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Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions One Stop Research 0	Posted - 2012.03.21 16:21:00 - [1] - Quote Hi all. I'm running a manufacturing corporation and our production is ramping up rapidly at the moment, to the point that selling it all is going to be difficult soon. I'm looking for a retailer so I can focus on the industrial side. I produce near Jita, and I'm looking to do daily drop-offs so as to keep my capital busy. We have about 70 production slots going, for a sense of scale. If you think you'd be interested, shoot me a mail and we can talk more.
Liberty Eternal Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness 33	Posted - 2012.03.23 11:07:00 - [2] - Quote This kind of thing is difficult and time-consuming for a trader to do. Having tried several times myself to do brokerage for various peeps, my experience is that it is not very profitable or much fun for the trader.
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions One Stop Research 0	Posted - 2012.03.23 11:18:00 - [3] - Quote Not looking for brokerage, closer to a buyer. We decide what's worth making, I make it and sell it to you below market, you sell it at market, and we both take an agreed-upon level of profit out of it. Since I can produce hundreds of an item at a time, even a relatively modest profit per item can benefit us both.
Liberty Eternal Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness 33	Posted - 2012.03.23 11:25:00 - [4] - Quote Aurel Svenson wrote: Not looking for brokerage, closer to a buyer. We decide what's worth making, I make it and sell it to you below market, you sell it at market, and we both take an agreed-upon level of profit out of it. Since I can produce hundreds of an item at a time, even a relatively modest profit per item can benefit us both. In the real World that would be a very good arrangement. The main problem in EVE is that there is no such thing as a stable market price. The prices change without warning - and in my experience that ruins it and leave the manufacturer and trader disappointed with the arrangement. The manufacturer wonders why the trader can't move volumes at predictable prices, and the trader starts to worry because his capital is being sucked into markets that he wouldn't want to trade at that time. [Not that I wish to discourage you or a potential trader from taking up your offer, but I thought I would suggest why no experienced traders have taken you up on your offer so far.] However, you say that you can be flexible and responsive - that might work, depending on how flexible is flexible.
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions One Stop Research 1	Posted - 2012.03.23 16:24:00 - [5] - Quote I'm actually flooded with offers via mail. I don't know with how many I'll come to an agreement, but so far I've done one exchange. Excellent/perfect, high run BPCs are available for the stuff I make, usually cheaply, and a BPO can often be made in just a few days. There's no billion ISK, many-week battleship BPOs in the mix. I don't make what the trader doesn't want, that would be foolish. In order to make a deal we'd have to find a market we both agree on. Speaking of blueprints, I should find someone who has them all...
Nick BlueStar BlueStar LLC 0	Posted - 2012.03.23 16:33:00 - [6] - Quote I would be slightly curious to know what you're manufacturing, as the margins, even with cheap BPC's, are terribly low for most manufacturing. Coming to an arrengement with a trader to buy your stuff at an EVEN LOWER price just seems crazy to me.
Maria Yumeno Venomous Cloud Scorned Syndicate 1	Posted - 2012.03.23 18:37:00 - [7] - Quote I agree with the posters above It is easier and for a market trader to tie his capital up in buy orders and sell to sell orders rather than directly from the manufacturer It is also more advantageous for you to sell directly to sell orders rather than under sell order price as you weou
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions One Stop Research 1	Posted - 2012.03.23 19:09:00 - [8] - Quote If you know your markets you can find sufficient margins. The opportunity cost of having money out in orders outweighs the lost margin; at a later date when we have way more money it might not make sense. I also can't easily access markets away from Jita while a trader is probably more suited to do so - so my volume could way more than double. And the money's not all there is to it: there's aggravation to me for monitoring market orders, and that's the case for some traders as well. Buying in one bunch without competition and on a timeline one controls makes life easy. Selling in one bunch without competition and on a timeline I control helps as well.
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 1	Posted - 2012.03.25 03:43:00 - [9] - Quote Quick bump, still looking for more.
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 10	Posted - 2012.04.01 11:08:00 - [10] - Quote And bump. Our slots graduate to Production Efficiency V today, and I think all of them are sitting empty :(
Otto3d Aerospace Corporation 0	Posted - 2012.04.01 15:46:00 - [11] - Quote What do you produce? Is it ships, minerals, battleships, cruisers, frigates?
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 10	Posted - 2012.04.01 18:25:00 - [12] - Quote Otto3d wrote: What do you produce? Is it ships, minerals, battleships, cruisers, frigates? Anything worth building. We work with potential buyers to find items worth making, and then make them.
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 10	Posted - 2012.04.08 11:10:00 - [13] - Quote 36 new slots opening up in the next 24 hours which need to be filled. Talk to me about your production needs!
