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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2008.08.09 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 09/08/2008 15:55:54
I propose the introduction of slash commands in eve. These wont be a major change in gameplay but just make it a bit easier for us to play the game. Instead of opening your people and places window, searching for a solar system and rightclicking the result to set your auto pilot, you could simply type /destination Jita in a chat window.
Examples:
starting a conversation with another player:
/convo [player name]
opening the market details of a specific item:
/market [item name]
set your auto pilot destination:
/destination [solar system name]
display the information window of anything in eve (items/players/solar systems/etc):
/info [name]
I'm sure we can come up with more slash commands. This is not any sort of revolutionary idea, just a small improvement that I think will make eve a lot easier to use for experienced players.
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2008.08.09 16:06:00 -
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naturally I support this.. ;)
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.09 16:23:00 -
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This would be awesome. One amendment though - /market (name) should perform a search on (name) and only display it if there's exactly one match. Also, /market quickbar and /market browse should be special commands, to jump to the respective windows(I doubt many would use them, but they don't interfere with the search, so we might as well give the option).
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Fadu Varon
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.08.09 16:36:00 -
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I wholeheartedly support this.
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Aurea SIbylla
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.08.09 16:39:00 -
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I completely support this.
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Elgarath
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Posted - 2008.08.09 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Elgarath on 09/08/2008 16:45:19
An excellent idea as long as it is tightly controlled...I don't think we need an emote-happy EVE universe...but a few quick commands would be nice...I support this idea.
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2008.08.09 16:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Elgarath
An excellent idea as long as it is tightly controlled...I don't think we need an emote-happy EVE universe...but a few quick commands would be nice...I support this idea.
well we already have /me which is enough for emotes. These commands are intended to be functional rather than emotes.
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Isabella Shih
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.08.09 17:19:00 -
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For practical stuff like you write I think this is a great idea. It would make life a lot easier for me too, and I'm not an "experienced player" :)
starting convos and looking up market details would be very nice.
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squiddie
Sleeper Technology Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.09 17:42:00 -
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brilliant. real men don't click! 
now propose a native linux client /o\ 
Vote against the nano nerf!
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Foulque
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Posted - 2008.08.09 17:49:00 -
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+ /contract name =]
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Ivena Amethyst
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Posted - 2008.08.09 17:59:00 -
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/support
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Akiba Penrose
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.09 19:58:00 -
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YES!
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Red Thunder
Most Wanted INC
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.09 20:15:00 -
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probably best not....people would just whine about it and get it nerfed...
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Kasandra Mae
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Posted - 2008.08.09 20:50:00 -
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Like it. Not sure if there is room for exploiting this by 3rd party programs thought. Might make macroing easier depending on the provided functions.
And imo if the attribute is not specific enough, just open those search windows that you get when auto-linking and such.
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2008.08.09 20:51:00 -
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Not a damn reason this shouldn't be implemented.
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Arithron
Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.09 20:56:00 -
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Good idea :)
Quote:
well we already have /me which is enough for emotes. These commands are intended to be functional rather than emotes.
We do? Well, learn something new everyday!!!
Take care,
Arithron
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Marcus Gideon
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2008.08.09 22:22:00 -
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I suppose it's a bit quicker than...
1) Type the name of the item/person/destination
2) Highlight the word
3) Right click, and select Auto Link
4) Navigate the menu to select exactly WHAT you meant to say
5) Right click the newly made link, to Set Destination or Show Info or whatever.
But I'd imagine it would still do the same "Choose what you mean" menu just to make sure.
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Hersheff
Dragon Core Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.09 22:47:00 -
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I think a gm already said somewhere (dunno were it was a while ago), that they cant implement slash commands because the chat interface is not connected to the game thing, decision running stuff, sorry i cant remember how he called it, and it was like this to prevent abusing/cheating/hacking.
Natural i support such an idea, wold be interesting, but a bit useless in lag fests.
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Stevens
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hersheff
I think a gm already said somewhere (dunno were it was a while ago), that they cant implement slash commands because the chat interface is not connected to the game thing, decision running stuff, sorry i cant remember how he called it, and it was like this to prevent abusing/cheating/hacking.
Natural i support such an idea, wold be interesting, but a bit useless in lag fests.
Hate to say but this is exactly correct. The chat is just an IRC network run by the Eve servers. That is why you can notice the chat time and the game times will be different.
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Tamoko
Damage Unlimited Inc
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.08.10 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Tamoko on 10/08/2008 00:42:57
oh my god, yes
/search "Character Name"
/search "Solar System Name"
/sea "Corporation Name"
/sea "Market Item Name"
/sea "Market Category"
/email "Player Name"
/email Corp
/email Alliance
/em "Player Name"
/autopilot set "Destination"
/ap set "Destination"
/ap route "safe"
/ap route "short"
/ap enable|on (not sure about that one, might ruffle the superstitious eve players' fears about macroing)
Could go on forever.
edit: Just because the client doesn't support it doesn't mean a damn thing about tomorrow. I'd rather view something helpful and awsome like this in the most positive light than just say it can't be done because the current system doesn't allow it.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2008.08.10 04:44:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Gideon on 10/08/2008 04:45:11
Originally by: Tamoko
edit: Just because the client doesn't support it doesn't mean a damn thing about tomorrow. I'd rather view something helpful and awsome like this in the most positive light than just say it can't be done because the current system doesn't allow it.
