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Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.08.10 08:32:00 - [1] post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.08.10 08:43:00 - [2] Originally by: Pan Crastus post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) Wow, 3036m/sec is fast. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y COLLECTION Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.08.10 08:46:00 - [3] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Pan Crastus post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) Wow, 3036m/sec is fast. Yep, 400m/s faster than a similarly fit Osprey Navy Issue ... sigh How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:11:00 - [4] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Pan Crastus post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) Wow, 3036m/sec is fast. 2500ish orbit speed most likely. Doesn't speed tank anything at 2500m/s.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:13:00 - [5] Originally by: Euriti Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Pan Crastus post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) Wow, 3036m/sec is fast. 2500ish orbit speed most likely. Doesn't speed tank anything at 2500m/s. Is 'speed tank' code for 'completely invulnerable'? Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y COLLECTION Inveniam viam aut faciam.
kessah Suicidal Tendencies Ltd	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:18:00 - [6] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Euriti Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Pan Crastus post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) Wow, 3036m/sec is fast. 2500ish orbit speed most likely. Doesn't speed tank anything at 2500m/s. Is 'speed tank' code for 'completely invulnerable'? lol. qft.
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Is 'speed tank' code for 'completely invulnerable'? There is no such thing as "speed tank" after the patch. There is only "sig res tank" and ECM left as an alternative to fitting an active or (large) buffer tank. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:27:00 - [8] Edited by: Gamesguy on 10/08/2008 09:27:43 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Euriti Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Pan Crastus post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) Wow, 3036m/sec is fast. 2500ish orbit speed most likely. Doesn't speed tank anything at 2500m/s. Is 'speed tank' code for 'completely invulnerable'? 6km/s vagas were easilly tracked by my zealot loaded with scorch(and no tracking mods to boot). You'd have to go like 10km+/s to actually start seeing damage decreases from my zealot. 3km/s is "lol I hit you with megapulse" territory.
Ihrda Siharkhail Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Pan Crastus post-patch Stabber Fleet Issue with 3 Polycarbs and 3 ODII: 3107m/s ... (without Polycarbs: 3036m/s) Wow, 3036m/sec is fast. obvious troll is obvious
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Gamesguy 3km/s is "lol I hit you with megapulse" territory.

Reem Fairchild Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.08.10 09:58:00 - [11] I question the Eve pvp combat experience of anyone who thinks anything less than 4 km/s is "fast". Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are pleased to aim! Or was that the other way around?
Maeltstome Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks	Posted - 2008.08.10 10:03:00 - [12] explain the sense to me: Polycarbons now effect Speed and Agility directly - when before they affected mass, which indirectly changed both of these when MWD'ing. Here's the issue - 2x polycarbons is now similar to 1x aux thruster and 1 x low-fric nozzle. Problem is, polycarbs stack against each other, these 2 mods dont - making polycarbons pointless and completely removing all MASS-REDUCTION rigs from the game. Try your setup again with 3x Nanofiber and 3x Polycarbon. Then 3x Nano, 3x Aux thruster. You loose agility but get speed. Yes, CCP are worryingly dense sometimes. ------- [12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.08.10 10:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Reem Fairchild I question the Eve pvp combat experience of anyone who thinks anything less than 4 km/s is "fast". My current TQ Vaga tops out at around 14k/sec w/o gang bonuses. My Sisi Vaga, not so much... 3+km/sec on Sisi is now 'fast' for a cruiser. Particularly an unrigged one. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y COLLECTION Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Forge Lag	Posted - 2008.08.10 10:30:00 - [14] all this thread shows is that nanofreak have no clue about tracking and what speed brings unless they can totally break the game engine. Go Caldari if you cannot play minmatar.
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.08.10 10:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Forge Lag all this thread shows is that nanofreak have no clue about tracking and what speed brings unless they can totally break the game engine. Go Caldari if you cannot play minmatar. Don't worry, those who won't leave the game or have good Amarr skills, will. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Red zeon Caldari Shades Corp The OSS	Posted - 2008.08.10 11:35:00 - [16] your vaga tops 14000m/s in tq, clearly you must understand why this fix is coming, intercetors should be the fastest ships.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.08.10 11:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Maeltstome explain the sense to me: Polycarbons now effect Speed and Agility directly - when before they affected mass, which indirectly changed both of these when MWD'ing. Here's the issue - 2x polycarbons is now similar to 1x aux thruster and 1 x low-fric nozzle. Problem is, polycarbs stack against each other, these 2 mods dont - making polycarbons pointless and completely removing all MASS-REDUCTION rigs from the game. Try your setup again with 3x Nanofiber and 3x Polycarbon. Then 3x Nano, 3x Aux thruster. You loose agility but get speed. Yes, CCP are worryingly dense sometimes. Only sometimes?
Archillius maximus Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2008.08.10 11:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Red zeon your vaga tops 14000m/s in tq, clearly you must understand why this fix is coming, intercetors should be the fastest ships. lol? Inerceptors are the fastest ships, if you put faction mods on your interceptor like the guy did on his vagabond your interceptor will go faster...
Ihrda Siharkhail Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.08.10 12:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Red zeon your vaga tops 14000m/s in tq, clearly you must understand why this fix is coming, intercetors should be the fastest ships. have you tried fitting a mwd on your interceptor, it might help
Steyr Daghan thx for all the fish Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2008.08.10 15:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Reem Fairchild I question the Eve pvp combat experience of anyone who thinks anything less than 4 km/s is "fast". I question the pvp combat experience of nano-whiners who can't win unless they go 10km/s.

