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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:29:00 -
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Okies.
So we have had war declared on us. And for the first night, it was fantastic, loads of large engagements, a real feeling of a struggle. Hard fought and energy zapping.
Then last 2 days......
Nothing, no forces, no large scale battles. 18 PA bs last night sat in UMI KK waiting for the 28 hostiles next door to jump through, did they?? no they retreated back down to ECP. Why? god knows. We would of been forced to flee if they had jumped, but we were determined to at least give it a try.
So this war has been reduced to you camping a few key areas until we move you on, ganking lone pilots from the pa if they dont heed warnings in PA Chat and fall into your "traps". Whilst we actively hunt you down, and inflict far heavier losses. Like I thought you declared war on us?
All that talk, all that bravado, and it all comes down to the same old same old. Gank some loners, run n hide if a force anywher near the size of yours turns up. (they even run from smaller forces  )
Well we all know the numbers of losses, I just wander how long you can continue, or even how long most of the corps whos hearts are not really in it will want to continue, as we keep taking you down with such a bad ratio of deaths n kills for your forces.
If you want tto fight, you know where we are, although no doubt we will come down later and smash your "blockades" as usual. You guys have ths safe spot partying sorted right out   
(whilst I know its kinda imflamatory, its also a little tongue in cheek, just wanna hear the mighty military reasoning)
ps, maybe see youguys tonight? :P
Moved to corp forum - Orestes
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:35:00 -
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You're whining because we won't fight your fight? 
Here's a few quotes from the master himself:
To refrain from intercepting an enemy whose banners are in perfect order, to refrain from attacking an army drawn up in calm and confident array:--this is the art of studying circumstances.
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans; the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces; the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field; and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:38:00 -
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Nothing wrong with staying logged in and make your enemy sweat while you take a nap and watch a 'reel.
Convert Stations
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:38:00 -
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Mods:
You said you would monitor the PA/RKK war.
Here's a nice one for you to start with.
We conduct the war we want to conduct.
Flaming us in forums won't change our style of fighting.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:38:00 -
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Power To the forum warriors!!! this game should be played on the forums the number of people that ***** or "brag" on here. -----------------------
K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:40:00 -
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If you wanna fight blobwars I think there are a couple of takers for that down south.
You still see this as being two lines of cavalry lining up against each other and yelling charge?
Ask the polish how that worked out in 2nd world war (I hate to give a RL example but I think that one is pretty on top of things).
Think attrition warfare. Many small skirmishes, not a couple gigantic battles.
If the EVE engine supported it I would be thrilled to take part in the massive battles... but since it's about who sees things on his scanner and who doesn't, whose modules activate and whose doesn't... it's not very fun is it.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
um... not to throw a monkey into your wrenching, but the selfsame master you quote notes that to control is preferable to fighting, indeed the fighting will only occur if you have failed to control.
of course, succeeding would be horribly boring 
ps logistics > tactics

You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |

Hakera
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Posted - 2004.06.03 12:50:00 -
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I think this war is special because it has all the biggest forum *****s gathered together (on either side - but mostly the (JF/RKK/MLMM/EV vs PA) throwing mud at each other as they re-hash the same debate again & again & again & again & again & again in an effort to justify your actions (in a new therad every time).....
None of you are going to convince the other that they are wrong. You each have your veiwpoints and have decided to let your guns do the talking.
This type of war can never be won, but at least everyone should have fun.
I hope you guys hug after this is over, it seems the ghost that is the VA/NVA has come back to haunt Eve (or some people wont let it die...)
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 13:56:00 -
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War in any format we would of loved, you nothing more than abunch of annoying pirates right now. Whilst gratz on "all" your kills How yu ever expect to make any sort of change with these tactics is wayyyy beyond me.
;)
Cya tonight.
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CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |

MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:00:00 -
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Isn't General Discussion the wrong forum for this kind of smacktalk ?
Mai's Idealog |
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:07:00 -
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yeah posted it in wrong place. Move to Corp HQ pwease :)
And its not smack talk, its open discussion  
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CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |

Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:48:00 -
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Ed, Isn't it early to be drunk and in the wrong forum?
Wait..crap it's four in the afternoon there. Plenty late enough. Nevermind carry on and save some for InkZ.
Nothing but love to R-K and OOC.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.06.03 14:56:00 -
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for someone with the nickname aldof eddz it suprises me you care about war --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!! |

Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.06.03 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Ra on 03/06/2004 15:28:43 Well if u form 100+ ship blobs dont expect people to jump into them.
We also came in intercept the r-k forces who were in cod space but you guys head off intop branch, it would have been a pretty even match...
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:00:00 -
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Movin' to corp forum, hang on.
Join the IC! |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Why should we tell you our tactics and what we expect from it?
Let us fight our way, you fight you way, and we'll see who 'wins' in the end...
Unfortunatly, there is no winner, and no looser in this game. Take CA for example they have been getting attacked for months and months, taking loss after loss, inflicting them too of course. But yet they still stand... Look at SA Duke Drocklar came onto the forums and claimed that SA were dead... yet SA/CA stil have some huge impressive fleet battles... SA still stand...
Basically unless everyone in the alliances will always be in said alliance until they all fall out with each other and move on. Thats about the gist of it really tbh. All you can hope to achieve is obtain/maintain a better kill/loss ratio and hurting lone idiots with ganks is prolly the best way to do it. Sass Arcane Technologies |

