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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.08.13 02:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Mr Horizontal
Originally by: cosmoray
Now I like the ideas and options EBank are planning, I have a question:
1. Will EBank charge commisions for using the exchange (to the IPO launcher or via trading)
2. or, is this to provide added services to help the secondary market and the customer experience
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Good question. Why don't you answer it! 
Basically, you have normal and virtualized shares. Our plans for the exchange are not to make money from a commission structure, but it would use commissions to make virtualized shares more attractive and balance the inherent disadvantage virtualized shares being bound by EBANK's exchange rules over normal shares that are bound by nothing.
We can charge for listing, commission for buying and commission for selling, as well as using anything provided by EBANK like it's various tools etc.
The only cost we are definite about is to have an excessive teller charge for bringing excessive amounts of your ingame shares in and out of the Exchange so as not to abuse the human element of this.
In all honesty though this was something we haven't nailed exactly, and was something we'd sort out while testing the exchange. If you have ideas for a structure now, then I'm listening 
If someone is launching a virtual IPO, then I would not charge for listing on the exchange.
Makes a good incentive to IPO launcher to have on your exchange which means more business.
I would probably charge a sellers commision of 1% just like tax in Eve. This would add up if it became a popular way to trade like the Eve markets, and make it cheap to trade. Volume is key
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.08.13 02:50:00 -
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I am sure there will be a few small fee's like those in EBANK. We generally keep them quite low as we prefer (for example) 1000 customers paying 10k rather than 100 customers paying 100k. We want these tools to be available to anyone. Our fee will be small but as you said above they will add up over time which is fine by us.
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Thorrak McFluffypants
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Posted - 2008.08.13 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: ECredit
Originally by: Thorrak McFluffypants
Originally by: Hexxx
Honestly though, in the beginning I think we're only supporting 100% virtual shares first, and I'd encourage people to just do a 100% EBANK Exchange launch.
The issue with 100% virtualization of shares is that, as stated previously, it locks out non-EBANK-participants. For reasons discussed elsewhere I personally am not comfortable with EBANK at this time, and as such would not be able to participate in a 100% EBANK IPO. Although I would only be a drop in the bucket, I doubt I am alone in this, and as such an EBANK IPO would necessarily be limiting its prospective participants.
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No one is holding a gun to your head. You can choose the level of expsure you want to have related to EBANK services and investment options. As a matter of fact I encourage it as a smart move. Your investment portfolio should be diverse. Just like in real life. There are mutiple stock exchanges in the world and I hope once choose to invest in mutiple stock echanges in EVe is that is thier desire.
I think you missed the point of my post -- Although noone is holding a gun to my head, a 100% virtualized IPO would not allow for shares to be sold through other stock exchanges.
You and I are in agreement on the point you posted, however -- diversification is a good thing. I'm just arguing that a 100% virtualized IPO would mean that you couldn't diversify out of the EBANK basket.
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2008.08.13 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Thorrak McFluffypants
Although noone is holding a gun to my head, a 100% virtualized IPO would not allow for shares to be sold through other stock exchanges.
This is something all of the exchanges are going to have to deal with including EBANK. Like any good service or company EBANK strives to make it's "product" better then the rest. EBANK is going to set the bar pretty high in terms of tools and functionality, we would never want to force CEOs into using our exchange of any others, let alone launching the IPO without an exchange. However it's our duty make it more attractive to use.
If the other exchanges don't step up to the plate that EBANK has laid before them, we can't be held responsible for no one using them.
We are simply offering a service that for the time being will be second to none. We're not going to force the exchange down anyones throats. It's just a service that is offered, the choice is still within any CEO to use it or not.
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Mr Horizontal
Gallente
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.13 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
If someone is launching a virtual IPO, then I would not charge for listing on the exchange.
Makes a good incentive to IPO launcher to have on your exchange which means more business.
I would probably charge a sellers commision of 1% just like tax in Eve. This would add up if it became a popular way to trade like the Eve markets, and make it cheap to trade. Volume is key
Kind of the same lines we were thinking then - having virtualized shares completely free, while normal IPOs have a 1% of marcap listing fee and a 0.1%-0.5% commission on buy and sell orders - 1% is too high (consider trades are usually multibillion ISK transactions)... and as you said, volume (and by extension, volatility) is key.
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