EFT - Ship statistics taking character stats into account
Evemon - Skill training timer, (current) item database
Start Eve - "Fullscreen" windowed mode
Just a couple of examples of improvements that Eve itself could have had, but players had to invent on their own.
CCP has pretty much given up on making "improvements" to their own interface and software overall. They'd rather let other people do it for them.
And really... when they do patch something, they have to spend the next few months "bug hunting".
Eve Online... a 5 year long Beta Test.
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MarleWH
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.10 05:26:00 -
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Oh man thats awesome.
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.08.10 11:22:00 -
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No. I'm all for making things easier, but this idea will just make CCP put off improving the user interface. With a UI overhaul, there is no need for things like this.
At a push, I'd have a 'run' window pop up on a bound button with a couple of drop-down boxes that you can tab between. i.e. bring it up, hit 'm' for the first drop-down to select Market, tab, 's' to select Search, tab, then start typing.
Even less work than your slash commands, and far, far neater. Slash commands are a very hackish way of doing things.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.08.10 11:41:00 -
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i like hugs
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Case Kovaks
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.08.10 11:56:00 -
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Nice Idea!
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Jeirth
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:39:00 -
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Ethaet
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:36:00 -
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Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature.
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.08.10 17:07:00 -
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Supportin
we are recruiting!
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2008.08.10 17:29:00 -
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Should have been here long time ago.
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Toman Jerich
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.10 17:44:00 -
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Can we get a /wrists command? For example,
/wrists afkcloak
Would automatically generate a post in the assembly hall requesting a nerf to afk cloaking? The /wrists command would really save an effort for a lot of people.
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Aiko Intaki
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Posted - 2008.08.10 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Aiko Intaki on 10/08/2008 17:58:28
As long as we don't see /follow any time soon, I like it. 
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Windjammer
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Posted - 2008.08.10 18:34:00 -
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I like this idea very much. As long as it doesn't create a security problem by introducing vectors a hacker could exploit.
Best regards,
Windjammer
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Mister Xerox
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Posted - 2008.08.10 20:34:00 -
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Yeah, convenient ways of accessing something (solar system via the P&P window) that takes keeping a window open when used often would be a great help, to be sure.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.11 01:13:00 -
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text goes here
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Windjammer
I like this idea very much. As long as it doesn't create a security problem by introducing vectors a hacker could exploit.
Best regards,
Windjammer
this would really just be a way for quicker access to certain parts of the UI (info windows, convo's, etc). So no commands like /shoot, /follow, /warp, etc.
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Gaius Terium
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:03:00 -
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This idea is 100% 
/signed.
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Elektrea
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.11 21:36:00 -
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awesome idea
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2008.08.17 07:49:00 -
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Here is my input to the CSM Submission document:
Intro
Support for slash commands already existed within the EVE Client's interface, eg. used for Autopilot during Beta and GMs on a daily basis.
Areas Affected
Macro Miners
There is a risk that players using macros may increase with the simplified requirements to only send slash commands rather than the more complex memory cache and pixel reading required today.
Hardware Balancing vs. Advantage
Owners of programmable keyboards such as Logitech G15 will be able automatically script ship movements eg. for scouting, spying etc.
Eg. /destination HED-GP
{Autopilot Shortcut Key}
[Wait 20 seconds]
/destination Keberez
{Autopilot Shortcut Key}
[Loop]
On the other hand, with introduction of /slash commands to support (and/or extend) all the configurable short-cuts, would actually have a levelling effect between players, that don't have sufficient keys on their keyboard to enable all short cuts and those with programmable keyboards.
Potential Solution(s)
Re-enable rights for players to use slash commands, however do not enable any flight control operations that are not already included in the keyboard short-cuts.
Focus first on slash commands for all the features listed in the client configurable short-cuts.
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TimGascoigne
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:23:00 -
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yes sounds nice
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Grann Thefauto
Running with Knives
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Posted - 2008.08.18 18:00:00 -
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Desperately need /dance, also, if we could implement night elves...
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GOd SAvior
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Posted - 2008.08.19 10:47:00 -
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Ok, might be decent idea. Even if it was just /find "target"(etc) and /destination clear, which bugs me most (to clear all autopilot waypoints).
Two of the most slowest things to open in UI would be better with it (map -> remove waypoints and P&P search, which is littered with BMs). |
ian666
Rave Technologies Inc.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.08.19 11:36:00 -
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great idea for macro users |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.19 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: ian666
great idea for macro users
Do you assume CCP is stupid? |
GulletSplitter
Maasai Tribal Products
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2008.08.19 14:19:00 -
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supported....but I agree on the no movement commands...
