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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:29:00 -
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Okies.
So we have had war declared on us. And for the first night, it was fantastic, loads of large engagements, a real feeling of a struggle. Hard fought and energy zapping.
Then last 2 days......
Nothing, no forces, no large scale battles. 18 PA bs last night sat in UMI KK waiting for the 28 hostiles next door to jump through, did they?? no they retreated back down to ECP. Why? god knows. We would of been forced to flee if they had jumped, but we were determined to at least give it a try.
So this war has been reduced to you camping a few key areas until we move you on, ganking lone pilots from the pa if they dont heed warnings in PA Chat and fall into your "traps". Whilst we actively hunt you down, and inflict far heavier losses. Like I thought you declared war on us?
All that talk, all that bravado, and it all comes down to the same old same old. Gank some loners, run n hide if a force anywher near the size of yours turns up. (they even run from smaller forces  )
Well we all know the numbers of losses, I just wander how long you can continue, or even how long most of the corps whos hearts are not really in it will want to continue, as we keep taking you down with such a bad ratio of deaths n kills for your forces.
If you want tto fight, you know where we are, although no doubt we will come down later and smash your "blockades" as usual. You guys have ths safe spot partying sorted right out 
(whilst I know its kinda imflamatory, its also a little tongue in cheek, just wanna hear the mighty military reasoning)
ps, maybe see youguys tonight? :P
Moved to corp forum - Orestes
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:35:00 -
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You're whining because we won't fight your fight? 
Here's a few quotes from the master himself:
To refrain from intercepting an enemy whose banners are in perfect order, to refrain from attacking an army drawn up in calm and confident array:--this is the art of studying circumstances.
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans; the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces; the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field; and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:38:00 -
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Nothing wrong with staying logged in and make your enemy sweat while you take a nap and watch a 'reel.
Convert Stations
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:38:00 -
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Mods:
You said you would monitor the PA/RKK war.
Here's a nice one for you to start with.
We conduct the war we want to conduct.
Flaming us in forums won't change our style of fighting.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:38:00 -
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Power To the forum warriors!!! this game should be played on the forums the number of people that ***** or "brag" on here.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:40:00 -
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If you wanna fight blobwars I think there are a couple of takers for that down south.
You still see this as being two lines of cavalry lining up against each other and yelling charge?
Ask the polish how that worked out in 2nd world war (I hate to give a RL example but I think that one is pretty on top of things).
Think attrition warfare. Many small skirmishes, not a couple gigantic battles.
If the EVE engine supported it I would be thrilled to take part in the massive battles... but since it's about who sees things on his scanner and who doesn't, whose modules activate and whose doesn't... it's not very fun is it.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
um... not to throw a monkey into your wrenching, but the selfsame master you quote notes that to control is preferable to fighting, indeed the fighting will only occur if you have failed to control.
of course, succeeding would be horribly boring 
ps logistics > tactics
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Hakera
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:50:00 -
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I think this war is special because it has all the biggest forum *****s gathered together (on either side - but mostly the (JF/RKK/MLMM/EV vs PA) throwing mud at each other as they re-hash the same debate again & again & again & again & again & again in an effort to justify your actions (in a new therad every time).....
None of you are going to convince the other that they are wrong. You each have your veiwpoints and have decided to let your guns do the talking.
This type of war can never be won, but at least everyone should have fun.
I hope you guys hug after this is over, it seems the ghost that is the VA/NVA has come back to haunt Eve (or some people wont let it die...)
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 13:56:00 -
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War in any format we would of loved, you nothing more than abunch of annoying pirates right now. Whilst gratz on "all" your kills How yu ever expect to make any sort of change with these tactics is wayyyy beyond me.
;)
Cya tonight.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |
MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:00:00 -
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Isn't General Discussion the wrong forum for this kind of smacktalk ?
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:07:00 -
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yeah posted it in wrong place. Move to Corp HQ pwease :)
And its not smack talk, its open discussion
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |
Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:48:00 -
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Ed,
Isn't it early to be drunk and in the wrong forum?
Wait..crap it's four in the afternoon there. Plenty late enough. Nevermind carry on and save some for InkZ.
Nothing but love to R-K and OOC.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:56:00 -
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for someone with the nickname aldof eddz it suprises me you care about war
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I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.06.03 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 03/06/2004 15:28:43
Well if u form 100+ ship blobs dont expect people to jump into them.
