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Organ grinder	Posted - 2004.06.02 09:08:00 - [1] I am posting as an alt to protect my identity. Made for mates, this should let anyone in Xetic know I am not CA. I have been active in the war since the beginning and have flown under numerous fleet commanders and joined groups of raiders into CA space. My finding from flying fleet in Xetic space is the commanders have a very different attitude to engagement than CA do. Xetic fleets sit in systems a couple of jumps from the main CA attack fleets securing positions and running the odd scout mission. This takes hours and very rarely ever end in a real stand up fight. Its almost like they would rather play the evasion dance than just work out what ships they have and command an assault. After all its our space and we have ships and resourse here to sustain a prolonged attack on them. Anyone looking in would think the opposite. CA on the other hand do seem to have a no fear approach to how they wash over our space taking station after station with never any resistance. I am not going to say this is true of every situation but on the whole I feel we need to get some balls and putting our selves out there and fighting not watching as they just move freely. Screw implants and the worry of being podded, screw worrying about ship loss figures, lets hit them head on, I am sure we have the pilots and ships to do it!!
Melle Brast	Posted - 2004.06.02 09:33:00 - [2] Edited by: Melle Brast on 02/06/2004 09:35:06 Ok, I am fairly new to this game, however I have followed the forums for a long time. It is not my style to interfier with wars I am not a part of, however this post just forced me into breaking this rule. CA are very active posters here on the forum, little bit too active sometimes. Every day they seem to come up with tactics how to weaken other corps/alliances mentally by posting similar things. Great tactic if done the right way, sorry to say that this post don't belong to them. This post is a really really really low blow from your side CA, it actually shows that you are porpably desperate atm, having problems catching the opposite forces. It is very sad to see that an alliance with great, if not the best, PvPers have to resort to this kind of tactics. Whoever ordered this to be written should be hung officially outside the busiest statioon in Yulai. You are a disgrace for the whole alliance of CA. I, and propably many other, can only hope that most of CA do not approve of this cowardless tactic. Shame on You, Have a great fight, Melle Brast
Zelota	Posted - 2004.06.02 09:58:00 - [3] every thing he ses is true,i would doupt that any body in ca would post things like this.And if this is not some idiot trying to be funy then i feel the same you gota put more guts into it.I wana fight you head on see you in xetic space soon Vid of the week
Organ grinder	Posted - 2004.06.02 10:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Zelota every thing he ses is true,i would doupt that any body in ca would post things like this.And if this is not some idiot trying to be funy then i feel the same you gota put more guts into it.I wana fight you head on see you in xetic space soon I am on the level. I mean not to disrespect my fellow Xetic pilots as there are many who I would fly into battle with at the drop of a hat. I have to say that it may be a case of getting used to loss. My own personal feelings about it are the more ships you lose the less attached you get to them. Losing your first ship can break some player and either leave them miners forever or drive them from the game. If you get over this the more ships you lose the more experience you gain and thus the more confident you are in combat and of into entering it. I just see a mass of players on our side wanting to get into combat but due to leaders not sure about how to deal with loss not commiting to engaging. Maybe it is because we were miners and need a period of learning to get up to speed. But just feel we need to make a bigger impact when we are on home turf.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.06.02 10:37:00 - [5] xetic got a lot of resources, ca got almost none... if xetic use their resources right their chance to win is far far better then ca... "We brake for nobody"
Soule	Posted - 2004.06.02 10:38:00 - [6] Edited by: Soule on 02/06/2004 10:42:51 Wow whoever you are this is a very low post, shame you havent got the courage to identify yourself. Xetic always have been underrated, that is their strength and definately not a weakness. This war is their opportunity to gain alot of valuable experience, if CA think they can defeat them, that is their weakness. Arrogance never wins wars, not in the long term
Karhig Duruckhai	Posted - 2004.06.02 10:40:00 - [7] I doubt that this is a CA alt. CA members would have absolutly no problems with posting these comments about the Xetic fleet with their mains. And I don't think we try and undermine the moral of our enemy with forum posts. CA has no psy-ops plan, we're just arrogant and outspoken
Organ grinder	Posted - 2004.06.02 10:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Soule Edited by: Soule on 02/06/2004 10:42:51 Wow whoever you are this is a very low post, shame you havent got the courage to identify yourself. Xetic always have been underrated, that is their strength and definately not a weakness. This war is their opportunity to gain alot of valuable experience, if CA think they can defeat them, that is their weakness. Arrogance never wins wars, not in the long term I don't reveal myself because I am a lame @ss chicken, and fear the reprocussions. Bringing honour into the equation will make no difference to how I post. We are under rated in what we can do, which is an advantage. But without ever pushing that advantage we will forever be playing ping pong with our stations and watching CA roam free in our space. All I want is to see some action from the guys at the top. Its all well and good following orders and having to sit and watch as E8 changes hands yet again but there is only so long I can stay silent and watch!!!!