I'd also say no targeting.... |
NanDe YaNen
The Funkalistic
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Posted - 2008.08.19 14:31:00 -
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/t2bpo |
Arthmandar Valikari
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Posted - 2008.08.19 23:29:00 -
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As a mad typing fool, I'm totally in for this.
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Torus Schwert
German Kings
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.20 11:21:00 -
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some more power for the chat would be nice |
Akyan
InQuest Ascension
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.08.20 12:04:00 -
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This is a horrible idea, almost all the commands that have been suggested so can be manipulated to help isk sellers, macro miners, and who knows what else.
/conv - Great lets make it even easier to spam chat channels, by both isk sellers and the general players.
/evemail - See above.
/destination - Combined with hotkeys to turn on automatic pilot, nice to reduce the actual human interaction required for empire macrominers etc.
If any of these were were implemented there would have to be some kind of very careful monitoring to make sure they are not abused in any number of ways. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.22 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Akyan
This is a horrible idea, almost all the commands that have been suggested so can be manipulated to help isk sellers, macro miners, and who knows what else.
/conv - Great lets make it even easier to spam chat channels, by both isk sellers and the general players.
/evemail - See above.
/destination - Combined with hotkeys to turn on automatic pilot, nice to reduce the actual human interaction required for empire macrominers etc.
If any of these were were implemented there would have to be some kind of very careful monitoring to make sure they are not abused in any number of ways.
Do you really think someone who is willing to macro an entire setup to play the game extensively has not figured out how to send an evemail or start a convo? Besides, virtually every other MMO has similar commands, and still manages to fight macros. I prefer functionality for players than pathetic and ineffective roadblocks for people who can easily get around them.
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Seth Raine
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Posted - 2008.08.22 02:20:00 -
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Jerni
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Posted - 2008.09.08 07:02:00 -
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Kyle Cataclysm
Blue.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 08:27:00 -
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Go thread, go!
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Jay See
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Posted - 2008.09.17 09:30:00 -
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\o/
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Sugarush
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.19 18:33:00 -
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/roll
Ship does a barrel roll and becomes invulnerable to incoming fire for a brief period.
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Dark 'Shadow
Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.20 00:34:00 -
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Hell yes.
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Sodium Phosphate
Gallente
Killer Koalas
Kingdom of Butan
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Posted - 2008.09.20 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Sodium Phosphate on 20/09/2008 01:06:44
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Akyan
This is a horrible idea, almost all the commands that have been suggested so can be manipulated to help isk sellers, macro miners, and who knows what else.
/conv - Great lets make it even easier to spam chat channels, by both isk sellers and the general players.
/evemail - See above.
/destination - Combined with hotkeys to turn on automatic pilot, nice to reduce the actual human interaction required for empire macrominers etc.
If any of these were were implemented there would have to be some kind of very careful monitoring to make sure they are not abused in any number of ways.
Do you really think someone who is willing to macro an entire setup to play the game extensively has not figured out how to send an evemail or start a convo? Besides, virtually every other MMO has similar commands, and still manages to fight macros. I prefer functionality for players than pathetic and ineffective roadblocks for people who can easily get around them.
It's not that it'll make things easier for macros but for new people to use macros. Some people are to lazy to learn macro languages or macro logic, your making it easier for these people to macro. Which just brings even more macros into the game.
yes other games fight macros, but EvE's U.I makes it difficult for these things already and CCP already has a lax policy on macros. I'm sure that EvE in comparison to WoW has less bots, why add more to CCP's workload just for a few / commands?
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Vorononv Circut
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Posted - 2008.09.20 05:12:00 -
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/notsigned
Sorry... but this would give macros way too much opportunity. Every five year old and his mama' could take data mining and abuse to a whole new level with this.
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Orion GUardian
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Posted - 2008.09.22 00:46:00 -
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IRC style ftw signed
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Joss Sparq
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.22 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Examples:
starting a conversation with another player:
/convo [player name]
opening the market details of a specific item:
/market [item name]
set your auto pilot destination:
/destination [solar system name]
display the information window of anything in eve (items/players/solar systems/etc):
/info [name]
You sir, just gave me a rigid boner with this thread.
I happily support this idea and hope it'll be an eventual success.
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Padanemi
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Posted - 2008.09.22 08:11:00 -
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"/link Anything"
...instead of typing, selecting, right-clicking
It should still give you the menu, it would save TONS of time though
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General Longkill
The Subtle Knife
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.22 15:01:00 -
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a worthy idea |
Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2008.09.23 09:23:00 -
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/signed - well not as a command :-)
these are long needed ... the amount of mouseclicks in eve is starting to show on my wrists ...
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Elaron
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.24 04:52:00 -
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Definitely support this, as long as the introduced commands only relate to search and station services. Nothing related to flight. |
Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.24 08:07:00 -
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not supported
Reason is that it is very easy to inject textual data into the chat windows of EVE, especially when windowed.
Basically, if this gets implemented, hellooo macros.
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