We also came in intercept the r-k forces who were in cod space but you guys head off intop branch, it would have been a pretty even match...
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:00:00 -
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Movin' to corp forum, hang on.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
Why should we tell you our tactics and what we expect from it?
Let us fight our way, you fight you way, and we'll see who 'wins' in the end...
Unfortunatly, there is no winner, and no looser in this game. Take CA for example they have been getting attacked for months and months, taking loss after loss, inflicting them too of course. But yet they still stand... Look at SA Duke Drocklar came onto the forums and claimed that SA were dead... yet SA/CA stil have some huge impressive fleet battles... SA still stand...
Basically unless everyone in the alliances will always be in said alliance until they all fall out with each other and move on. Thats about the gist of it really tbh. All you can hope to achieve is obtain/maintain a better kill/loss ratio and hurting lone idiots with ganks is prolly the best way to do it.
Sass
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Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Liz Bathory on 03/06/2004 16:13:23
to actually win this war.. ganking anyone we can, and avoiding fleet battles is ideal...
I'd love to see 10 strong packs of frigs and interceptors roaming through venal, tenal and branch
simply put.. if we stay out of their grasp, and kill anything small enough to crush quick
then it will turn into something a lot like what hapened to america in veitnam
sure, america had the power to flatten them a dozen times over, and a dozen times again
but they couldn't apply it.. so their morale was broken, and they gave up the fight
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:27:00 -
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"oh we fight the war on our terms" lark.
Your losing a lot of ships on your terms, i think he was asking why fight in such a manner, as it's clearly not benifiting you in kill/loss ratio.
Bore tactics? Real lame if so.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:36:00 -
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oh I see...
Just to put a 10x opposite spin on your propaganda. Yesterday EV and crew numbering 28 pilots offered battle to 80, yes EIGHTY PA pilots sitting in HPA. Guess what, they didnt wanna fight. We got bored and went back to Tribute.
anyhow, as you determine who you fight, we determine who we fight. If you do not like it, oh well.
Enough with the whining and get it on in game.
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Shariona
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Okies.
So we have had war declared on us. And for the first night, it was fantastic, loads of large engagements, a real feeling of a struggle. Hard fought and energy zapping.
Then last 2 days......
Nothing, no forces, no large scale battles. 18 PA bs last night sat in UMI KK waiting for the 28 hostiles next door to jump through, did they?? no they retreated back down to ECP. Why? god knows. We would of been forced to flee if they had jumped, but we were determined to at least give it a try.
So this war has been reduced to you camping a few key areas until we move you on, ganking lone pilots from the pa if they dont heed warnings in PA Chat and fall into your "traps". Whilst we actively hunt you down, and inflict far heavier losses. Like I thought you declared war on us?
All that talk, all that bravado, and it all comes down to the same old same old. Gank some loners, run n hide if a force anywher near the size of yours turns up. (they even run from smaller forces )
Well we all know the numbers of losses, I just wander how long you can continue, or even how long most of the corps whos hearts are not really in it will want to continue, as we keep taking you down with such a bad ratio of deaths n kills for your forces.
If you want tto fight, you know where we are, although no doubt we will come down later and smash your "blockades" as usual. You guys have ths safe spot partying sorted right out
(whilst I know its kinda imflamatory, its also a little tongue in cheek, just wanna hear the mighty military reasoning)
ps, maybe see youguys tonight? :P
Moved to corp forum - Orestes
Yes War is fun
Have fun
If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him -- Sun Tzu
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
um... not to throw a monkey into your wrenching, but the selfsame master you quote notes that to control is preferable to fighting, indeed the fighting will only occur if you have failed to control.
of course, succeeding would be horribly boring
ps logistics > tactics
You can't control 80 ships moving through space in Eve, BH, unless you have 80 ships too. Therein lies the boredom like you said.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn
oh I see...
Just to put a 10x opposite spin on your propaganda. Yesterday EV and crew numbering 28 pilots offered battle to 80, yes EIGHTY PA pilots sitting in HPA. Guess what, they didnt wanna fight. We got bored and went back to Tribute.
anyhow, as you determine who you fight, we determine who we fight. If you do not like it, oh well.
Enough with the whining and get it on in game.
what he said
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:54:00 -
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to anyone who thought they could get a fight out of PA: LOL
to PA: LOL
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:17:00 -
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Yesterday Jericho Fraction went to venal and conquered the RONA KIA station.
