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meowcat	Posted - 2004.06.03 12:47:00 - [1] Please say yes ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.06.03 12:53:00 - [2] does this refer to the fact that ever since upgrading my Nvidia drivers, billboards have lost their screens and several minnie stations look more scrapheapy than ever? if not, uh... fix that too pls You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
meowcat	Posted - 2004.06.03 12:57:00 - [3] no its the thing where about 60% of the stations in eve have flickery lines where polygons meet which makes them look like they have been produced by amateurs. (esp: gallente stations) there are loads of threads in the technical section on the subject ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
DeFood	Posted - 2004.06.03 13:10:00 - [4] 1. Open c:\program files\CCP\EVE\cache\prefs.ini 2. Add a line "advancedDevice=1" 3. Reload EVE and login 4. Press ESC to access the video options. 5. Set the zbuffer depth to 24bit. Note: A. Well, anything higher than 16bit will do. B. If you add the line to the end of the file, make sure to press enter to move the curser to the start of a new line or EVE might not register the line. C. The path assumes youve installed to the default location. D. I dont know if the small "a" in "advancedDevice needs to be small or not. But it works that way for me ;P
meowcat	Posted - 2004.06.03 13:37:00 - [5] Originally by: DeFood 1. Open c:\program files\CCP\EVE\cache\prefs.ini 2. Add a line "advancedDevice=1" 3. Reload EVE and login 4. Press ESC to access the video options. 5. Set the zbuffer depth to 24bit. Note: A. Well, anything higher than 16bit will do. B. If you add the line to the end of the file, make sure to press enter to move the curser to the start of a new line or EVE might not register the line. C. The path assumes youve installed to the default location. D. I dont know if the small "a" in "advancedDevice needs to be small or not. But it works that way for me ;P tried that weeks ago mate.... doesn't do an 'effing thing ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Aelius	Posted - 2004.06.03 13:44:00 - [6] I eard on some blog or something that in shiva those flikerings will be corrected. Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station
DeFood	Posted - 2004.06.03 13:47:00 - [7] Doesnt give you the zbuffer option at all? Or a 24bit z-buffer doesnt fix the flickering? I went from lots of flickering (im sure I could see right through the station sometimes jk ;p ) to, well its still not solid, but its much much better.
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.06.03 13:53:00 - [8] Originally by: meowcat Originally by: DeFood 1. Open c:\program files\CCP\EVE\cache\prefs.ini 2. Add a line "advancedDevice=1" 3. Reload EVE and login 4. Press ESC to access the video options. 5. Set the zbuffer depth to 24bit. Note: A. Well, anything higher than 16bit will do. B. If you add the line to the end of the file, make sure to press enter to move the curser to the start of a new line or EVE might not register the line. C. The path assumes youve installed to the default location. D. I dont know if the small "a" in "advancedDevice needs to be small or not. But it works that way for me ;P tried that weeks ago mate.... doesn't do an 'effing thing make sure you put it in exactly like above: advancedDevice=1 It doesn't fix all of it but it does fix most of it. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Quagmire	Posted - 2004.06.03 14:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Quagmire on 03/06/2004 14:05:16 Does anyone else get an effect where the chat/cargo/scanner windows, being set to reasonably transparent, appear to always be in warp? The warping graphics (animated) are shown in the windows whether you're warping or not. It doesn't detract from the gameplay, but it's a bit annoying to say the least. I think it disappeared for me for a little while after the last patch, but it's back again. -- Security Director, Draconis Industries.