Sun Paktu Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.08.10 15:33:00 - [21] need more speed. they shouldve boosted speed not nerfed it most ships are unbearably slow. its too bad - maybe they can nerf tracking next -Sun Paktu, Kiith Paktu co-founder Honorary Director, incharge of space dust. See you in space.
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.10 15:49:00 - [22] Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 10/08/2008 15:50:44 RIP speed tanks But seriously, entire tank line destroyed by ccp unless you're an interceptor Oh well; I'm Caldari Originally by: Steyr Daghan I question the pvp combat experience of nano-whiners who can't win unless they go 10km/s. This sums up the rampant ignorance on this forum
Furb Killer Gallente The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.08.10 15:52:00 - [23] Interceptor pilots are also whining... Actually speeds will become faster in non nano combat. You will be able to move when being primaried by a small gang instead of having several 90% webs on you.
DarthJosh DEATHFUNK	Posted - 2008.08.10 17:03:00 - [24] Originally by: Steyr Daghan Originally by: Reem Fairchild I question the Eve pvp combat experience of anyone who thinks anything less than 4 km/s is "fast". I question the pvp combat experience of nano-whiners who can't win unless they go 10km/s. ^^ Fairchild = 1-2 year game experience? can't be more. - Desusigs!
Xiaodown coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.10 18:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Red zeon your vaga tops 14000m/s in tq, clearly you must understand why this fix is coming, intercetors should be the fastest ships. Come on, man. I haven't spent a lot of time fitting uber fits on an interceptor, but I have a crow w/ a Gist B-type (25M), one polycarb, one aux thruster, and a mix of T2 nanos and overdrives in the lows, and when I'm not in my snake set, I hit 8.5km/sec before overload. With overload, it's more like 12km/sec. With snakes + overload + standard x-instinct + gang bonuses, I'm going something over 22km/s. 12km/s for a ship that you can get for like 60M these days is pretty damn fast. Definitely faster than almost all vagabonds. -- Sig under construction.
Maijugs Arhueg	Posted - 2008.08.10 21:21:00 - [26] O NOES, now you'll have to tank like the rest of us and think twice before attacking someone. DOOM, I SAY!
Ihrda Siharkhail Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.08.10 21:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Maijugs Arhueg O NOES, now you'll have to tank like the rest of us and think twice before attacking someone. DOOM, I SAY! theres been nothing stopping you from flying nanoships yourself, so its not really our fault that youve been owned
Gripen Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.08.10 22:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Ihrda Siharkhail Originally by: Maijugs Arhueg O NOES, now you'll have to tank like the rest of us and think twice before attacking someone. DOOM, I SAY! theres been nothing stopping you from flying nanoships yourself, so its not really our fault that youve been owned Can you imagine that there are people with billions on their wallet to afford any stuff they like and with all speed-related skills maxed out but who still do not enjoy current nano age?
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.10 22:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Gripen Can you imagine that there are people with billions on their wallet to afford any stuff they like and with all speed-related skills maxed out but who still do not enjoy current nano age? I can imagine pilots like myself that have never flown a nano and who doesn't mind the nano age at all. I don't really mind the nano change, it just sucks that they are willing to completely remove an entire portion of the game just so a vaga can't break 6km/s. There are a lot of people saying that a 3km/s vaga is "fair". Well sure, but how about the nano ships that go 3km/s now. Why are these broken, and why are they being removed from the game?
Tomsudy Minmatar Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.08.10 22:54:00 - [30] i really think this nano nerf is a good thing, starts to get people to think about there setups again and it will finally stop the omg i got killed by a ship which goes fast threads. If you are unable to adapt to changes then you dont have a place in eve because it will always change. Even after this nano 'fix' im pretty damn certain that the whiny members of eve will find something else which beats them and there will be another situation like there is now.



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