RONA STATION TURNED INTO JERICHO JACUZZI
Now one wonders what the PA was doing while this was going on?
;)
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Gafton
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:24:00 -
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congratulations jade. You captured an unguarded cloning station in the middle of nowhere. I guess the pa is doomed. With such military might as that we have no choice but to surrender to the awesome powers of jericho.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
Azkaban is there, Robeyone is not, I the person am fighting. Lol this is stupid, Josh I thought you were above that.
http://www.ronacorp.com |
Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Yesterday Jericho Fraction went to venal and conquered the RONA KIA station.
RONA STATION TURNED INTO JERICHO JACUZZI
Now one wonders what the PA was doing while this was going on?
;)
Wow maybe we should post everytime we capture a station too.
Way to go Jade Way to brag Honestly we are all very impressed
http://www.ronacorp.com |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gafton
congratulations jade. You captured an unguarded cloning station in the middle of nowhere. I guess the pa is doomed. With such military might as that we have no choice but to surrender to the awesome powers of jericho.
As has been previously stated it is the policy of the coalition that surrender will not be discussed individually. If you want to surrender then please contact Notferr.
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Gafton
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:31:00 -
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i tried to last night jade but he was a little busy. I'll try again tonight. Unconditional surrender right? We install you as the new empress of venal and kiss your feet?
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. |
Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Gafton
congratulations jade. You captured an unguarded cloning station in the middle of nowhere. I guess the pa is doomed. With such military might as that we have no choice but to surrender to the awesome powers of jericho.
As has been previously stated it is the policy of the coalition that surrender will not be discussed individually. If you want to surrender then please contact Notferr.
Lol now that's funny. TouchÚ Jade
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:43:00 -
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I can't believe you lot are all still bickering. It's very very boring, I'd like to read about the fun stuff going on not hear more points scoring attempts from one or two individuals.
War = teh gud
Polyticks = teh ebil
Forum whoring = teh wurst
So anyone got anything entertaining to discuss?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:48:00 -
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I will no longer be on call after Saturday.
I intend to get smashed. Allies and enemies alike are invite on my TS svr, where we can kill each other in rookie ships.
I expect Blacklight, DB P, Bosie at a minimum.
Alex is not invited, as when I get drunk, I will hit on her unceaslessly.
- N -
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Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse
Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Notferr
Alex is not invited, as when I get drunk, I will hit on her unceaslessly.
- N -
 I'm not invited?
Like this sig? Check out my sig shoppe..
Zen Jakkaru - "Alexandra Belani (Most sexy terr |
The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:53:00 -
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The greatest enemy to an alliance is from within example Jade Constatine of JF and NVA. Pheonix alliance saw the threat and eliminated it and survived.
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink
The greatest enemy to an alliance is from within example Jade Constatine of JF and NVA. Pheonix alliance saw the threat and eliminated it and survived.
well said
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Shar Gath on 03/06/2004 18:01:24
Edited by: Shar Gath on 03/06/2004 17:59:33
Edited by: Shar Gath on 03/06/2004 17:58:53
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 03/06/2004 18:17:29
Originally by: Robeyone
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
Azkaban is there, Robeyone is not, I the person am fighting. Lol this is stupid, Josh I thought you were above that.
I was talking about Halseth, Robeyone, but the same applies - don't whine about us not fighting when you clearly don't turn up to fight.
Edit: Removed a bit of flaming.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Mods:
You said you would monitor the PA/RKK war.
Here's a nice one for you to start with.
We conduct the war we want to conduct.
Flaming us in forums won't change our style of fighting.
dbp
no its not like you and your celes cronies dont to it to curse all the friggen time. you guys are the biggest hypocrites in the eve universe.
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Gafton
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:16:00 -
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It's not hypocracy, it's double standards.
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. |
Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: DB Preacher
Mods:
You said you would monitor the PA/RKK war.
Here's a nice one for you to start with.
We conduct the war we want to conduct.
Flaming us in forums won't change our style of fighting.
dbp
no its not like you and your celes cronies dont to it to curse all the friggen time. you guys are the biggest hypocrites in the eve universe.
No that's you and the rest of the C4...erm...CA...erm no wait ah whatever.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:25:00 -
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It's the same no matter who is posting, guys:
If you gank someone, you get accused of being unskilled gank-merchants.