Liz Bathory
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Liz Bathory on 03/06/2004 16:13:23 to actually win this war.. ganking anyone we can, and avoiding fleet battles is ideal...
I'd love to see 10 strong packs of frigs and interceptors roaming through venal, tenal and branch
simply put.. if we stay out of their grasp, and kill anything small enough to crush quick then it will turn into something a lot like what hapened to america in veitnam
sure, america had the power to flatten them a dozen times over, and a dozen times again
but they couldn't apply it.. so their morale was broken, and they gave up the fight
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:27:00 -
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"oh we fight the war on our terms" lark.
Your losing a lot of ships on your terms, i think he was asking why fight in such a manner, as it's clearly not benifiting you in kill/loss ratio.
Bore tactics? Real lame if so. Reverend Necrona |

Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:36:00 -
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oh I see...
Just to put a 10x opposite spin on your propaganda. Yesterday EV and crew numbering 28 pilots offered battle to 80, yes EIGHTY PA pilots sitting in HPA. Guess what, they didnt wanna fight. We got bored and went back to Tribute.
anyhow, as you determine who you fight, we determine who we fight. If you do not like it, oh well.
Enough with the whining and get it on in game. ______________________
What Aerick has been up to lately.. |

Shariona
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Okies.
So we have had war declared on us. And for the first night, it was fantastic, loads of large engagements, a real feeling of a struggle. Hard fought and energy zapping.
Then last 2 days......
Nothing, no forces, no large scale battles. 18 PA bs last night sat in UMI KK waiting for the 28 hostiles next door to jump through, did they?? no they retreated back down to ECP. Why? god knows. We would of been forced to flee if they had jumped, but we were determined to at least give it a try.
So this war has been reduced to you camping a few key areas until we move you on, ganking lone pilots from the pa if they dont heed warnings in PA Chat and fall into your "traps". Whilst we actively hunt you down, and inflict far heavier losses. Like I thought you declared war on us?
All that talk, all that bravado, and it all comes down to the same old same old. Gank some loners, run n hide if a force anywher near the size of yours turns up. (they even run from smaller forces  )
Well we all know the numbers of losses, I just wander how long you can continue, or even how long most of the corps whos hearts are not really in it will want to continue, as we keep taking you down with such a bad ratio of deaths n kills for your forces.
If you want tto fight, you know where we are, although no doubt we will come down later and smash your "blockades" as usual. You guys have ths safe spot partying sorted right out   
(whilst I know its kinda imflamatory, its also a little tongue in cheek, just wanna hear the mighty military reasoning)
ps, maybe see youguys tonight? :P
Moved to corp forum - Orestes
Yes War is fun  
Have fun If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him -- Sun Tzu
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Originally by: Joshua Calvert It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.
um... not to throw a monkey into your wrenching, but the selfsame master you quote notes that to control is preferable to fighting, indeed the fighting will only occur if you have failed to control.
of course, succeeding would be horribly boring 
ps logistics > tactics

You can't control 80 ships moving through space in Eve, BH, unless you have 80 ships too. Therein lies the boredom like you said.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Jebba IV
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn oh I see...
Just to put a 10x opposite spin on your propaganda. Yesterday EV and crew numbering 28 pilots offered battle to 80, yes EIGHTY PA pilots sitting in HPA. Guess what, they didnt wanna fight. We got bored and went back to Tribute.
anyhow, as you determine who you fight, we determine who we fight. If you do not like it, oh well.
Enough with the whining and get it on in game.
what he said
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.06.03 16:54:00 -
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to anyone who thought they could get a fight out of PA: LOL
to PA: LOL
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:17:00 -
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Yesterday Jericho Fraction went to venal and conquered the RONA KIA station.
RONA STATION TURNED INTO JERICHO JACUZZI
Now one wonders what the PA was doing while this was going on?
;)
JF Public Forum |

Gafton
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:24:00 -
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congratulations jade. You captured an unguarded cloning station in the middle of nowhere. I guess the pa is doomed. With such military might as that we have no choice but to surrender to the awesome powers of jericho.
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. |

Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
It's called tactics, RONA-KIA Warrior, but I wouldn't expect someone whose leader prefers to "control" rather than "fight" to know that.

Azkaban is there, Robeyone is not, I the person am fighting. Lol this is stupid, Josh I thought you were above that.
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Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Yesterday Jericho Fraction went to venal and conquered the RONA KIA station.
RONA STATION TURNED INTO JERICHO JACUZZI
Now one wonders what the PA was doing while this was going on?
;)
Wow maybe we should post everytime we capture a station too.
Way to go Jade Way to brag Honestly we are all very impressed
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gafton congratulations jade. You captured an unguarded cloning station in the middle of nowhere. I guess the pa is doomed. With such military might as that we have no choice but to surrender to the awesome powers of jericho.
As has been previously stated it is the policy of the coalition that surrender will not be discussed individually. If you want to surrender then please contact Notferr.
JF Public Forum |

Gafton
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:31:00 -
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i tried to last night jade but he was a little busy. I'll try again tonight. Unconditional surrender right? We install you as the new empress of venal and kiss your feet?
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. |

Robeyone
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Posted - 2004.06.03 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Gafton congratulations jade. You captured an unguarded cloning station in the middle of nowhere. I guess the pa is doomed. With such military might as that we have no choice but to surrender to the awesome powers of jericho.
As has been previously stated it is the policy of the coalition that surrender will not be discussed individually. If you want to surrender then please contact Notferr.
Lol now that's funny. TouchÚ Jade
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