcon. nothing wrong with target target painter or target disruptors exept for the fact that nobody uses them. maybe 1 to fill that stupid extra midslot :P --- Somebody needs a hug!
Karentaki Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.08.26 14:07:00 - [95] Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Originally by: here'n'there bump! This horse is dead. Stop beating it pls. Alt of someone stupid enough to die to an Arazu spotted? Anyway, it's hardly a dead issue until the issue either goes away or is fixed. Quote: EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.08.27 16:05:00 - [96] Originally by: Karentaki Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Originally by: here'n'there bump! This horse is dead. Stop beating it pls. Alt of someone stupid enough to die to an Arazu spotted? Anyway, it's hardly a dead issue until the issue either goes away or is fixed. Nah its just that we're repeating the same thing....over and over....The two main schools of thought are : 1) Arazu needs better range or effectiveness on RSD's. 2) Arazu is fine. At this point its just flames and rehashes. FWIW I'm in group #1.
Asno Malo	Posted - 2008.08.27 16:14:00 - [97] Edited by: Asno Malo on 27/08/2008 16:17:28 Originally by: sliver 0xD sure you dont want it to be a falcon. but what are we talking about? do we want to pull the arazu out of the shithole it is in or do we want to ***** more about the falcon. Quite simply, I want to improve the Arazu without screwing up the other ships. Hence the disagreement about converting the TD and TP to chance. I use the Falcon simply for comparison purposes only, and no where in any of my posts have I asked for a nerf on the Falcons. I am really really strange that way, I look at balance within the system not balance as a nerf to something else. What I am asking for will have no negative impact on any other ship in the game, but will have a huge, and IMO positive, impact on the effectiveness of the Arazu. EDIT: Fixed quoting
HookerChick	Posted - 2008.08.28 07:07:00 - [98] Edited by: HookerChick on 28/08/2008 07:10:44 Edited by: HookerChick on 28/08/2008 07:08:08 Note: Falcon needs a nerf, Arazu/Lach need a buff. I say Falcons need a nerf because when u have not 1 but 2 ECCM's on with the senor strength of a carrier or even a mother ship and you still get perma jammed that's ****ed. I've been in countless battleship fights and get perma jammed by 5 heavy drones... or even ECMed by multispecs and racials. I've flown carriers and even a Nyx yet I still get jammed by a falcon with and without ECCM. Arazu needs a buff just simply because of the fact that all other Recons are better then it. In my idea, I say we wait and see what happens after the nano nerf etc.. before we start nerfing/buffing ships, once the nano nerf everything will change and the right now the only thing I see that makes the arazu ineffective is the fact that everything likes to nano and you cant really nano the arazu as it already has cap issues from its damps etc.. maby just maby id give it a reduction to damping cap uses like the falcon gets for ECM. Until the nano nerf id wait because with the scramblers disabling MWD's it makes the game play a whole lot different. The Arazu will have the advantage because of range on the scramblers etc.. I do how ever agree with a small buff on damps. there no where near as powerful as ECM or anything else for that matter. Once again lets wait till the nano nerf etc.. and see what happens and go from there. One more thing to add was I heard the Rapier was losing it's web bonuses and they were being given to the Arazu if true that's WAY OVERPOWERED and SHOULD NOT BE DONE. having a Rapier with tracking link and target painter effective bonuses are ****ED and that's what Logistics are for not Recons. It renders Rapiers completely USELESS and alot of people wont be happy. I don't know if this was just a roumor or what but if it's true then WOW CCP I've lost hope and faith in you.