If you refuse to engage a numerically-superior enemy, you get called a coward.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and get wtfpwned, you get called a stupid n00b.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and wtfpwn them, you get called exploiters.
This is the story of pvp in Eve and everyone lived happily every after (but a bit burnt around the edges).
Just remember that when you consider flaming someone for something**
Kill eve-mails wouldn't stop any of this happening, to be honest, but they'd be nice*
*Shameless plug.
**I'll be taking my own advice.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:30:00 -
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I have a full time job.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Okies.
So we have had war declared on us. And for the first night, it was fantastic, loads of large engagements, a real feeling of a struggle. Hard fought and energy zapping.
Then last 2 days......
Nothing, no forces, no large scale battles. 18 PA bs last night sat in UMI KK waiting for the 28 hostiles next door to jump through, did they?? no they retreated back down to ECP. Why? god knows. We would of been forced to flee if they had jumped, but we were determined to at least give it a try.
So this war has been reduced to you camping a few key areas until we move you on, ganking lone pilots from the pa if they dont heed warnings in PA Chat and fall into your "traps". Whilst we actively hunt you down, and inflict far heavier losses. Like I thought you declared war on us?
All that talk, all that bravado, and it all comes down to the same old same old. Gank some loners, run n hide if a force anywher near the size of yours turns up. (they even run from smaller forces )
Well we all know the numbers of losses, I just wander how long you can continue, or even how long most of the corps whos hearts are not really in it will want to continue, as we keep taking you down with such a bad ratio of deaths n kills for your forces.
If you want tto fight, you know where we are, although no doubt we will come down later and smash your "blockades" as usual. You guys have ths safe spot partying sorted right out
(whilst I know its kinda imflamatory, its also a little tongue in cheek, just wanna hear the mighty military reasoning)
ps, maybe see youguys tonight? :P
Moved to corp forum - Orestes
To the mighty pilots of RONA-KIA, heres a few points i'd like to make
1) The fighting on day 1 of the war, yes was lots of big engagments, and lots of kills, etc etc, but how can you then come on and question what we continue to do from there? because we didn't do the same things each night makes us a bad military force?
The simple lets blob each other and fight is kinda lame, even with even numbers. Not because either side is more skilled or exerienced, but the defender in eve has the tactical advantage at this stage of the game. (Note i'm basing this on equal numbers right now) NAST is the attacking force, PA are the defenders, with you having the advantage to start with, we have no alternative but to look for effective ways to strike you. You think if you blob 100 people in 1 system, and wait for us to jump in is gonna help you win the war? we might like to fight, but were not suicidal. This in my eyes this is not controlling a situation either, it's merley a waste of your time whilst giving us more time to gather forces, plan offences, and move people deeper into your teritory.
War is not all about how many kills each side have, it's about moral, commitment, beleifs, trust, communication, publicity, and propoganda.
I'm not trying to cause a flame war, nor am i questioning your intelligence, i'm merley stating the views i have, and maybe it will help you understand whats going on. Someone else made a statment about boring the enemy = Lame?! Please explain this, as i see boring the enemy is a tactic used to reduce moral, and comitment from people. If that reduces the number of enemy forces, i would consider it a viable option.
Look deeper into things, and hopefully you'll see the light. I want to fight a fun war, i want each side to show respect, and none of the usuall smack fests that occur. Lets all have some fun, quit the ****, stop the "why arn't you fighting, why are you doing this" did you see churchill asking ****** "why?" every other day? no they juts got on with it
Frakri Out
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.06.03 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Koda on 03/06/2004 18:39:44
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Kill eve-mails wouldn't stop any of this happening, to be honest, but they'd be nice*
Too true.
Posting of kill mail would go down in a firestorm of "LIE LIE EDIT EDIT!!"
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's the same no matter who is posting, guys:
If you gank someone, you get accused of being unskilled gank-merchants.
If you refuse to engage a numerically-superior enemy, you get called a coward.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and get wtfpwned, you get called a stupid n00b.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and wtfpwn them, you get called exploiters.
This is the story of pvp in Eve and everyone lived happily every after (but a bit burnt around the edges).
Just remember that when you consider flaming someone for something**
Kill eve-mails wouldn't stop any of this happening, to be honest, but they'd be nice*
*Shameless plug.
