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masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 01:55:00 - [1] You know what really grinds my gears? The mega nerf bat that is smacking everything in the game! CCP, your game is perfect as it is, no need to make any nerfs. You should be focusing effort on adding more variety to the game. A few groups of people (small minorities i think not) who are being hurt and irritated by your nerf bat. The Minmattar Race Pirates Gankers Interceptors Speed Tankers People who fear change Faction wars players Here is who is being benefited Miners Mission Runners and thats it. ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.08.13 01:59:00 - [2] The Minmattar Race -> the who ? Pirates -> 3% Gankers -> 7% Interceptors -> hard to say Speed Tankers -> 5% maybe People who fear change -> unknown but don't care Faction wars players -> under 10% Here is who is being benefited Miners -> 20% Mission Runners -> 65% and thats it. ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? 85% > (generously) 30% (yeah, some overlap) OMG you got the perfect counter-argument to your argument _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 01:59:00 - [3] if everyone in eve wasnt a complete carebear.........
Banana Torres Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:00:00 - [4] Gawd, you are really useless at this posting lark. The Caldary faction war players were one of the most vocal groups in favour of the speed nerf. And should you not add "people who like change" to the list of those who benefit. Or just stop posting, till you learn how to.
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:01:00 - [5] Originally by: masternerdguy if everyone in eve wasnt a complete carebear......... Idiots like you would have nothing to do. ________________________ Lord WarATron: "To do the Abaddon Hadoken, you need to do the following manover with the joypad. ↓ .... ↓→ .... → + ●
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:02:00 - [6] im writing a content delivery system to make getting open source games on ur hardrive easier than ever, i have something to do. I am just voicing my concerns.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:04:00 - [7] Originally by: masternerdguy and thats it. ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? Spock! Noooo!!! moast touching moment in sci-fi movie history evah inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:05:00 - [8] And when pirates get boosted with the introduction of HICs and interceptors get boostd with role bonuses, do you just forget those or are you a DUMB TROLL. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:05:00 - [9] .....
Dirtball PinK TacO Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:06:00 - [10] Yeah but fighters are getting a hugggge boost cause now only a few select ships can outrun the fighters. So now more people can train for carriers cause cap ship pvp is the greatest part of eve.
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:07:00 - [11] yes but when eve becomes wow in space pvp skills wont matter.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Vaal Erit and interceptors get boostd with role bonuses If the changes as stated make it to tq then intys got reamed so hard they will need to stuff a box of kotex up their arse just to stem the massive hemmoraging. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Vaal Erit and interceptors get boostd with role bonuses If the changes as stated make it to tq then intys got reamed so hard they will need to stuff a box of kotex up their arse just to stem the massive hemmoraging. yep this is the first step down the slippery slope
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:13:00 - [14] Originally by: masternerdguy Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Vaal Erit and interceptors get boostd with role bonuses If the changes as stated make it to tq then intys got reamed so hard they will need to stuff a box of kotex up their arse just to stem the massive hemmoraging. yep this is the first step down the slippery slope That was a pretty disgusting visual. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:14:00 - [15] Edited by: masternerdguy on 13/08/2008 02:14:45 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: masternerdguy Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Vaal Erit and interceptors get boostd with role bonuses If the changes as stated make it to tq then intys got reamed so hard they will need to stuff a box of kotex up their arse just to stem the massive hemmoraging. yep this is the first step down the slippery slope That was a pretty disgusting visual. well this is what i mean, one small change could push eve down the slope of the carebear forever
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:20:00 - [16] Well this is what we are telling you. This is speed nerf #3 that I can recall, and god knows what total nerf number this equates to if you must refer to every change CCP makes as a nerf. EVE has yet to fail, so shush. ________________________
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:22:00 - [17] yet
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:25:00 - [18] Originally by: masternerdguy yet Ha! inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Grarr Dexx Amarr Avenging United	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:27:00 - [19] Originally by: masternerdguy You know what really grinds my gears? The mega nerf bat that is smacking everything in the game! CCP, your game is perfect as it is, no need to make any nerfs. You should be focusing effort on adding more variety to the game. A few groups of people (small minorities i think not) who are being hurt and irritated by your nerf bat. The Minmattar Race Pirates Gankers Interceptors Speed Tankers People who fear change Faction wars players Here is who is being benefited Miners Mission Runners and thats it. ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? bolded the funny part
Theo Samaritan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Originally by: masternerdguy You know what really grinds my gears? The mega nerf bat that is smacking everything in the game! CCP, your game is perfect as it is, no need to make any nerfs. You should be focusing effort on adding more variety to the game. A few groups of people (small minorities i think not) who are being hurt and irritated by your nerf bat. The Minmattar Race Pirates Gankers Interceptors Speed Tankers People who fear change Faction wars players Here is who is being benefited Miners Mission Runners and thats it. ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? bolded the funny part +1 EVE's ________________________
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.13 02:48:00 - [21] Quote: ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? Yes, which is why the proposed nerfs are going foreward.