Sphalerite	Posted - 2004.06.02 10:55:00 - [9] Originally by: Organ grinder I am posting as an alt to protect my identity. snip I feel we need to get some balls.
Soule	Posted - 2004.06.02 11:00:00 - [10] Organ Grinder, I am not joining in any further with this discussion after this post. This is not the place to air your views, and you know this if u didnt you would post with your main character. If you are really a member of xetic bring this up in the relevant places, you will earn more respect.
Organ grinder	Posted - 2004.06.02 12:18:00 - [11] Originally by: Soule Organ Grinder, I am not joining in any further with this discussion after this post. This is not the place to air your views, and you know this if u didnt you would post with your main character. If you are really a member of xetic bring this up in the relevant places, you will earn more respect. Maybe this is the wrong place to air my view like this. But as I feel the problem is not being addressed within Xetic it takes rash actions to maybe get the guys at the top to take some sort of positive action. I am not looking for respect or honour or anything like that! If I was I would not have posted at all and carried on watching CA ships play with us as we watch from afar under orders not to engage!!
Woetra	Posted - 2004.06.02 12:27:00 - [12] you mean Xetic assembles all their battleships in one place and the CA don't engage? WTF!!!!!!!!! what kind of pwnage is that? Oi CA NO! Sig Thief
Duke Droklar	Posted - 2004.06.02 12:41:00 - [13] Edited by: Duke Droklar on 02/06/2004 12:48:05 I for one would not condone anyone from CA posting this as an alt. It does sound to me like it is a xetic alt though. What he says is the truth. The last several days the xetic forces have basically run at every oportunity even when they have a good numbers advantage. If this continues they will surely lose control of their territory. As I told the men, "they're trying to bore us out". It won't work, we have other things to do when you refuse to fight. Xetic should consider surrender and reparations to end this if you now understand that you will not win and the longer it goes on the more isk you lose. Surrender would not mean the end of your alliance and it would allow you to get back to your daily routine. Edit: Woetra, use your head, they are in safespots 99% of the time. When they come out they are engaged and destroyed.
TylerJames	Posted - 2004.06.02 12:41:00 - [14] Edited by: TylerJames on 02/06/2004 12:43:31 well..he says this quote will let people know he is truly xetic: "Made for mates, this should let anyone in Xetic know I am not CA." Maybe we need someone from xetic to make this call..as i have no idea what it means or refers to..anyhow,the man raises a very good point......losing those first few ships, and the implants, goes a long way towards not being scared of PVP...I personally have spent too much of my time in this game as a "carebear miner", and have spent the last few weeks in combat...been blown up a few times, and guess what? after the first couple times it's no big deal. I am not saying rush headlong to your doom.....but for god's sake..this is an action game....and the action is fun..even when you are defeated..sometimes you take the defeat as "taking one for the team" This is why I fly with the CA now, after leaving an alliance that was basically carebears..even tho we have sustained some "friendly fire" from corps who do not have standings towards us..but every day we get more and more to know who we are. And I must say..I have had more fun in the last 2 weeks than I have had in the previous 9 or 10 months. Remember it's a game..ships can be gotten again.....and whats the point of flying warships if youre not going into combat? My 2 cents worth. TJ
olyyy	Posted - 2004.06.02 12:57:00 - [15] Edited by: olyyy on 02/06/2004 13:00:13 Organ grinder you sound like a CA: -> first it's not "xetic" it's "XIF", if u were in XIF imo u should know that. -> Second XIF is having forums for its members. So you could as well post on them -> third for posting on officials forums what u posted with an alt, the worse thing that could have happened to u would have been a blame for not posting it on XIF forums instead -> last but not least, if you were really on the side of XIF you wouldn't be saying what u said, especially on XIF commanders. So I give you 1 option to proove u are not a CA alt, since u sound exactly like one: reveal your identity, stop being a coward and grow some guts (yes I think it's u who need some and not XIF) Now thx CA for this nice alt, kthxbye Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.06.02 12:57:00 - [16] Could be, who knows without the real name. If you are, your not helping in any way posting here. Quote: Xetic should consider surrender and reparations to end this if you now understand that you will not win and the longer it goes on the more isk you lose. Surrender would not mean the end of your alliance and it would allow you to get back to your daily routine. Thats a vastly different tone to the original demands Duke. Anyhow, we are 'Weeding'. As everyone knows, an alliance is fat and sloppy in peacetime. As the CFS knows, many take advantage of this and get rich while their commitment is shallow. Weeding was needed and it will make us stronger. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Sochin	Posted - 2004.06.02 12:58:00 - [17] I'm friggin sick of everyone always assuming the worst about CA. Its like the myth of the liberal media. All you goddamn sheep listen to our enemies spout bull** about us 24/7, and then have the nerve to tell us WE'RE lying? The CA has never had an official propaganda effort running, because we feel that our actions speak louder then words. We are, however, getting tired of the bull** people say about us on a daily basis being believed so fervently by the rest of EVE, so we are taking steps to remedy it. The CA is currently negotiating with news agencies to have reporters embedded in our fleets to document battles. We also have a significant amount of Fraps footage from the Xetic campaign and recent battles in U-Q that we're preparing to release. What I want to know is: Do you believe this guy is a CA alt because you think we're all devious, deceptive pirates, or because what he says can't be true because you think Xetic is winning? Nemo me impune lacessit
HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:02:00 - [18] Sigh as long as he doesn't say from which alliance his is (he can say whatever he wants with an alt) we dont know from which alliance he is do we as Olyyy said we use Xif instead of Xetic __________ HC MasiEEE
Morlock	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:04:00 - [19] the words of a man who lacks the courage to stand behind them are worthless
The Daddy	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:04:00 - [20] I think the phrase "Lions led by Donkeys" is quite apt when talking of XiF. Their forces show a lot of bottle, but the leadership leaves a lot to be desired. I also welcome this opportunity for a XIF member albeit an alt to state what they think rather than being muzzled in the XiF forums. Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit!