**I'll be taking my own advice.
Josh, CA has grown up since then... You need to add:
If You wont fight the pointless and iritating frigate swarms you get called weak n00bs.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 20:09:00 -
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Yes, well, I was trying to keep my post flame-free Bared...
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.06.03 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: pleadingly by Rodney King
Can't we all just get along?
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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crice
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Posted - 2004.06.03 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 03/06/2004 20:31:50
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's the same no matter who is posting, guys:
If you gank someone, you get accused of being unskilled gank-merchants.
If you refuse to engage a numerically-superior enemy, you get called a coward.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and get wtfpwned, you get called a stupid n00b.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and wtfpwn them, you get called exploiters.
This is the story of pvp in Eve and everyone lived happily every after (but a bit burnt around the edges).
Just remember that when you consider flaming someone for something**
Kill eve-mails wouldn't stop any of this happening, to be honest, but they'd be nice*
*Shameless plug.
**I'll be taking my own advice.
Josh, CA has grown up since then... You need to add:
If You wont fight the pointless and iritating frigate swarms you get called weak n00bs.
[ 2004.05.23 19:14:18 ] Maud Dib > Sure Mojo I can understand that. What I think p1sses people off is to have seen all the crap CA said about EV and have a lot of it turn out to be true
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Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.06.03 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: crice
Edited by: crice on 03/06/2004 20:31:50
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's the same no matter who is posting, guys:
If you gank someone, you get accused of being unskilled gank-merchants.
If you refuse to engage a numerically-superior enemy, you get called a coward.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and get wtfpwned, you get called a stupid n00b.
If you engage a numerically-superior enemy and wtfpwn them, you get called exploiters.
This is the story of pvp in Eve and everyone lived happily every after (but a bit burnt around the edges).
Just remember that when you consider flaming someone for something**
Kill eve-mails wouldn't stop any of this happening, to be honest, but they'd be nice*
*Shameless plug.
**I'll be taking my own advice.
Josh, CA has grown up since then... You need to add:
If You wont fight the pointless and iritating frigate swarms you get called weak n00bs.
[ 2004.05.23 19:14:18 ] Maud Dib > Sure Mojo I can understand that. What I think p1sses people off is to have seen all the crap CA said about EV and have a lot of it turn out to be true
you just broke my heart 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 20:40:00 -
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You have a heart, Jebba?
WTF?
I'm sure Maud Dib is man enough to air his queries about EV to us rather than talk to cricey boy.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
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Orlando Orleans
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Posted - 2004.06.03 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
War = teh gud
Polyticks = teh ebil
Forum whoring = teh wurst
you are too correct
Blacklight = teh win
wanna play war?
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:01:00 -
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Lol @ this thread.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:08:00 -
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here lemme throw some more l337 sP34k n th3R3 4 yu.
Av01D t3h BL0b!!! iT w45t3s T1m3 & 5HiPs!!!
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Av01D t3h BL0b!!! iT w45t3s T1m3 & 5HiPs!!!
that's so true..
I think blob wars are dull and an utter waste of game time
I mean you could be somewhere else killing some other poor bastards
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 03/06/2004 21:47:34
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Yesterday Jericho Fraction went to venal and conquered the RONA KIA station.
RONA STATION TURNED INTO JERICHO JACUZZI Now one wonders what the PA was doing while this was going on?
;)
LoL
Yes, we are busy fighting, battling hard vs fleets that want our homeland, and you oh mighty, Jade!!!, are capturing an unmanned station.
Alolololol, you are really 1 in a million.
Well played.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
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Trooble
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:43:00 -
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Removed, no flaming please -Zhuge Liang
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: SlightlyMad on 03/06/2004 21:53:28
Originally by: Aerick Dawn
oh I see...
Just to put a 10x opposite spin on your propaganda. Yesterday EV and crew numbering 28 pilots offered battle to 80, yes EIGHTY PA pilots sitting in HPA. Guess what, they didnt wanna fight. We got bored and went back to Tribute.
anyhow, as you determine who you fight, we determine who we fight. If you do not like it, oh well.
Enough with the whining and get it on in game.
Actually. Taken from one who was there which you were not. They were ~20 and we were ~40. Think we grew a bit more much later but I didn't pay attention.
What was really sad to see was the amount of smack from the frustrated Everlast/MLM forces.