Lauren Hellfury Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro. 306	Posted - 2012.04.08 11:14:00 - [14] - Quote Mail me, I have no "requirements" as to what you produce. As you said, you're looking for a retailer and I don't care what the stuff is so long as there is a market to sell to. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation
Liberty Eternal Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness 40	Posted - 2012.04.08 13:32:00 - [15] - Quote Just an update on this thread - I've been working with AS a couple weeks building stuff for the Jita markets. He's doing a good job and I've forwarded him 2 bil to cover his expenses for my next order. AS you should also update details of any other loans you've received before soliciting more contracts.
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 10	Posted - 2012.04.08 14:13:00 - [16] - Quote Good idea. So far Cyclone Solutions has received: 2B forward from Liberty Eternal 1B loan from Yarri Jiark We're not willing to accept any new loans/forwards until the order with Liberty Eternal is complete, and at that stage we would discuss it with Yarri Jiark. As a result we're limited to our current capital and may not be able to do exceptionally large orders in the remaining space.
LoBlo Fet Blackstar Inc. 8	Posted - 2012.04.08 23:12:00 - [17] - Quote Its nice to see corps working together in contracts. Most corps try to do it all themselves (the mineral acquistion, manufacturing, and marketing) from top to bottom. Having business interactions between corporations is more interesting IMHO. Hope your ventures continue to be successful. LoBlo.
Aina Sasaki Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.04.08 23:29:00 - [18] - Quote Agreed. Had I just a bit more capital myself, I probably would be interested in this type of arrangement. I think I might look into this in the future once I have a little bit more cash I can spare from my trade. :) - Rei
Ohaya Togenada Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.09 13:29:00 - [19] - Quote I'd be happy to do some business with you. I'll be looking for large and preferably recurring orders with exclusivity deals on selected modules. I'll contact you in-game when I get a chance.
Kei Darker Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 14	Posted - 2012.04.09 16:32:00 - [20] - Quote If you are still looking for buyers to take orders of your goods, I am most surely interested. Please send me an evemail with a sampling of items and prices. -Kei
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 14	Posted - 2012.04.09 17:56:00 - [21] - Quote I guess I should explain how I work. Pricing is almost always between the Jita buy and sell order prices. I require a threshold income per slot. Probably 3/4 of the items that have been suggested to me have been turned down as unfeasible, as often it makes more sense to simply buy them from sell orders. If you're willing to pay over the Jita buy price for quantity/aggravation reasons, I am of course fine with that as long as it's over my threshold income. There is no up-front cost, though on large orders I may request an advance in order to not cripple my daily finances (as noted previously in this thread I won't be taking orders large enough to need an advance until my current loans are corrected), it also guards me a bit against flaking. I do not have an extensive BPO collection, I make them once I get orders for them; I have my own facilities so it's usually reasonably fast. I also buy researched BPOs sometimes and I'm a big fan of BPCs. And I don't carry stock unless someone flakes. I guess I should mention the flake policy: if you flake on an order all future orders will require a non-refundable 50% advance. So far there have been two flakes, both quite profitable for me as the prices shot up right away XD Things will be a bit slow right now due to a griefdec but I don't think production will be hurt substantially. At the moment I'll be slow getting back to you due to RL, as well.
LoBlo Fet Blackstar Inc. 8	Posted - 2012.04.09 23:21:00 - [22] - Quote Aurel Svenson wrote: Things will be a bit slow right now due to a griefdec but I don't think production will be hurt substantially. That griefdec is unfortunate. If you need a neutral 3rd party to provide transport and freighter services until the dec expires then send me an evemail ingame. We may be able to make a deal to keep you reasonable operating until the dec resolves. LoBlo
Skadi vonNiflheim East Citadel Trading Company 6	Posted - 2012.04.10 02:23:00 - [23] - Quote have you tried Bulk mailing list 'Bulk Trade '. Might help move your goods
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 14	Posted - 2012.04.10 20:34:00 - [24] - Quote Okay, the wardec's been taken down. But school's still a little crazy so it'll be a couple days until I address everyone. The 2 billion forward is no longer the case so my only debt is 1B. I'm thinking about putting in a deposit for both security and cash-flow reasons; opinions?
Liberty Eternal Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness 42	Posted - 2012.04.10 23:00:00 - [25] - Quote Aurel Svenson wrote: Okay, the wardec's been taken down. But school's still a little crazy so it'll be a couple days until I address everyone. The 2 billion forward is no longer the case so my only debt is 1B. I'm thinking about putting in a deposit for both security and cash-flow reasons; opinions? Confirming receipt of items and return of 2 bil. Looking forward to getting more toys in the future
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions 14	Posted - 2012.04.11 13:01:00 - [26] - Quote I've decided to institute a 50% advance policy on all orders; it can be returned only until I've purchased the goods. It looks like I have enough buyers that I can afford to alienate those who don't trust me.
Aurel Svenson Cyclone Solutions Twilight Military Industrial Complex Alliance 17	Posted - 2012.04.14 19:05:00 - [27] - Quote Update: removing advance requirement. Exceptions: a) if you have canceled an order in the past b) if I can't break even on selling the item myself if you don't take it The maximum amount I can accept is 100M over all advances, for loan security purposes. Also bump ^_^

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