Thorradin State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.08.13 03:16:00 - [22] I like how people cry nerf at everything. I think this is more of a fix to the speed they broken when 'fixing' mods and adding rigs, all while leaving tons of mods with various similar effects completely unphased by stacking penalties. People who think agility + mass reduction + speed increases, which all add to the omfgspeed issue, not being somehow limited by each other, isn't a balance issue, need to come up for some air. Personally I'd have liked to see the three have a stacking penalty sharing of some sort, leave everything else as-is maybe, and just make the 3 stack against each other. You'd then get uber speed, uber agility, or uber mass reduction, or you'd mix and match.
Dragossin	Posted - 2008.08.13 03:38:00 - [23] Originally by: Akita T The Minmattar Race -> the who ? Pirates -> 3% Gankers -> 7% Interceptors -> hard to say Speed Tankers -> 5% maybe People who fear change -> unknown but don't care Faction wars players -> under 10% Here is who is being benefited Miners -> 20% Mission Runners -> 65% and thats it. ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? 85% > (generously) 30% (yeah, some overlap) OMG you got the perfect counter-argument to your argument What about the minmatar pirate gankers, that fly speed tanked interceptors, and mine or run missions when they don't take part in factional warfare? Those might fear changes too.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.08.13 03:49:00 - [24] Edited by: Le Skunk on 13/08/2008 03:51:55 Edited by: Le Skunk on 13/08/2008 03:50:33 Originally by: Vaal Erit And when pirates get boosted with the introduction of HICs and interceptors get boostd with role bonuses, do you just forget those or are you a DUMB TROLL. Pirates never asked for hics. Or complained about not having an infinite point. What was asked for was some way to tackle the invulnerable Motherships thats were untacklable in low sec. And so were jumped in willy nilly when ever any one felt like it with no support. What was given was an infinite point (not asked for) an a bubble dropper (useless in low sec where pirates reside). Also to be noted is the fact that HICs equaly benefited the 0.0 alliances, a group CCP has traditionally pandered to almost as much as the bears. Now dont get me wrong , I like the ships a lot - but a lachesis could tackle as well as a hic, it just needed a little support from a gang. This is as it should be. Pirates were in no way asking for a boost - compare this to the pages and pages and pages of whines pumped out daily by the more carebear minded characters crying out for CCP to save them. SKUNK
Steve Hawkings	Posted - 2008.08.13 03:54:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T The Minmattar Race -> the who ? Pirates -> 3% Gankers -> 7% Interceptors -> hard to say Speed Tankers -> 5% maybe People who fear change -> unknown but don't care Faction wars players -> under 10% Here is who is being benefited Miners -> 20% Mission Runners -> 65% and thats it. ccp, dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? 85% > (generously) 30% (yeah, some overlap) OMG you got the perfect counter-argument to your argument proof needed pls troll.
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 22:57:00 - [26] ok, what do hics have to do with this?
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.13 23:02:00 - [27] Originally by: masternerdguy well this is what i mean, one small change could push eve down the slope of the carebear forever Like the last nano nerf? Or the duel MWD nerf? Or the last time they boosted CONCORD? Or the time before that? Why did those past changes not push EVE down into the steep, slippery ~~asshole~~ slope of carebearism, but this one will? ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.13 23:04:00 - [28] Originally by: Le Skunk Pirates never asked for hics. Or complained about not having an infinite point. No, but pirates did whine a lot about blockade runners being immune to gatecamps. And they whined about WTZ as well. They whined the last time CONCORD was boosted. Quote: Pirates were in no way asking for a boost - compare this to the pages and pages and pages of whines pumped out daily by the more carebear minded characters crying out for CCP to save them. LOL, are you seriously suggesting that pirates don't want a boost and haven't asked for one recently? Because this really just isn't true. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.13 23:44:00 - [29] well ccp needs to think beyond the nanowhine.
Komen Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 03:59:00 - [30] Speaking as someone who runs missions, flies interceptors, and does occasionally gank...and even used to mine, but I gave that up... Shrug. Eve has changed before. Eve will still exist, after the speed changes. I plan to be here after. But then again, for the sake of transparency, I don't fly any nano-ships - I depend on more traditional forms of tanking. Suppose if my favorite toys were being reduced in effectiveness, I'd be more upset. Wait...wait. Warp disruptors are going to disable MWD? swearing and cursing

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