Ron Jeremy2K	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock xetic got a lot of resources, ca got almost none... if xetic use their resources right their chance to win is far far better then ca... Trust me when i say we have LOTS of resources
Organ grinder	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:13:00 - [22] Ok so my words are from a pathetic fool who worries about his main getting the full backlash from his action here. But my words are not meant to be kind or easy to hear I want them to burn deep and be understood. I may be only one poster but I have many who feel the same as myself from corporations across the Xetic(XIF). So ignore me by all means carry on the war effort as it has been so far. If I didn't give a damn about what was happening why bother posting in the first place.
Ron Jeremy2K	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:15:00 - [23] Originally by: Woetra you mean Xetic assembles all their battleships in one place and the CA don't engage? WTF!!!!!!!!! what kind of pwnage is that? Oi CA NO! How would you know what goes on in Xetic space,.. thats rigth you dont so stfu troll
Sochin	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:29:00 - [24] ALRIGHT I call on all CA members to STOP posting in this thread. Lets not let a flamewar dilute the message of the original poster. Nemo me impune lacessit
Zelota	Posted - 2004.06.02 13:34:00 - [25] Edited by: Zelota on 02/06/2004 13:43:41 sorry sochin dint reed all the post befor posting snip Vid of the week
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2004.06.02 14:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Ron Jeremy2K Originally by: Admiral IceBlock xetic got a lot of resources, ca got almost none... if xetic use their resources right their chance to win is far far better then ca... Trust me when i say we have LOTS of resources I do hope that you mean that those resources are yet to be mined, because else i will conv you tonight to do some sharing. So i gues i talk to you tonight eh? __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2004.06.02 14:05:00 - [27] Originally by: DREAMWORKS Originally by: Ron Jeremy2K Originally by: Admiral IceBlock xetic got a lot of resources, ca got almost none... if xetic use their resources right their chance to win is far far better then ca... Trust me when i say we have LOTS of resources I do hope that you mean that those resources are yet to be mined, because else i will conv you tonight to do some sharing. So i gues i talk to you tonight eh? Think someone is in need of a good explanation __________ HC MasiEEE
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.06.02 14:07:00 - [28] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: DREAMWORKS Originally by: Ron Jeremy2K Originally by: Admiral IceBlock xetic got a lot of resources, ca got almost none... if xetic use their resources right their chance to win is far far better then ca... Trust me when i say we have LOTS of resources I do hope that you mean that those resources are yet to be mined, because else i will conv you tonight to do some sharing. So i gues i talk to you tonight eh? Think someone is in need of a good explanation "We brake for nobody"
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.06.02 14:10:00 - [29] Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 02/06/2004 14:14:44 This isn't really a war to be honest. It consists of xetic forming pockets of resitance, us going to those pockets and them simply logging or running. Rarely are engagements taking place, if they are its simply gank sessions. Xetic have been polite enemies and i do not feel any hate between the two sides. I simply hope they come to their senses soon, it's my understanding their attempting the bore tactic in the hope that we go away. A large portion of this fleet is comprised of those that were down in Stain and Paragon soul. We are very much used to bore tactics and the only thing you'll be effecting is your own level of enjoyment. Surrendering imo wouldn't be a bad thing for Xetic. Admitedly i've never seen one single entity in a game like this surrdender to another... ever. heh :/ Reverend Necrona
Cmdr Sp0ck	Posted - 2004.06.02 14:14:00 - [30] I don't know if your from XIF or not, and i don't really care. All i have to say is, if you are a XIF member then post on the proper forums what you think is wrong and what you would like to see changed. Posting this way won't help in any way. And if you think that leading an inexperienced fleet of players to fight the well organized war machine of CA is easy then your welcome to try. As for CA, congratulations on a well organized fleet. It's deadly and a HELL to fight against. It's being fun and smack is minimal. We'll continue to do our best. Cya in space guys. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You humans are extremely irritant with your illogical behaviour and irrational thought" --------

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