Our objective is to make sure Venal is safe from any major forces. I'm certinally don't care a bit if they are bored, or whatever badname is the fav flavour of the day to call the enemy. As long as Venal is free, our mission is accomplished.
I think what KIAEddz really wanted to ask was what "objective" the enemy has.. Coz.. right now, they are not doing any significant damage at all.
Deklein and Fade space get raided dayly and the BS kills are stacking up to the roof.
I can not help feeling its a bit silly. FU/CoD is paying loads for the war while those who initially started it, are ganking the odd frigate or crazy BS pilot in EC/PNE3.
Jericho doesn't die for this. Neither is RKK.
(except for that suicide attack the first day)
Those who die for the war is FU/CoD and some Norad interceptor pilot.
(As usual, my views are my own and I get smacked daily for gracing you with my views in the forum )
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-"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |
crice
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 03/06/2004 21:54:10
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
You have a heart, Jebba?
WTF?
I'm sure Maud Dib is man enough to air his queries about EV to us rather than talk to cricey boy.
Acutally that was taken form a Jericho "FACTION", site, where they post convo's. Makes for some very interesting reading when Bored.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2004.06.03 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: SlightlyMad
Jericho doesn't die for this.
That's just because I'm quick to warp my pod away.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 23:25:00 -
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7 COD battleships for no losses tonight, COD guys are getting the brunt of this, yet RKK and JF just sit their lazy asses off in EC ganking the occasional poor guy that forgets to turn his Autopilot off.
Pld tonight guys, even the smack talk was friendly :)
Nn.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 03/06/2004 23:41:00
This war belongs to Jericho and RKK, not FU and COD.
We hope at some point we can still sort out our differences and again work towards a common goal of peace in the north.
Even if at this stage you still feel that the PA has done unforgivable wrong doing, we hope you can look at the presented evidence over the past couple of days and respect our point of view, even if you don't agree with it.
I ask you to consider your postition in this war, what you wish to achieve and why.
Our door is always open for anyone who wishes to talk.
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DedGuy
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Posted - 2004.06.03 23:40:00 -
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Quote:
Actually. Taken from one who was there which you were not. They were ~20 and we were ~40. Think we grew a bit more much later but I didn't pay attention.
What was really sad to see was the amount of smack from the frustrated Everlast/MLM forces.
We were 24 or 25 I think, and you started off the night with 50 or so in local, who we were well prepared to fight if they had jumped through. Standard tactics, on any field of battle though, is that you never attack a force directly who outnumber you unless they are significantly weaker. You use hit and run maneuvers, guile, or get yourself in a position where the enemy attacks you. Which we did, or tried to do at least. Fully prepared to take on two to one odds, in 9-. Yet you never came, so we waited........and waited.......and waited, while your numbers swelled. Now after you sit in the same system, outnumbered, for an hour and a half...you get bored. And bored people start to get agitated and angry, so they start smacktalking in local.
(WELL....smacktalking in local on this occaision was the use of amusing ASCII fingers....and ducks. )
We finally decided it was apt to leave when numbers in your system had swelled to 80... and yeh that was confirmed, though we don't know how many of the 80 were prepared to fight us. Out numbered 4-1 goes beyond the reasonable.
That was a true shame really, we went to venal fully expecting to be "blobbed" by what was there, and just wanted a quick fight and a laugh, even showing up when we knew we were outnumbered.
Rumors of my clones death are greatly exaggerated. But I am still INACTIVE
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2004.06.03 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: KIAInkZ
Edited by: KIAInkZ on 03/06/2004 23:41:00
We hope at some point we can still sort out our differences and again work towards a common goal of peace in the north.
....
Our door is always open for anyone who wishes to talk.
hmm, why work for peace? with a name like KIA you would think there would be a bit more of a bloodthirst to you lot.
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>currently training to level 5: sexual tyrannosaurus / Rank 8 /
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Conman
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Posted - 2004.06.04 00:01:00 -
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LMAO YOU GET GANKED BY PA.. ADMIT IT THEY OWN YOU.. "WE WONT FIGHT ON THERE TERMS".. WALLS I SEE NO WALLS LMAO THIS IS RIDUCLOUS PA KEEP UP GOOD WORK. Tired of these peoples bantering.. well must be going btw i dont like u crazy eyed peopled lol i am insane ahaha
I am drunken irish slave hahaha i live
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.06.04 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 04/06/2004 00:04:45
Originally by: Unleashed
Originally by: KIAInkZ
Edited by: KIAInkZ on 03/06/2004 23:41:00
We hope at some point we can still sort out our differences and again work towards a common goal of peace in the north.
