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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.08.12 04:00:00 -
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Fitting out a ship can be a time-consuming activity. The idea I will proposal in this thread aims to reduce this wasted time.
Preamble:
We've all been there - fitting out a ship. Some of us fit out dozens of ships in advance; for our own stockpiles, for our corporate stockpiles, for our alliance...etc.
Many a time you may have a standard setup, which you will use again and again. Why not be able to 'save' this fitting as an 'instruction sheet'?
Now, imagine this....
You have an unfitted ship, with all the modules you need to attach to it - simply activate your prepared instruction sheet on it and it puts itself together! You're now ready to go. At present, fitting out a ship (sometimes trawling for the right modules in your hangar) can take 1-5 minutes, or longer. Now, the time saved is much higher if you are fitting out standard issue ships en masse (I'm sure many organisations do this).
I would imagine that to do this would have a drawback - a small fee to the station crew who're fitting your mods for you. This may also be a source of income for station owners, while also functioning as a mild isk sink of the lazy!
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.08.12 04:00:00 -
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Naturally, I support my idea 
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.12 04:04:00 -
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CCP will probably scream at the number of database operations you're proposing, but it's a good idea. Even a "Fit as copy of current ship" option would be very nice. I wouldn't use it much on TQ, but on Sisi, where I burn ships like it's going out of style, it'd be a lifesaver even for a fairly low-energy player like me. For corps photocopying huge numbers of ships, this would be a big time saver.
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.08.12 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Eternal Error on 12/08/2008 04:36:59
It'd be nice but I have a suspicion it would **** the database. Supported, but I don't think it's realistic.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.12 08:22:00 -
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Why'd this be stressful on the database? It's simply automating what players already do. Only extra is that you store a list of setups somewhere.
I for one would love this idea as some ships I fly have two module setups for different purposes (solo/support for example).
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Grainjer
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Posted - 2008.08.12 13:59:00 -
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Support. 'Fit templates' are an obvious way to manage modules.
(And batching DB updates instead of lots of small changes should be a GOOD thing)
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:09:00 -
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Lia Gaeren
Pole Dancing Vixens
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:30:00 -
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Would be really handy as well when moving base of operations... having to strip ships down to package for the freighter and then having to spend half an hour at the other end sorting out all the mods = a pain.
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Trojanman190
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:38:00 -
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Grann Thefauto
Running with Knives
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Posted - 2008.08.12 20:46:00 -
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Yeah saved ship preset fits maybe would work.
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Resaec Fitsuga
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:04:00 -
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Support
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Rostran Targo
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:12:00 -
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supported
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: J Kunjeh on 12/08/2008 22:16:50
Edit: I misunderstood the OP. Though, I'm still not sure I support it.
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LaFond
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.08.12 23:05:00 -
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Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.12 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Neesa Corrinne on 12/08/2008 23:47:57
There was a while there where I was going through vagabonds and hurricanes like running water.
Naturally I support this.
edit: I played Planetside for a couple of years, and you could have several different layouts for your gear. You just walked up to a terminal and picked out whatever layout you wanted. It was quite convenient.
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isAzmodeus
Low Security Military Excursions
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Posted - 2008.08.13 00:02:00 -
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Signed
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TimGascoigne
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Posted - 2008.08.13 15:00:00 -
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"Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on"
for this one yes 
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Trent Nichols
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.13 17:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Why'd this be stressful on the database? It's simply automating what players already do. Only extra is that you store a list of setups somewhere.
This. If the fitting templates were just stored client side, this would be nothing more than an automation of dragging each module to its intended slot. No extra work for the server and as a bonus, corp/alliance mates could send ship setups to each other as easily as sending eve mail.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.13 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Trent Nichols
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Why'd this be stressful on the database? It's simply automating what players already do. Only extra is that you store a list of setups somewhere.
This. If the fitting templates were just stored client side, this would be nothing more than an automation of dragging each module to its intended slot. No extra work for the server and as a bonus, corp/alliance mates could send ship setups to each other as easily as sending eve mail.
The reason why I suggested CCP would complain about server load is that it was their response to my "Change all ammo at once" thread that the CSM brought forward. CCPs response was essentially (in part), "If we make ammo-switching easier, people will do it more often. Since ammo switching is a database operation, and database operations bugger up our server, we'd like to make the UI for switching ammo difficult to dissuade people from doing it". I don't find that a particularly good rationale, but it's the one they used. I could see them making a similar argument as regards any automated method of doing a large number of database operations, is all I'm saying.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.08.14 17:32:00 -
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Bah this proposal needs more visibility, it is approvable!
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Yon Andon
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Posted - 2008.08.14 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Yon Andon on 14/08/2008 21:55:42
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The fittings could be saved on the client just like the overview settings are if server load is a problem.
Ought to be exportable/importable as well so saving on clients won't be an issue, people would soon find web sources with tons of stored fitting files. This would also enable EFT to integrate with this, fit in EFT then import then load, huge usability improvement :)
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Elhina Novae
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.08.14 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Yon Andon
Edited by: Yon Andon on 14/08/2008 21:55:42
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The fittings could be saved on the client just like the overview settings are if server load is a problem.
Ought to be exportable/importable as well so saving on clients won't be an issue, people would soon find web sources with tons of stored fitting files. This would also enable EFT to integrate with this, fit in EFT then import then load, huge usability improvement :)
Might be hard with EFT, but what about this:
I fit out my ship, click this button called lets say "Export fittings" and it will be saved on your own, client, on your computer.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.15 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Elhina Novae
Might be hard with EFT, but what about this:
I fit out my ship, click this button called lets say "Export fittings" and it will be saved on your own, client, on your computer.
Yeah, stick the fits in an easily accessible format(.txt should be sufficient, since each module has a unique name), and have it load them from a subdirectory of your your Eve directory. It'll get included in the next EFT release, I'm sure. This is a very good idea.
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fishblades
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.15 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: fishblades on 15/08/2008 01:27:55
Edited by: fishblades on 15/08/2008 01:26:54
I like this idea but I think it might be better implemented as part of the manufacturing tab.
You can set it up just like a blueprint run. Use the instruction sheet as a blueprint, punch in how many runs/ships you want to fit and it removes the items from your hangar and starts the job like any other one. I think in order for balance doing it this way would actually take longer than if you did it manually but it frees up that pilot to be doing other things. It also seems like doing it this way would lessen the server load.
After all we are supposed to be super rich pod pilots, I shouldn't have to fit my own ship I have people to do that for me. 
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Fahtim Meidires
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.15 02:17:00 -
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Storing these client-side sounds like a good solution, especially if it allows EFT to utilize the files.
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Kandarus
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Posted - 2008.08.15 04:18:00 -
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Yes Please ...
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Malcanis
We are Legend
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 05:11:00 -
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Fantastic idea.
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Luh Windan
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:04:00 -
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Yep - even better for those of us with rubbish memories who have to figure out their fit all over again each time....
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Sophia Esperanza
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:44:00 -
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Yesss!
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Brutuus Mortuus
Golden Harvest UniCorp
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:29:00 -
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/signed |
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