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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Arctur Ceti
Originally by: Bellum Eternus I'll adapt and inflict pain and misery on carebears regardless of what CCP does until they remove nonconsentual PVP completely.
That's your problem right there. This isn't the game you think it is.
This is EVE, the game I was told years ago that I could do almost anything I wanted. Well that's getting harder and harder nowadays.
I don't know what to make of the web nerf tbh. Lowsec gate camping is gonna be extremely difficult to stop a ship MWDing back to the gate. Infact it will be next to impossible to stop if they are prepared. But this might be a blessing forcing people to actually do some real PVP as I'm utterly bored of gate camping trying to find some PVP.
Also - I agree totally that this game is going the way of the carebear and anyone who can't see it is probably a carebear.
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shintai
Quote: Rigs are introduced: peak tank DPS and static HP skyrocket, peak speeds go insane, peak DPS remain static. More targets escape destruction.
How about you just fit some gun/missile rigs then...
For web..targets will MWD? How..with the scrambled MWD that doesnt work?
Go back and study on your homework. You have plenty of other flaws aswell.
unplug your keyboard
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Furb Killer misc. crap...
Debating stuff with people like yourself is impossible, but I'll try.
Example: just the other day I killed a Myrmidon with my Sentinel. Why? Because I like testing the limits of what I can do in PVP. My goal is to kill a BS with it eventually, if I can find one that will hold still long enough, and that *isn't on a gate or a station so that I can engage it with a =frig=*.
99.99% of my kills are at a gate or station because I have to force fights. Not with carebear mission runners, but with all the 'hardcore PVPers' out there 'looking for fights'. 99% of the people I run into that are pvp equipped are looking to kill someone 12 on 1, not actually get into a fight. *Today* in fact I sat on the otherside of a highsec gate in lowsec with four people in my gang waiting for a twelve person gang to jump in and attack. They didn't.
Their excuse when I asked them why they didn't engage? 'We were waiting for you to jump into us'. I'm a pirate. I'm -10. They're in high sec. They know all of this. TBH it's crap like this that is making a lot of pirates rat their sec back up so that they can war dec people like that and bring the fight to them regardless of system security. But I hear that's being nerfed too. 
Again, the point of my post was this: be warned PVPers, regardless of how you choose to PVP, your PVP is going to be increasingly limited as to where when and how you can fight, with the target having more and more of a say in how that happens.
And you're telling me that I'm *wrong*? *SHOW* me why that above statement is just flat out wrong. Please. Show me one thing that CCP has done to -increase- the ability for people to attack other people. *Increase* offensive oriented combat. *Increase* the opportunities to kill people (in the game, lol?).
I'm very interested to hear your examples.
I've got so many examples of this it's saddening. Such as jumping in on 0.0 gate camps which just warp off if they dont have capital support even though they outnumber us 4:1
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer And i got a long list of examples of pirates gatecamping and running to station when an enemy fleet comes in same region as they are.
Or the pirates station camping with carriers that are further inside the station than the average nyx can fly into a caldari station.
real pirates don't run unless they know they are gonna die. they search for the fight that they may win or lose - as long as it is a good fight. Now we actually have videos proving my examples, how about you? Cus I would love to see a bunch of pirates warping off because an enemy fleet is in the same region, I need a good laugh.
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Furb Killer
Or the pirates station camping with carriers that are further inside the station than the average nyx can fly into a caldari station.
Use a nano macherial and bump the enemy off station.... oh wait...... its getting gimpnerfed
SKUNK
Don't worry, I remember the Typhoo...ohwait nosry
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 11/08/2008 11:52:26 Where exactly do i argue from blob point of view? And how exactly dont i do solo pvp?
And i am sure i can find somewhere a vid of pirates running when a fleet comes in same system (you realise that is pretty hard to put in a vid?), then you just tell they arent real pirates. Maybe we should first define what real pirates are. And what are those who only fight when they are 100% sure they win and prefer to target industrials and rookie ships when they arent pirates?
Sure i see those carriers being bumped by nano machs all the time. Oh wait actually i have never seen them being bumped off...
oh yeah we kill industrials as well but for reasons like 2 days ago we killed a t1 unscouted hauler that jumped into lowsec carrying 1.6 billion in mods. I didn't say we ONLY look for fair fights but I sure as hell would like more of them. I only kill helpless targets to try and make a tiny bit of the isk back that I lose when I die.
Also, you said that pirates running were from your own experience not some random video.
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: drendell im a pve or care bears as most people call us i cant wait to get out to 0.0 and have to keep watch at all times for pvpers its unfortunate that pvp is seems to be dieing out, even though im a miner and hauler i like the thrill of knowing that this trip could end up with me being held for ransom.
so to all you pvpers out there stick to it i hope that ccp will start making your life's better soon, and anyway im trying to move out to low sec that should give you one more target.
You're gonna be sorely dissapointed.
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Call'Da Poleece
Originally by: Lorz0r 2 days ago we killed a t1 unscouted hauler that jumped into lowsec carrying 1.6 billion in mods
Killmail or it didnt happen
http://kb.killer-koalas.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3763
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Lorz0r
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Posted - 2008.08.11 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Call'Da Poleece
Originally by: Lorz0r
Originally by: Call'Da Poleece
Originally by: Lorz0r 2 days ago we killed a t1 unscouted hauler that jumped into lowsec carrying 1.6 billion in mods
Killmail or it didnt happen
http://kb.killer-koalas.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3763
when people say 'we' they usually mean a group with your participation or maybe a group of your corp mates... this wouldnt appear to be either. Or maybe you mean 'we' = pirates?
and ffs, hydra, what are they like? I have never seen such muppets
Although we aren't an alliance, we are allied corps and we all camp the same lowsec areas, we just didnt happen to be in the same fleet at the time.
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