meowcat	Posted - 2004.06.03 14:23:00 - [10] it does work, in that it presents the options, and allows me to use a 24bit z-thingy... ...but it doesn't work, in that it reduces the flickering by about the same proportion as my security status has increased.... ie: feck all ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
HostageTaker	Posted - 2004.06.03 14:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Quagmire Edited by: Quagmire on 03/06/2004 14:05:16 Does anyone else get an effect where the chat/cargo/scanner windows, being set to reasonably transparent, appear to always be in warp? The warping graphics (animated) are shown in the windows whether you're warping or not. It doesn't detract from the gameplay, but it's a bit annoying to say the least. I think it disappeared for me for a little while after the last patch, but it's back again. Yeah! I hate this thing! I recently got a new HD and had to reinstall EvE; 2 days ago it was all fine and that warp effect wasn't showing, now with fresh install I get that trippy warp effect showing Another thing, when I open map, and whatever windows I have open with transparency, the "blobs" now display a BOX around the "blob" graphic... And while I'm at it, the new icons for ships/drones and corpses are f00kin' terrible! (I shouda backed up my eve cache ) /rant off
DeFood	Posted - 2004.06.03 14:29:00 - [12] Bugger. In that case Id guess that perhaps one of these applies: 1. Your video card simply cannot do more than a 16 bit z-buffer? Which is unlikley unless its a couple of years old. 2. Your display drivers need updating. or 3. Some other setting is suppressing better zbuffer depths. Some video card drivers have a control panel display page that allows the zbuffer bitdepth to be set - overriding any game settings. Perhaps run dxdiag, and/or poke through your display settings to see theres not a 16bit zbuffer set there. That sucks mightilly. But I cant see CCP being able to fix your problem as, if Shiva "fixes" the issue all theyll do is make the advancedDevice zbuffer option default to 24 - which doesnt help you at all
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.06.03 14:46:00 - [13] its not that bad is it ? --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
meowcat	Posted - 2004.06.03 14:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Deadflip2 its not that bad is it ? it is unfortunately very bad, possibly because I play at 1600x1200 graphically my system is reasonably up to date... i have an ati 9700 pro a 22" CRT monster monitor it does get better if i reduce the resolution, but they i can play because i like to have lots of windows open, and i cant see where i'm going below 1600x1200 ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Marcennis	Posted - 2004.06.03 14:53:00 - [15] It's pretty bad. GF4 TI4600 128MB here, you can't tell me that's "old" for the flicker; apparently the new NVidia drivers also break the billboards and semi-transparent stations. That was fixed by rolling back drivers, still waiting for CCP to catch up to current. I have also read somewhere devbloggish that Shiva is supposed to fix the flicker. I think it even said the problem was identified. Oh well, here's for waiting. --- Mining & Transport - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
Tarm	Posted - 2004.06.03 15:13:00 - [16] Meowcat: I also have a 9700 pro and, using the 4.5 catalyst, I no longer have the flickering stations. I'm not at home at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it was fixed with those drivers (or else I've gotten used to it!). -------------------
Fneb	Posted - 2004.06.03 15:27:00 - [17] I've seen that effect in a few stations too. It can be caused when the 3D model has more than one polygon occupying the same space. At least that has been my experience from modeling for other games. Hopefully, the fix in this case is just to revist the models for the affected stations, modify the polys and re-export.
MrBinary	Posted - 2004.06.03 15:45:00 - [18] Greetings, I set mine to 32bit with 8bit stencil... Works beautifully! Thanks a bunch! Kind regards, MrBinary "[ 2004.05.20 20:11:42 ] Hodal Xibur > Die MrBinary"
Stue	Posted - 2004.06.03 15:45:00 - [19] As were already talking about it: Anything i can do against my screen randomly turning black (or grey) so i have to restart EVE? (playing in window mode)
Frankinator	Posted - 2004.06.03 16:14:00 - [20] Does anybody have a clue yet on how to get rid of everybody being bald all the time when using ATI mobility cards? My screenshots always make people laugh.
Styrmir	Posted - 2004.06.03 17:37:00 - [21] Originally by: Quagmire Edited by: Quagmire on 03/06/2004 14:05:16 Does anyone else get an effect where the chat/cargo/scanner windows, being set to reasonably transparent, appear to always be in warp? The warping graphics (animated) are shown in the windows whether you're warping or not. It doesn't detract from the gameplay, but it's a bit annoying to say the least. I think it disappeared for me for a little while after the last patch, but it's back again. I just got that a couple of days ago after switching from my usual windowed mode to full screen mode to take a screenie. I assumed it was just temporary but it came back next time I logged in. Founder and Manager of The Misneden Shuttle Museum
Mr nStuff	Posted - 2004.06.03 17:56:00 - [22] fix sun occlusion while your at it. it's like wearing a 5 year old pair of sneakers. Do you really want everybody to think you're poor? CCP.. Do you really want everybody to think you suck? Fix this little stuff too! Ok thanks. P.S. Your all a bunch of whiners.. No just kidding. 5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers.. Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer. My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 19. September 2004
SwitchBl4d3	Posted - 2004.06.03 18:57:00 - [23] i upgraded to latest nVidia drivers, then when i tried to run 2 accounts it started wigging out like a nun with a d1ld0. I promptly changed back......... fixup "Teh lord of Nonni"
Mr nStuff	Posted - 2004.06.03 18:58:00 - [24] it's tuff to blame the latest nVidia driver issues on EVE when it has problems with so many other games as well.
DeFood	Posted - 2004.06.03 19:16:00 - [25] Edited by: DeFood on 03/06/2004 19:18:26 Ironically, I run EVE at 1600x1200 on a 20" flatpanel, ATi 9700 Raedon PRO, Catalyst 4.3, 4.4 and 4.5 drivers. On Win2K. None of the drivers fixed the problem, but changing the zbuffer did for me. (EDIT: When I first installed EVE I was using 4.3, then upgraded to 4.4 and then 4.5 trying to fix the zbuffer glitching)
Xelios	Posted - 2004.06.03 20:00:00 - [26] I've tried all the Z-Buffer settings and while the higher ones do help it's still damn annoying, especially on the Chaos station.

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