Manfred Rickenbocker The Elliance Delta.Green	Posted - 2008.09.08 14:40:00 - [99] Originally by: HookerChick One more thing to add was I heard the Rapier was losing it's web bonuses and they were being given to the Arazu if true that's WAY OVERPOWERED and SHOULD NOT BE DONE. having a Rapier with tracking link and target painter effective bonuses are ******ED and that's what Logistics are for not Recons. It renders Rapiers completely USELESS and alot of people wont be happy. I don't know if this was just a roumor or what but if it's true then WOW CCP I've lost hope and faith in you. Where the hell did that come from? If thats a rumor it needs to be shot. Granted, after the nano nerf the Rapier/Huggin need to be re-evaluated for effectiveness because they dont get a web-strength bonus. If the Arazu gets that and loses RSDs, it'd be the ultimate lockdown ship, however what is there left for the Minmatar? Are RSDs worthy for them? Id think since they are the speed/scrapheap race it just doesnt mesh well. ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.
Asno Malo	Posted - 2008.09.08 18:00:00 - [100] Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker Where the hell did that come from? If thats a rumor it needs to be shot. Granted, after the nano nerf the Rapier/Huggin need to be re-evaluated for effectiveness because they dont get a web-strength bonus. If the Arazu gets that and loses RSDs, it'd be the ultimate lockdown ship, however what is there left for the Minmatar? Are RSDs worthy for them? Id think since they are the speed/scrapheap race it just doesnt mesh well. I hate to say it, but it would almost make sense to swap the Arazu's RSDs and the Rapiers webs, for the simple reason that the Rapier, due to it's speed, has the ability to maintain the RSD ranges whereas the Arazu does not. And conversely, the Arazu already has the WD/WS, so the web would actually make sense. Please note I am not advocating this swap, simply saying that it would make sense.
Tes Quin	Posted - 2008.11.23 21:18:00 - [101] still in need of a look into. -- ccp/isd, ty for the portrait
Sigras	Posted - 2008.11.24 09:24:00 - [102] Originally by: HookerChick I've been in countless battleship fights and get perma jammed by 5 heavy drones... or even ECMed by multispecs and racials. I've flown carriers and even a Nyx yet I still get jammed by a falcon with and without ECCM. You got jammed in a Nyx? ROFL Originally by: CCP Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.11.24 10:10:00 - [103] Originally by: Asno Malo Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker Where the hell did that come from? If thats a rumor it needs to be shot. Granted, after the nano nerf the Rapier/Huggin need to be re-evaluated for effectiveness because they dont get a web-strength bonus. If the Arazu gets that and loses RSDs, it'd be the ultimate lockdown ship, however what is there left for the Minmatar? Are RSDs worthy for them? Id think since they are the speed/scrapheap race it just doesnt mesh well. I hate to say it, but it would almost make sense to swap the Arazu's RSDs and the Rapiers webs, for the simple reason that the Rapier, due to it's speed, has the ability to maintain the RSD ranges whereas the Arazu does not. And conversely, the Arazu already has the WD/WS, so the web would actually make sense. Please note I am not advocating this swap, simply saying that it would make sense. The Zu would OMGWTFBBQ! :P FWIW I said this in another thread aswell but I recently got into the Zu, am really liking it and plan to not skill damps unless something changes. It's a useless shipbonus for me. Zu could use a buff or a rethink, yes.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.11.24 12:00:00 - [104] Originally by: Solomon XI A couple of good idea's I've read so far: Quote: Sensor Dampening Drones: Make them non-stacking nerfed. They will be in line with eWAR drones. Ok. Discuss. Would they become over-powered? Yea, very overpowered. Just imagine what happens if you put 30 dampener drones on a single ship... As it is, the ecm drones that are hated so much effectively suffer from stacking them, just do the math and compare the benefit you get from putting 5 med ecm drones on a target compared to 25 med ecms. Its not a linear increase in efficiency as you might think.
Camdim Caldari The first genesis INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.11.24 17:57:00 - [105] The real disscussion should be how EWar is broken as a whole. Once EWar is fixed then we can take a look at each ship and fix those ships. Right now with the disparity in power between the diffrent types of EWar and thier use in the game any other disscussion would be pointless till that part is fixed.
Chi Quan Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.13 15:23:00 - [106] please have a look at it CCP ---- Ceterum censeo blasters need some tracking love

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