....
Our door is always open for anyone who wishes to talk.
hmm, why work for peace? with a name like KIA you would think there would be a bit more of a bloodthirst to you lot.
150 corps on our dislike list now, not often short of stuff to do.
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.06.04 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: SlightlyMad on 04/06/2004 00:14:50
Dead:
I wont debate your views although our recollection differs. But I give it to you, you probably kept more attention to the exact numbers than I did. I admit the 2:1 odds. Maybe even 3:1 in the end.
However, its not like anyone really bothered. Of course, we kinda want to kill you but as long as you are not any immediate threat noone will go staging attacks for massive fleetbattles. And this will continue. We see little point in this "war".
But kudos to you guys for being prepared to take on a 2:1 fleetbattle. Even with the advantage of being setup and enemy has to warp in, its something very few would try.
(you must be really horny to pull those triggers )
Maybe we grant your wish next time, who knows really
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Conman
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Posted - 2004.06.04 00:06:00 -
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No trolling please, and don't write in caps. -Zhuge Liang
I am drunken irish slave hahaha i live
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.06.04 00:15:00 -
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you forgot caps-lock on dude
A bit too late now I gues..
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-"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |
Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2004.06.04 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Fedaykin Naib on 04/06/2004 00:31:56
Originally by: Jadruts Brother
Good God there are more of u!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.04 00:58:00 -
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Sass
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Conman
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Posted - 2004.06.04 01:05:00 -
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the art of war?.. this is a game the art of war orignally written does not amply lmao.. ever read it? lol ohh well i love people that seem to know what they are talking about but really have no clue. BTW a fleet commander with a current kill to loss ratio of 4-1.. not to bad if you ask me.
I am drunken irish slave hahaha i live
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.06.04 01:09:00 -
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War is war who said war was fair. If we outnumber you and you cannot win a battle against PA why did you even bother declaring a war against us?
I am not saying it is our intention to outnumber you.
But it would be really stupid to tell our fighters to log off because we have more people.
This is like blaming someone for playing EVE.
And btw since the war started I was involved in two fights where we were clearly outnumbered.
All your whining about our blobs is really nothing but your own frustration produced by your inability to hurt us.
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.06.04 01:21:00 -
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Wow you guys stood to fight in an area where a loss might have been expected but give it a go anyway.
Celes. should take note.
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2004.06.04 01:28:00 -
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Senses this post has become infested with hijackers
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.04 01:40:00 -
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What Presidio said. I been in four battles where we were clearly outnumbered. And yea before people ask we did fight. So dont complain about our blobs when you can blob just as well.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.06.04 02:14:00 -
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I dont know where you are getting this whole RKK/JERICHO puppetmaster crap.
Did you notice the sheer amount of organizations that want a piece of you? Like it or not, that usually states something is wrong in the whole PA picture.
Just remember, CDI targetted Revol first, and we will be forever murdering your citizens for your terrorist actions.
Our Clarity of purpose...
Kill PA, for the crimes of the ones you chose to harbor rather than forsake despite your goody two shoes self appointed reputation.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.04 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Trooble
C'mon PA forum *****s, surely theres more useless spam you can post.
Whats ya kill count at now?
12,831,139 ships to no losses?
I think both sides can agree that this particular individual needs to grow a pair and post with their mains.
Wow 0.0 standings to everything after 7 months in eve.
DIE ALT DIE
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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EternalDark
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Posted - 2004.06.04 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sassinak
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
Why should we tell you our tactics and what we expect from it?
Let us fight our way, you fight you way, and we'll see who 'wins' in the end...
Unfortunatly, there is no winner, and no looser in this game. Take CA for example they have been getting attacked for months and months, taking loss after loss, inflicting them too of course. But yet they still stand... Look at SA Duke Drocklar came onto the forums and claimed that SA were dead... yet SA/CA stil have some huge impressive fleet battles... SA still stand...
Basically unless everyone in the alliances will always be in said alliance until they all fall out with each other and move on. Thats about the gist of it really tbh. All you can hope to achieve is obtain/maintain a better kill/loss ratio and hurting lone idiots with ganks is prolly the best way to do it.
And do it in frigates so they are ashamed of themselves, and have to ask thier corp mates to replace ships/mods because they got wtfPAWND by a frigate Cavalry.
Fraps is comming, Bastards are taking forever to process my footage 
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.06.04 05:26:00 -
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Guys, cut down on the smack. Especially in response to troll alts.
We're playing this in-game, and for the better part of a day these forums have been ALMOST civilized. Why ramp them back up again?
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.06.04 09:07:00 -
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Re-opened after quick clean up.
Just a reminder to all to keep the thread flame and troll free.
Alt trolls and flamers will be dealt very harshly with. It is not acceptable behaviour and we're taking it very seriously.
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Chelsea rorec
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Posted - 2004.06.04 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
You're whining because we won't fight your fight?
Here's a few quotes from the master himself:
To refrain from intercepting an enemy whose banners are in perfect order, to refrain from attacking an army drawn up in calm and confident array:--this is the art of studying circumstances.
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans; the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces; the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field; and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
hmm no what your fighting is a gorilla war, small fights because you can not get the forces to match ours.
A famous guy also said something along the lines of "if a bee and a bear fight the bee can anoy the bear alot but can never defeat the bear"
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.06.04 09:33:00 -
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Is teh laugh.
nice thread.
you guys need to put the ***** pipe down and step away!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.04 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Chelsea rorec
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
You're whining because we won't fight your fight?
Here's a few quotes from the master himself:
To refrain from intercepting an enemy whose banners are in perfect order, to refrain from attacking an army drawn up in calm and confident array:--this is the art of studying circumstances.
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans; the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces; the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field; and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
hmm no what your fighting is a gorilla war, small fights because you can not get the forces to match ours.
A famous guy also said something along the lines of "if a bee and a bear fight the bee can anoy the bear alot but can never defeat the bear"
Errrrrm.
I think UNICOR/FU/COD could easily match your numbers. We just don't want to. Blob wars are BORING.
I don't pay my Eve subscription to get involved in 100+ ship fights where you have very little control other than trying to overcome the lag and get your modules activated.
Said it before and I've said it again - I'll just bug out if its turning into 100 vs 100.
Last night was a refreshing change though - even fight (a dozen ships each side approx.) at the IPAY gate in p3e where each side a lost a BS (PA lost a cruiser too) which was pretty exciting despite nobody actually targettng me
Kudos to Mechom for one helluva tank setup - I felt like I was wasting missiles on him
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
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Posted - 2004.06.04 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: PuppetmasterX on 04/06/2004 09:41:19
We are all in this for the same reason, its fun.
Battles are fun
killing things is fun
raiding in a frig is fun
war is fun
last night was a fun battle in c4c
now stop whining and have some fun.
PMX Out
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JigJaw
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Posted - 2004.06.04 09:41:00 -
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So much attention this litlle war seem to get.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.06.04 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: JigJaw
So much attention this litlle war seem to get.
Its a pretty big war ... involving 90 odd corps total, five alliances, and several of the largest corps in Eve. I was hearing that the PA TS server had 600! people on it at one time. Thats a substantial slice of the users online if those figures are accurate.
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Quick Strike
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Posted - 2004.06.04 10:41:00 -
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need ccp need smack talk place. remeber this is game not real life .
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torqenem
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Posted - 2004.06.04 10:57:00 -
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Yawn what A BORING BUNCH OF >>..........
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.06.04 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: torqenem
Yawn what A BORING BUNCH OF >>..........
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
The alt-mobile has had more owners then an old Ford Fiesta on a dodgey mancunian housing estate.
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.06.04 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
You have a heart, Jebba?
WTF?
I'm sure Maud Dib is man enough to air his queries about EV to us rather than talk to cricey boy.
Josh if I remember right I said that in a convo with members from many corps including EV about a specific instance which I believe got cleared up almost as soon as it happened.
As far as I know I have only been in one convo with Crice and I got brought in there because Jade told me he was thinking about quiting cause he just wanted to mine in peace and was getting ganked by somebody. Anyway, I was in a convo with them for a little bit and then thankfully I CTD. Tbh I don't remember anything about it more than wishing I wasn't in it.
When our forums are able to be put back up from whatever has caused them to go down I will check that chat log again to double check my memory.
You would be surprised at the chat logs I have but sadly you will never see them because post chat logs is ghey. Of course it's also just as ghey to deny something that someone has a chat log post for.
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